mr_bishiuk
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chubigans said:
I don't think Pr0cs was talking about this thread in particular more GAF in general at all times, and it is very much a sony-centric forum
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NPD Sales Results for September 2009
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I don't think Pr0cs was talking about this thread in particular more GAF in general at all times, and it is very much a sony-centric forum
swanlee597
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I think the relevance of these sales threads are quickly coming to a close. The basics are no matter what happens from here on out the PS3 will not be considered a universal success given the sales of previous Sony consoles and the 360 will not be considered a failure given it has already surpassed Xbox sales.
Anything else derived from this gen is just a bunch of fanboys splitting hairs trumping up their console of choice.
Anything else derived from this gen is just a bunch of fanboys splitting hairs trumping up their console of choice.
gregor7777
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chubigans said:
Wait, which part do you think is inaccurate? :lol
Oh. Well then that's his opinion.
Well, it's pretty much fact. There are far more "hardcore" Sony fans here then there are Nintendo or MS fans.
antiloop said:
:lol
npd sales threads have a great deal in common with pmt:
once a month and painfully annoying..
as far as i am concerned they have no place in real gaming - especially since all the consoles are now so well established that sales no longer matter (unless you are a fanboy - don't you hate that word?)
once a month and painfully annoying..
as far as i am concerned they have no place in real gaming - especially since all the consoles are now so well established that sales no longer matter (unless you are a fanboy - don't you hate that word?)
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It's done alright. Undercover came out in November 08 and didn't make it to the Top 20:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3882/npd_behind_the_numbers_november_.php?page=5
So it's likely done as good or better, and has more time going into the Holiday period.
Rlan said:So did you end up having a quiet weekend jvm, or constantly frustrated that you couldn't push out your Analysis?
Thinking about it, I'm surprised Need For Speed Shift didn't do better on PS3. It's the only game in town for the year and it's a while until GT5. Forza's looming release would have kept Shift at bay.
September 2008 by Comparison:
Beatles did less than Rock Band 2 and with more time, but they likely made more based entirely on the expensive box set.
Madden's doing better on Xbox 360 and PS3 this year, Madden PS2 dropped off entirely but Madden PS3 gained nearly 100K more players.
Lostconfused said:
It's done alright. Undercover came out in November 08 and didn't make it to the Top 20:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3882/npd_behind_the_numbers_november_.php?page=5
So it's likely done as good or better, and has more time going into the Holiday period.
gregor7777
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jett said:
It really is surprising that some people don't see it. More so as you and Chubigans tend to post in Sony topics.
elrechazado
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Shurs said:
Install base hasn't be relevant for years now. The 360 and wii managed to move hundreds of thousands of games each month for multiple titles when they had the install base that the PS3 has now. If install base really mattered as much as people think it does, 360 and wii games would be selling in the millions each month and ps3 would never chart at all.
Pureauthor
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anh_duong said:
The only people who would say something like this are the unfonformed. So I'd recommend you stop embarrassing yourself.
Lostconfused
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Right but EA was willing to make some drastic changes after undercover. So there is an improvement here, I am just wondering if EA is satisfied with that or how will they move forward with the NFS series.Rlan said:
Really? I never noticed it either.gregor7777 said:
TheGreatDave
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Beatles sold more than RB2 total, but Beatles on 360 sold less than Rock Band 2 on 360 in it's first month, IIRC.
pr0cs said:
The bolded one can be demonstrated to be incorrect. This is the last Hardware Bias poll thread (that I'm aware of): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162556 It's over two years old, but it's more authoritative on the tastes of GAF than seat-of-the-pants guesses in this NPD thread. In summary, the aggregate total of voters for each manufacturer:pr0cs said:
Sony: 372 voters
Microsoft: 393 voters
Nintendo: 493 voters
iirc:Rlan said:
September - 360 software and hardware only (no bundles)
October - PS3 software and PS3/360 bundles
December - Wii software and bundles
RB2 was and still is (no Australian version lol) an epic disaster in terms of how they handled it.
But you are technically correct that RB2 360 outsold Beatles 360 in September.
mr_bishiuk
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gregor7777 said:
I know, you'd have to be pretty blind to think otherwise imo.
anh_duong said:
No offense, but these are always far and away the most embarrassing posts in the NPD threads. The idea that it is improper to discuss the business side of a multi-billion dollar industry is very juvenile. You are essentially arguing that "real gamers" are uninformed dopes who should simply be grateful that sweet games show up at the mall once in a while.
Plus, I hate to break it to you, but many of the "fanboys" arguing in here are people like me, who own multiple consoles and mostly argue for entertainment value.
I think it's "HD home console" centric. Since we're shooting from the hip here.
As another poster just said, I think it's clearly not PC, Wii, PSP, iPhone or DS centric. That leaves PS3 and 360 to fight over the throne, and frankly, they share so many games that I don't think it really matters.
It's HD home console centric. If it were Sony centric, I think we'd see a good deal more PSP threads, but I rarely see any discussion of it outside major launches like the PSPGo.
As another poster just said, I think it's clearly not PC, Wii, PSP, iPhone or DS centric. That leaves PS3 and 360 to fight over the throne, and frankly, they share so many games that I don't think it really matters.
It's HD home console centric. If it were Sony centric, I think we'd see a good deal more PSP threads, but I rarely see any discussion of it outside major launches like the PSPGo.
mr_bishiuk
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Evlar said:
Well the Sony voters are by far the most vocal especially at getting involved in other systems threads.
I think a more telling poll was the one for GTA IV where every mod voted that they were buying the game on PS3 rather than 360 despite the promised DLC on the former. Also simple things give it away like being able to say Xbot and M$ while abbreviating Sony Defence Force is bannable and so on.
Lostconfused said:
Yeah. Considering Shift is a new engine and new team it probably cost more to develop, but it was a necessary move after the shit Undercover was doing - lagging behind in almost every way.
The businessmen in charge who crave metacritic scores will most likely be satisfied - Undercover sits at 64 while Shift sits at 83. Even if it cost them more and makes them less now, in the long term it'll hold on far better.
I would like to see how well NFS Nitro goes after the crash of Spyborgs and Dead Space Extraction.
gregor7777
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Evlar said:
Do you know how many new members this forum has taken on since then?
Remember we used to have a thread every time they'd let in new members?
Safe Bet said:
I don't see anyone saying "biased".
But I'd certainly say there are far more "Sony fans" here than any other group. Maybe even combined.
poppabk
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I am definitely in the same boat. This will be the first year that I don't buy a music/rhythm game as I have several already, and with Ghost Squad, HOTD:Overkill and HOTD2/3 in my collection, I am just not feeling the need to get another lightgun game anytime soon, no matter how good it is. I did pick up the original Dead Space for PC though just recently, so the one thing I can see that will get me interested in DS:E is if I get interested in the universe/characters they created in the original game.EDarkness said:
lowrider007
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WrikaWrek said:
RARRRRRRR!!!!!!!
elrechazado
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Shurs said:
And it's notable for being an exception, which has a very good explanation.
Oh geez, come on people. We're pushing these conclusions well past the point that available empirical data supports.
I mean, I feel uncomfortable enough concluding that this isn't a PC/Wii/DS/PSP forum, even though that should be obvious and I don't see anyone arguing otherwise.
I mean, I feel uncomfortable enough concluding that this isn't a PC/Wii/DS/PSP forum, even though that should be obvious and I don't see anyone arguing otherwise.
gregor7777 said:
I'd almost say that the Sony fans just seem to be more concentrated than the 360 fans. You tend to see the same herd of PS3 fans move into every PS3-exclusive thread, almost to annoying levels. I don't really see the same thing w/ 360 threads; the 360 userbase on GAF appears to be more diffuse in their game playing habits. At least, thats my BS observation.
PistolGrip
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Not if you count worldwidepswii60 said:
Japan and Europe can easily pick up the slack..