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Official CES 2006 Thread (AGAIN)

Vince said:
Unsure if it's been posted, if so just let me know:

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not posted i didnt realize RSX will handle the video. That bodes very well!

I thoguht CELL would be doing it!
 
borghe, you obviously know your stuff, but I really think your hope is influencing the way you think. Does your TV not have HDMI/HDCP-DVI? I know, I know, there's been no announcement, but why would they limit upconverted HD to HDMI but not true HD? It wouldn't make sense. HDMI is going to be a huge factor in home theater starting with these players because of the copyright protection it provides. For them to require it for upconverted SD content, but let true HD content go unprotected would be pretty ridiculous and counteractive.

I'd like to be able to keep any future DVD players I own connected through component as well, but I'm not going to be optimistic.
 
Some are saying component is fine with unprotected content. Protected content will require HDMI. We'll see what happens.
 
Falch said:
Are there any studios that back HD-DVD exclusively? It seems like Blu-ray has wider support.
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Universal is the only one backing HD DVD exclusively at the moment.

Cell and RSX handling Blu Ray video duties, just like I thought. :D
 
vatstep said:
borghe, you obviously know your stuff, but I really think your hope is influencing the way you think. Does your TV not have HDMI/HDCP-DVI? I know, I know, there's been no announcement, but why would they limit upconverted HD to HDMI but not true HD? It wouldn't make sense. HDMI is going to be a huge factor in home theater starting with these players because of the copyright protection it provides. For them to require it for upconverted SD content, but let true HD content go unprotected would be pretty ridiculous and counteractive.

I'd like to be able to keep any future DVD players I own connected through component as well, but I'm not going to be optimistic.
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the question has already been answered here. it's because when you upconvert DVDs to HD (or any other rez) the macrovision protection no longer works.

as for how I think, as I said, I have no beliefs. I would love concrete proof either way as much as the next guy. Damn straight I "hope" I can watch HDDVD and BRD on my living room TV this year. Either way I will likely go with a 3-chip DLP front projector next year and will be fine. But I adopted DVD in 1997 and was floored. and the launch list for both formats is looking nice. would be a shame if I couldn't watch them on my main tv in HD.
 
9:05 The chaiman and chief exec of Sony Corporation, Sirrrrr Howard Stringer! Mostly Howard's quotes from here on. He just told a joke about the Australian media tycoon Kerry Packer who dies last week. (Howard breaks for a special-effects laden movie trailer-like video that shows people around the world being captivated by digital entertainment playing everywhere.)




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9:15 Howard is going to describe a four-part digital media future.

1) e-Entertainment. Anywhere you want it. Cut to a demo of the W810, Sony's fifth Walkman Phone announced yesterday. You prolly know the specs: 2.0 megapixel camera, EDGE, plays Franz Ferdinand in stereo.
 
Guy LeDouche said:
9:15 Howard is going to describe a four-part digital media future.

1) e-Entertainment. Anywhere you want it. Cut to a demo of the W810, Sony's fifth Walkman Phone announced yesterday. You prolly know the specs: 2.0 megapixel camera, EDGE, plays Franz Ferdinand in stereo.
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Yeah the SE walkman phones suck. EDGE should have been in ages ago. Still using the k700 architecture i see ;) Truly the Nintendo of the mobile phone world.
 
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Cool. Those are new Sony flash drives. They fit into USB. No joke. Up to 5GB storage on the go. Awesome. they make my Sandisk Cruzer micro look big. :lol

That big thing above is the old Sony USB flash drive.
 
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Howard: "Introducing the Sony Reader. Thousands of titles will be avaiable. Downloading will be as easy as a digital song. You can turn over a page, adjust the size up or down ... four different sizes . You can store hundreds of titles using a Memory Stick and use the extra space in your bag for more Sony products (laughter).

Dan Brown, author of The Da Vinci Code, comes out to talk about e-books.

Dan. "In 1997, my first novel, Digital Fortress, appeared on the first e-book bestseller list. It was the number one selling e-book on the planet with about 12 copies.

"E-books offer me features that traditional books do not. If I'm on a trip for research, I can bring an enormous number of books with me. If I want a new book, I can download it even if it's two o'clock in the morning and no book stores are open.

Soon students will be able to carry all their books ... no more 50 pound backpack ... more important, the books will always be up to date.

"E-books will be great for authors, especially lesser known authors. Companies will be able to take risks on lesser-known authors. There will be more books in print, and more choices.

"For the new generation, e-books will be as natural to them as television is to us. E-books are here. I believe they are her to say. Welcome to the wonderful world of choice."

Who needs Blu-ray? This is the Sony reader that uses the display technology from E-Ink I’ve been hearing so much about. To give you an idea of just how good this display looks… I walked up to the counter, looked at the text on the screen and asked, “So when will you have working units to play with?” The reply: “This is a working reader.” I mistakenly though the text on the screen was some kind of plastic overlay—that’s how ink-like it looked. Then the PR rep increased the text size, searched through the table of contents and showed me some Manga comics. It is the first e-reader that seemed like I could sit down and spend hours on without experiencing eye strain. Part of the reason it works is that it does not have a backlight, so forget about reading in the dark. There is also zero flicker, as far as I could see. It’s small and lightweight too (.5 inches thick and smaller than a hardcover book). The reader accepts both Memory Stick and SD flash memory cards. It’s got a USB plug, and could be used to download and read websites, JPEGs or PDF docs. The battery life, as they are selling it, is equivalent to “7,500 page turns, avid readers can devour a dozen bestsellers plus War and Peace without ever having to recharge.”

The books will be available through the Connect Store, and there is some Connect software for managing your books (so far this is the only drawback). Random House, HarperCollins Publishers, Penguin-Putnam, Simon & Schuster and Time Warner Book Group are all on board with titles, along with Manga publisher Tokyopop. Sony is promising to deliver this reader by Spring.
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HAWT I have to get this.
 
e: beaten on the first half, here's the rest:



9:25 SHS back onstage. "I forgot to mention that the reader is backlit, so there's no flicker."

He's talking up the PSP now, and new LocationFree. "You can watch American television from a hotel room in London -- why would you want to?"

LocationFree demo of watching New York local TV channels from PSP onstage in Vegas.

2) Digital Cinema. "Sony ... offers four times the resolution of most projectors available. Genesis (HDW-F900 camera) gives filmmakers the look and feel of film that they're used to."

Video of Adam Sandler talking about fiming _Click_ in digital.
 
TTP said:
More like useless?
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far from it. I have been waiting for a huge e-book push for years now.

it might not be compelling to some or even most, but don't kid yourselves that there isn't a whole ton of us out there waiting for a huge ebook push.

luckily we now have four different competing standards to work with. and you think you HDDVD/BRD guys have a nasty war.
 
He's talking up the PSP now, and new LocationFree. "You can watch American television from a hotel room in London -- why would you want to?"

LocationFree demo of watching New York local TV channels from PSP onstage in Vegas.
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Awesome. So i can watch the latest episodes of Lost and stuff in the UK? :D

TTP said:
More like useless?
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Read my bit. This thing is a need :P
 
borghe said:
far from it. I have been waiting for a huge e-book push for years now.

it might not be compelling to some or even most, but don't kid yourselves that there isn't a whole ton of us out there waiting for a huge ebook push.

luckily we now have four different competing standards to work with. and you think you HDDVD/BRD guys have a nasty war.
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But we already have the PSP for that! :P
 
TTP said:
But we already have the PSP for that! :P
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this screen, and the future that most of us want, is much bigger than PSP. something around the size of a mass market TPB is more what we want.
 
borghe said:
this screen, and the future that most of us want, is much bigger than PSP. something around the size of a mass market TPB is more what we want.
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Yeah, I've never used an e-book reader or anything, but carrying around school books that way (I'm a teacher) is an awesome idea.
 
I borrowed my brothers PSP awhile back. No games, but I was just playing around with it. It seemed like a badass device.

That Location Free-TV sounds so fukking cool.

Damnit I'm trying to save. I can't just keep giving corporations $300 every other month.
 
9:32_Da Vinci Code_ producer Brian Grazer and director Ron Howard come onstage come on to talk about Sony cinema tech.

Ron Howard: "The stakes are pretty high, but at this point we couldn't be more proud of the movie and the way it's shaping up."

They're pimping the movie. Yadda yadda. Ron H: "People have been inspired by Dan Brown's novel to learn more about the subject." Grazer: "Sony has been committed to bringing the best version of this movie to theatres."

Clip of unseen Da Vinci footage with Tom Hanks as Robert Langdon.

Stringer: "If you thought that clip was tantalizing, it was projected with the new system. But here he is, larger than life, Tom Hanks."

Hanks gets huge laughs by pretending to squint at teleprompter: "Thank you, Howard. It's a great honor, to be here today, to deliver, these heartfelt comments about Sony's new SXRD High-Definition Television."

Stringer says something about the intellectual movie.

Hanks (squinting at prompter again) "You know Howard, it doesn't take an intellectual to figure out the interface on the... yadda yadda ... over 80 percent of Sony products!"

Stringer says something else. Hanks squints again : "... that are easily affordable for almost every home."

Glazer: "There are five or six movies every year that are a social experience ... I only want to see them by driving to a theater."

Ron Howard: "Nothing's going to replace the shared social experience of going to a theater."

They talk about embracing the new technological opportunities.

Hanks: "I'll do podcasts."
Stringer: "I think you just did."
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Movie pimpage.
 
I've been following the ebook scene for some years now (maybe you heard about a utility called Convert LIT for converting Microsoft Reader ebooks? well, I had something to do with that :) ) so I'm quite interested in the new Sony Reader. It seems like it's had some changes from its predecessor the Librie - faster screen, rechargable lithium battery, supports SD cards as well as Memory Stick, supports PDF etc. as well as Sony's own format.
 
Wollan said:
Battle of the celebrities.

Tom Hanks
Dan Brown
Ron Howard

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Justin Timberlake
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The combined power of the three worst haircuts of the modern age cannot, admittedly, be overcome.

Mr. Hanks, what in the fuck were you thinking?

Edit: Replace Mr. Brown with Mr. Brian Glazer.
 
Question: "is that ereader that technology i read about where it only uses battery to change the pixels, the screen stays that way forever with no power drain until you flip the page again?"

Edit: Nevermind, I see.
 
I liked the look of the original Librie a little better. I've been waiting for this to make it to our shores and look forward to seeing just how real the eInk technology works.

Deg said:
Awesome. So i can watch the latest episodes of Lost and stuff in the UK?
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Only if you have a LocationFree base station attached to a TV in the US...and you've registered your client device with that base station.

Unless of course they're announcing something less restricted for LF at CES.
 
kaching said:
Only if you have a LocationFree base station attached to a TV in the US...and you've registered your client device with that base station.

Unless of course they're announcing something less restricted for LF at CES.
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No please no :( I dont want boundaries.
 
Amir0x said:
Question: "is that ereader that technology i read about where it only uses battery to change the pixels, the screen stays that way forever with no power drain until you flip the page again?"
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It's e-Ink, and yes. That's why battery life is quoted in terms of page turns rather than hours.
 
gofreak said:
Another PS3 BD demo pic:

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That should clear up some concerns - full 1080p/60 playback :)
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i figured Sony would change the way cases for games/movies would look in nextgen. :D MS should have waited. if PS3 games' cases are very different in look than current game cases, that's yet another area X360 will look dated.













:p
 
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