The Sun is static in this game. The only time it changes is when you change it in debug mode.
Series s has far more concessions than just rendering at 720p. They are listed in the op of this very thread.
Is criticizing the hardware the same as bashing hardware owners?
Criticizing the performance of a console is now bashing it?
can't wait to see the new boat people
Yes, but that is when the lighting is recalculated. Otherwise, the lighting is static while you are driving around just like in spiderman which does not switch between different time of day.
UE5 was developed and being refined by people from both industries. My point is that there is no delineation between a graphics engineer in gaming and a graphics engineer in film. They both have skillsets that can be used interchangeably. Getting more graphics engineers from film will be a positive contributing factor to the tech evolution. Back in the day, game developers would never use film software engineers for their game development for fear that they didn't know enough to be successful.
Im not saying 1080p will look like 4K. (especially to nerds)
There is a bit of glass half empty vs half full argument. For all the talk of how much 'weaker' the XSS is there is something quite remarkable that a console that's $300 is pushing these graphics. The top end last generation consoles can't run this demo AT ALL.
definitely not happening. at 30? yea. def not 60. this demo is incredibly detailed
Insomniac are able to basically display the same fidelity at 60 albeit at a lower resolution (although this is hardly a big deal at a normal viewing distance).
Fidelity matches CG quality from the same period of time as the Matrix trilogy, such as Pixar's Monsters Inc.
When we start looking at price to performance, the series s does not fare well since it offers 1/4 the performance more than half the price. Pretty much every game that runs at native 4k on the XSX runs at 1080p on the Series s with lower quality settings. Thats 1/4th the resolution. Guardians, Halo Infinite, Forza Motorsport. Even in those rare occasions when we get 1440p vs 4k versions, the settings are dialed down.
That's another topic of discussion. The tflops difference suggests that it should give 1/3rd the performance, and yet how many times have we seen the xss version top out at 1080p while the xsx version is native 4k? That's 1/4th the performance, not 1/3rd. It's pretty much standard at this point. So if we go by price per performance, it's not up to par. If we go by tflops per dollar, the performance is even worse.
Yeah it tops out at 1.55 Ghz. It also has only 228 GBps of VRAM compared to 560 GBps of XSX RAM. To me, the fact that it isnt even scaling down 1:1 when you reduce the resolution 4x means there is something in the console thats holding back its true potential. Otherwise, there would be no need for adjusting graphics settings and a simple resolution cut would do.
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welcome to PC building 101. There is a certain base cost for a complete system. $300 for 8 core Ryzen and a NVMe drive plus the memory and GPU is a good deal.
I'm not aware of a more powerful system that costs less or even the same. It's pretty obvious the XSS offers excellent performance for the price. Plenty of actual customers seem pretty satisfied.@
If you search around YT there are people playing 3rd party games from a Switch connected to their TV. Thus, there are users that don't care about playing at max settings as long as the games are feature complete and they are getting the full gameplay/story experience.
You are not one those people, which is completely fine. People should be able to discuss anything they want, It is a discussion board after all. Expect people with opposing views to discuss right back with you though.
My take from trying this demo - tried on the PS5 - and comparing it to the UE5 early access demo - I've got on PC - and keeping in mind the visuals and omission of features used by the Coalition across their prototyping on X and S showcase, and keeping in mind that the UE5 early access wasn't done on Series S, my observation is that the Series S has now had two outings with the X where neither demo have stressed nanite and/or used heaving kit bashing situations with nanite, as seen in this demo by the abundance of very large single primitives in triangle debug mode - suggesting that the Series S is either holding feature use back because it favours use of h/w geometry pipelines, which are 2/3rds less efficient than nanite (according to Epic) and oddly, even if using mesh shading in this demo in place of nanite for those large triangle parts - so the X should have a performance advantage there, because it has more CUs, weirdly the X isn't performing as well or better than the PS5 judging by DF videos, which makes one wonder, why not? is that the cross development with Series S holding it back or an actual real world performance advantage of the PS5?
XSS has 32 ROPs compared to PS5/XSX' 64 ROPs, with the clock speed difference on top of that (1565 MHz vs 1825/2230 MHz) the gap in pixel fillrate is quite substantial.
Think this is untrue, it's very variable but at 30fps more often than not.
UE5 is developed by Epic, like the previous UE versions. They make games and game engines, not movies, even if now UE is starting to be used for movies and commercials.
Come on, let's not be daft.
Exactly, finally reaching the point for a console to match, in realtime, the fidelity of CG from as recent as 16 -17 years ago is a tremendous feat.
Perhaps you should go watch a movie instead. Then you don't have to worry about things like "Framerate" or "Playabilitiy" and you can just gawk at pretty graphics.
These people are praising Halo:Infinite for its looks.
Perhaps you should go eat a dick.
Yea you know what would make the game even better? Playing it at 60 FPS instead.
Better graphics are not a bigger improvement over improved input delay and the improved clarity you get from requiring less motion blur. Every single action game that is comparable in its genre (DMC,Bayonetta,MG:R,Nier:A) that runs at 60 fps feels better to play than Astral Chain.
But I believe what's really tanking the performance is Lumen and not Nanite. So it's not the details that are hard on performance but the lighting. If Insomniac will do baked lighting then they can save a lot of performance cycle.
That's ps4. If spider-man 2 is ps5 only, then we can expect this kind of graphical leap.
