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Oculus Rift Launch Thread: Ballpark 2016

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Enordash

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And no statement yet. Absurd launch.

Went ahead and preordered a Vive just in case. I'll still cross my fingers and hope the Rift eventually comes. If it gets here and is everything I want, I'll cancel the other preorder. Covering my bases for now. Wish I would have done it sooner.
 
Went ahead and preordered a Vive just in case. I'll still cross my fingers and hope the Rift eventually comes. If it gets here and is everything I want, I'll cancel the other preorder. Covering my bases for now. Wish I would have done it sooner.

I'm certainly glad I preordered both, but I was really looking forward to playing with my Rift this weekend. I never would have predicted such a terrible launch for Oculus.
 

Kevin

Member
I compiled a list of every video review I could find of the CV1 on Youtube for those interested:

Tested: https://youtu.be/ZC2VIE0hkko

IGN: https://youtu.be/tm_IDqHskcs

Verge: https://youtu.be/9bfBV-x0ftM

GameSpot: https://youtu.be/cKZGKN3Z6V8

Engadget: https://youtu.be/dc2RcX0OHsw

DigitalFoundry: https://youtu.be/5RA0Ri1UW1A

Wired: https://youtu.be/cOlq_6x61kw

TechCrunch: https://youtu.be/fwtHedp0gn4

Polygon: https://youtu.be/P_QyfkAC100

Mashable: https://youtu.be/7lFhxonLv9g

AngryJoe: https://youtu.be/87IJU1AtcAw

iFixit (taking apart the CV1): https://youtu.be/zfZx_jthHM4
 
Went ahead and preordered a Vive just in case. I'll still cross my fingers and hope the Rift eventually comes. If it gets here and is everything I want, I'll cancel the other preorder. Covering my bases for now. Wish I would have done it sooner.

Did the same lol. I really want to play the Oculus exclusives though :[
 

Enordash

Member
Did the same lol. I really want to play the Oculus exclusives though :[

I'm right there with you. Most of the games I'm dying to play are exclusive to Oculus. I also think that the Rift looks generally more sleek and stylish. I've also been following them forever (had a DK1 back when). I enjoyed the fact that they seemed generally stoked about VR and talked to people plainly (where did this go?). The Vive wouldn't ship until May so there's plenty of time. This will also allow me to get some hands on with the Rift while scoping out comparisons online. This may be just enough time to see which headset starts to pull ahead as well.

Edit: Thanks for the review compilation, Kevin.
 

BrettWeir

Member
Went ahead and preordered a Vive just in case. I'll still cross my fingers and hope the Rift eventually comes. If it gets here and is everything I want, I'll cancel the other preorder. Covering my bases for now. Wish I would have done it sooner.

I said "screw it". Not going to support a company that does business like this. I just moved someone up in the shipment line.

There's just too many things in the air for me to even think about supporting Oculus by purchasing their product.

I'm really hoping you guys get your Rifts sooner than later!!
 
Something weird must definitely be going on, right? The complete lack of comment from them coupled with the absurdly slow trickle of orders being shipped is definitely weird.
 

Caleb187

Member
I wasn't able to comfortably wear my glasses in the cv1, but interestingly I don't need them. I have a very small prescription, only really need glasses for driving and reading distant screens, but the cv1 lenses display a razor sharp image as opposed to my dk1 that appeared fuzzy without my glasses. It's like the cv1 lenses have my prescription built in. I love this, and hope it stays in their future iterations of the optics.
 
Seems most people who have their Rifts now and Technolust think, that Technolust should be a release game for everyone else (not just KS backers). People say they are actually "blown away" by that game.

Btw. Anyone knows which project changed to SDK 1.3? I would love to play a new version of the New Retro Arcade.
 
I compiled a list of every video review I could find of the CV1 on Youtube for those interested:

Tested: https://youtu.be/ZC2VIE0hkko

IGN: https://youtu.be/tm_IDqHskcs

Verge: https://youtu.be/9bfBV-x0ftM

GameSpot: https://youtu.be/cKZGKN3Z6V8

Engadget: https://youtu.be/dc2RcX0OHsw

DigitalFoundry: https://youtu.be/5RA0Ri1UW1A

Wired: https://youtu.be/cOlq_6x61kw

TechCrunch: https://youtu.be/fwtHedp0gn4

Polygon: https://youtu.be/P_QyfkAC100

Mashable: https://youtu.be/7lFhxonLv9g

AngryJoe: https://youtu.be/87IJU1AtcAw

iFixit (taking apart the CV1): https://youtu.be/zfZx_jthHM4


Good job! Thanks!
 

AwesomeMeat

PossumMeat
sigh... I really don't want to have to switch back to the Vive but I'm getting ready to. The original reason I went away from them was the fact that I don't even know how long they will even be a functional company after the rough few years they've had.

Now, Oculus has destroyed my confidence.
 
sigh... I really don't want to have to switch back to the Vive but I'm getting ready to. The original reason I went away from them was the fact that I don't even know how long they will even be a functional company after the rough few years they've had.

Now, Oculus has destroyed my confidence.

It's remarkable how much good will Oculus is destroying on a daily basis.
 

jack....

Member
It's remarkable how much good will Oculus is destroying on a daily basis.

I really is. It is a great product but they really need to get their shit together.

I'm sure people would be a little more understanding about the delays if they would just give some information about what's going on.
 

RotBot

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I wasn't able to comfortably wear my glasses in the cv1, but interestingly I don't need them. I have a very small prescription, only really need glasses for driving and reading distant screens, but the cv1 lenses display a razor sharp image as opposed to my dk1 that appeared fuzzy without my glasses. It's like the cv1 lenses have my prescription built in. I love this, and hope it stays in their future iterations of the optics.

DK1 was focused at infinity. DK2 was focused around ~1.3 meters in front of you. CV1 probably has the same focus, so slightly nearsighted people should be able to use it without glasses. For future iterations, it would be best to let you adjust focus like the Gear VR, so people with any prescription can play without glasses. Even better if it's adjusted per eye.
 

Evo X

Member
Damn. People are already getting shipment notifications in the Vive thread 5 days before of release date.

While we are all sitting here wondering wtf is going on 5 days after launch date.
 

charpunk

Member
I really is. It is a great product but they really need to get their shit together.

I'm sure people would be a little more understanding about the delays if they would just give some information about what's going on.

I've just accepted the fact that it's probably going to be a few weeks before I get mine at this point. No sense getting upset about a situation that clearly is not going to improve anytime soon. I doubt they will make any official statement.

Really interested to know what happened to cause this giant screwup though.
 
I've just accepted the fact that it's probably going to be a few weeks before I get mine at this point. No sense getting upset about a situation that clearly is not going to improve anytime soon. I doubt they will make any official statement.

Really interested to know what happened to cause this giant screwup though.

Its not shipping problems, but seems to be problems with the payment method.
 

Coverly

Member
just got it and finally installed it.

omg

OMG!

Coming from the original ks unit the upgrade is tremendous. I'm downloading a bunch of games right now I'm going to fry's later to pick up some quick usb and hdmi extensions to comfortably move around. It looks like the camera can see most of the room, surprised at the range.

Once the setup was done and the small vr samples started i was seriously impressed. I was looking sideways when the alien came on so i jumped a bit back when i saw him right in front of me. The dinosaur going over you was fun too.

Since it's barely here I'm going to initially say that i didn't see anything wrong with the fov in terms of standing out and ruining the experience. fov is fine so far. The original unit had a very prominent sde but in this one if you didn't tell me sde existed i wouldn't have known it's there.

anyways, extremely happy but worried about my puny c drive taking a beating right now.
 

AwesomeMeat

PossumMeat
Well... good luck guys! I've put in the request to cancel my order. I'm very disappointed.

I can't be bothered to sell it on ebay and deal with fake accounts bidding, etc.

I put in my Vive pre-order and will just wait an extra month for it. I hope you guys get your Rifts soon and I hope you have a blast with them! I have no doubt they will be great when they arrive. Off to the other OT for me I guess.

: (
 

TheRed

Member
just got it and finally installed it.

omg

OMG!

Coming from the original ks unit the upgrade is tremendous. I'm downloading a bunch of games right now I'm going to fry's later to pick up some quick usb and hdmi extensions to comfortably move around. It looks like the camera can see most of the room, surprised at the range.

Once the setup was done and the small vr samples started i was seriously impressed. I was looking sideways when the alien came on so i jumped a bit back when i saw him right in front of me. The dinosaur going over you was fun too.

Since it's barely here I'm going to initially say that i didn't see anything wrong with the fov in terms of standing out and ruining the experience. fov is fine so far. The original unit had a very prominent sde but in this one if you didn't tell me sde existed i wouldn't have known it's there.

anyways, extremely happy but worried about my puny c drive taking a beating right now.

It sucks that this can't be what the thread is about, I bet the Vive launch thread will be so much more positive. What a terrible launch.
 

jack....

Member
It sucks that this can't be what the thread is about, I bet the Vive launch thread will be so much more positive. What a terrible launch.

Totally. It's a bummer because it is a great piece of hardware and I think people would be really happy with it if they could get their hands on it.
 

Riptwo

Member
I've asked this before in the thread, but I have to ask again: does anyone else's CV1 look kind of like there's a fingerprint on the inside of one of the lenses, or am I just really lucky? It could just be unfortunate OLED mura, but I'm not sure. Part of me wants to take this thing apart and investigate, but I *know* that'll lead to dust being trapped on the screen, which is even worse.
 

nakedeyes

Banned
Welp! I just got mine! Super excited to check it out.. Will come back later with impressions!

Maybe I missed something here, but I am a little confused why people are still so super bent. I just got a KS unit, so I don't think I went through the usual order process, but I thought it was just like getting a new iphone where it gives you a rough window when you order and you just kind of have a spot in line from when you ordered it.

I mean, are people upset they don't have shipping confirmations because they expected the shipping confirmations by now, or because they were explicitly told they would ship on or before April 1. I think its an important distinction, and I just am curious.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
Welp! I just got mine! Super excited to check it out.. Will come back later with impressions!

Maybe I missed something here, but I am a little confused why people are still so super bent. I just got a KS unit, so I don't think I went through the usual order process, but I thought it was just like getting a new iphone where it gives you a rough window when you order and you just kind of have a spot in line from when you ordered it.

I mean, are people upset they don't have shipping confirmations because they expected the shipping confirmations by now, or because they were explicitly told they would ship on or before April 1. I think its an important distinction, and I just am curious.

When an iPhone releases it is available. The problem here is this wasn't a release, this was a small early shipment; big difference.

There has also been zero worthwhile communication and Palmer is being the usual tool he is with his cryptic ballpark "answers".

It feels like this company is being ran by a bunch of children who have no business experience and are far too green to be launching a product.
 

nakedeyes

Banned
When an iPhone releases it is available. The problem here is this wasn't a release, this was a small early shipment; big difference.

There has also been zero worthwhile communication and Palmer is being the usual tool he is with his cryptic ballpark "answers".

It feels like this company is being ran by a bunch of children who have no business experience and are far too green to be launching a product.

What do you mean? When an iphone releases, it is almost always sold out for 4-6 weeks and you are kind of put in a queue.. Everyone gets up at 1am to try and be the first in the queue. I have accidentally gotten up at 5 am and had to wait 6 weeks for mine.

There is usually a set qnty where you can line up at an Apple Store as well for days before hand and hope to get one. But this is kind of a unique to Apple thing, and not a typical part of most online retail launches.

The rest of your response was just name calling and being upset at the company. I guess it still seems to me that people are just upset because they EXPECTED something by now, not because they were promised something by now. Which is still upsetting, but its kind of surprising to see the extent that people are upset. We knew it would be a limited quantity thing all along..

Edit: As much as we want this thing to just show up in Best Buys, and as much as Palmer says that is the ultimate plan. I don't think there were any broken promises about having X qnty of them in Y amount of stores by a particular date.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Don't think I've ever seen a big platform release so terribly other than maybe Blackberry.

To make matters worse, while it seems some units trickle out to the US, Oculus has cemented itself as a "doesn't give a shit about the rest of the world" company by completely ignoring everywhere else despite charging insane shipping prices. This is also why you don't partner with a software company over a hardware one for your hardware product's launch.

Vive feels like a product from 2017 and its out next week.
 
What do you mean? When an iphone releases, it is almost always sold out for 4-6 weeks and you are kind of put in a queue.. Everyone gets up at 1am to try and be the first in the queue. I have accidentally gotten up at 5 am and had to wait 6 weeks for mine.

There is usually a set qnty where you can line up at an Apple Store as well for days before hand and hope to get one. But this is kind of a unique to Apple thing, and not a typical part of most online retail launches.

The rest of your response was just name calling and being upset at the company. I guess it still seems to me that people are just upset because they EXPECTED something by now, not because they were promised something by now. Which is still upsetting, but its kind of surprising to see the extent that people are upset. We knew it would be a limited quantity thing all along..

Edit: As much as we want this thing to just show up in Best Buys, and as much as Palmer says that is the ultimate plan. I don't think there were any broken promises about having X qnty of them in Y amount of stores by a particular date.

Yes, we knew it would be limited but I don't think anyone expected it to be THIS limited. The delivery estimates should have been made based on available stock and the rate that they will be manufactured going forward, but that doesn't seem to have been the case at all.

The first headset came off the line in October, giving them almost 6 months to produce a stock of units to be available for launch. Oculus then made the decision to provide a free headset to the KS backers, knowing it would need to come from available stock. Why would they make the decision to send out these free headsets if they didn't even have the available stock to fulfill all of those for the launch date, not even including what pre-orders were made?

Something happened, things aren't going as originally planned. If this is how they envisioned it, then it was a poor decision to market the release date as March 28th if they knew beforehand that actual pre-orders were going to be delayed due to their decision of sending out the free kits, especially when there's no statement provided to customers.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
What do you mean? When an iphone releases, it is almost always sold out for 4-6 weeks and you are kind of put in a queue.. Everyone gets up at 1am to try and be the first in the queue. I have accidentally gotten up at 5 am and had to wait 6 weeks for mine.

There is usually a set qnty where you can line up at an Apple Store as well for days before hand and hope to get one. But this is kind of a unique to Apple thing, and not a typical part of most online retail launches.

The rest of your response was just name calling and being upset at the company. I guess it still seems to me that people are just upset because they EXPECTED something by now, not because they were promised something by now. Which is still upsetting, but its kind of surprising to see the extent that people are upset. We knew it would be a limited quantity thing all along..

Edit: As much as we want this thing to just show up in Best Buys, and as much as Palmer says that is the ultimate plan. I don't think there were any broken promises about having X qnty of them in Y amount of stores by a particular date.

But those first in line actually get a phone. I can't remember a time I wasn't able to get an iPhone on release day. Now here I am placing my order within minutes of go live for a rift and nothing to show for it.

With iPhones there are shitloads out in the wild for the public on release. Here we have maybe 2,000 units to mostly reviewers and those who already had their taste of VR. Literally no wow factor from those who held out for consumer release.

Oculus needs to stop calling it a release. They likely won't beat HTC to market at this point.
 

lmimmfn

Member
Welp! I just got mine! Super excited to check it out.. Will come back later with impressions!

Maybe I missed something here, but I am a little confused why people are still so super bent. I just got a KS unit, so I don't think I went through the usual order process, but I thought it was just like getting a new iphone where it gives you a rough window when you order and you just kind of have a spot in line from when you ordered it.

I mean, are people upset they don't have shipping confirmations because they expected the shipping confirmations by now, or because they were explicitly told they would ship on or before April 1. I think its an important distinction, and I just am curious.
I'm a KS backer in Europe, we were told KS units were the first to ship, so back in January, launch date is March 28th, I'd expect delivery worst case scenario on Monday 4th April and a shipping email 28th March. I've had nothing progress since January. Even if I get a shipping email next week it'll be mid April before I receive anything but as it currently stands it could be May/June. For me like you it's free and I appreciate that, but FFS some info/indication of what's going on would be good.

I did the KS, bought DK2 as soon as the ordering site would work and every single shipment from Oculus has been the same horrendous crap of checking reddit to see if there are movements and not having a clue when you would receive your goods. It's like ordering a PC due September 28th, date arrives, you hear nothing, company doesn't communicate anything and you don't know if you'll get it before year end. If it was a PC ID scrap the order and order off a more deserving company.

The difference between KS, DK2 and this is they're owned by FB and should show a bit of professionalism and have a proper launch. It's obvious now they set the date as a soft launch to beat Valve/HTC to the punch on launch.

It's more a case of same old crap when it comes to expecting a new Rift and not knowing when the hell you'll even receive it. People have lives, if shipping to a private address you make plans so someone is there, can't do that in this case.

I'm sure the hype has made it worse, but Vive is so much more "normal", people receiving shipment info before the launch, info on their shipment info from the website, when to expect shipment, I.e. Vive is a proper launch.

I'm selling my DK2 tomorrow, expected to have CV1 soon after, I made plans but why bother
 

BrettWeir

Member
What do you mean? When an iphone releases, it is almost always sold out for 4-6 weeks and you are kind of put in a queue.. Everyone gets up at 1am to try and be the first in the queue. I have accidentally gotten up at 5 am and had to wait 6 weeks for mine.

There is usually a set qnty where you can line up at an Apple Store as well for days before hand and hope to get one. But this is kind of a unique to Apple thing, and not a typical part of most online retail launches.

The rest of your response was just name calling and being upset at the company. I guess it still seems to me that people are just upset because they EXPECTED something by now, not because they were promised something by now. Which is still upsetting, but its kind of surprising to see the extent that people are upset. We knew it would be a limited quantity thing all along..

Edit: As much as we want this thing to just show up in Best Buys, and as much as Palmer says that is the ultimate plan. I don't think there were any broken promises about having X qnty of them in Y amount of stores by a particular date.

I think it's definitely more of the fact that there has been absolutely no communication in the matter. They took preorders in January and had over 3 months to get the message out to the masses what the landscape would look like. Set expectations accordingly. They even said that their preorders exceeded any expectations they could imagine. If they couldn't meet production timeframes, they should have communicated that. Yes, people would still be upset, but nothing to the point it is at now.

When people placed their orders, they were given an estimated ship date, which for thousands of people was "March 28th". Yes, an estimate is not a guarantee. We get that. But as paying customers (well, ready to pay customers) sat by, they have only witnessed media outlets and KS backers receive theirs over the first few days after the "launch". Even KS backers were confused as to when they would get theirs. I'm incredibly grateful for what KS backers did, and happy they are getting free Rifts, but I think it was a grave error to prioritize them over paying customers. Especially when there were approximately 9000 KS backers. Add media outlets to the mix and you have paying customers sitting and watching each day go by wondering "what the hell is going on with my order".

People have been clamoring for any tidbit of information at all regarding what is going on, with nothing but radio silence from Oculus.....minus Palmers cryptic tweets that only added fuel to the fire.

On top of the shipping/communication issue, Oculus seemingly decided to yank the facial interface for people that wear glasses. There are quite a few reports/reviews out there stating that this is a huge problem. Even Norm at Tested said he had to take his glasses off just to use it.

I think everything has just balled up into a huge mass of distrust in Oculus.

Obviously people are starting to receive their Rifts now, but when you look at timeframes and distribution, they haven't even made it past the 8:02 AM EST order mark 5 days after launch.

Besides the facial interface issue, people really just want communication. As they say....first impressions are everything.

Just my $.02.
 

TheRed

Member
Project Cars just got patched on Steam for full Rift support.
This is good, glad I learned to not buy the oculus home version of anything that's available on steam, wasted $20 on subnautica when I could've got the steam version that would work on both.
 
I think it's definitely more of the fact that there has been absolutely no communication in the matter. They took preorders in January and had over 3 months to get the message out to the masses what the landscape would look like. Set expectations accordingly. They even said that their preorders exceeded any expectations they could imagine. If they couldn't meet production timeframes, they should have communicated that. Yes, people would still be upset, but nothing to the point it is at now.

When people placed their orders, they were given an estimated ship date, which for thousands of people was "March 28th". Yes, an estimate is not a guarantee. We get that. But as paying customers (well, ready to pay customers) sat by, they have only witnessed media outlets and KS backers receive theirs over the first few days after the "launch". Even KS backers were confused as to when they would get theirs. I'm incredibly grateful for what KS backers did, and happy they are getting free Rifts, but I think it was a grave error to prioritize them over paying customers. Especially when there were approximately 9000 KS backers. Add media outlets to the mix and you have paying customers sitting and watching each day go by wondering "what the hell is going on with my order".

People have been clamoring for any tidbit of information at all regarding what is going on, with nothing but radio silence from Oculus.....minus Palmers cryptic tweets that only added fuel to the fire.

On top of the shipping/communication issue, Oculus seemingly decided to yank the facial interface for people that wear glasses. There are quite a few reports/reviews out there stating that this is a huge problem. Even Norm at Tested said he had to take his glasses off just to use it.

I think everything has just balled up into a huge mass of distrust in Oculus.

Obviously people are starting to receive their Rifts now, but when you look at timeframes and distribution, they haven't even made it past the 8:02 AM EST order mark 5 days after launch.

Besides the facial interface issue, people really just want communication. As they say....first impressions are everything.

Just my $.02.

I also think that Oculus Home is missing some standard features, that shouldnt exist when launching a platform to sell games anymore.

These are the things I would be mad about Oculus Home:

-No refunds
-No cloud saves
-Apps only downloadable onto the system partition (yet)
-No chatting in the Oculus Home desktop version
-No achievements
-No genres in the shop
-No other payment methods besides debit card and CC
-No real big profile (what games does ABC has)

(At least all these problems using the desktop app)

And some other problems. I mean everyone that sees how Origin, uPlay and Steam are working nowadays would see what customers want and need in a storefront/social plattform.

It also doesnt make any sense to buy the Oculus Home versions compared to Steam, when some games it seems are only available in their VR form, while on Steam you usually get Non-VR and VR, you have cloud-saves, achievements etc.
And one thing thats imo really important are refunds.

Imagine I play a game that makes you sick after 5 minutes of playing, because the VR implementation is bad. You cant really play it, you are not able to play it. On Steam I can refund that game. On Oculus I cant. They just say you can refund it if such products can be refunded in your country, but that means I have to write an email to them, they have to answer, they might need to check the law and in the end say: No.
 
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