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Official CES 2006 Thread (AGAIN)

Yahho! Go seems great. All my yahoo services can be synced on the phone. From email to calender, to do list, to photos. Messenger works fine. Then you have the usual news services etc.

Its all integrated into the phone very carefully. Makes you think its part of the OS package. Probably explains the Nokia arent responsible exclaimer before install. Its clever stuff and many will appreciate it.

Thumbs up! :)
 
Spike said:
Hmm, I wonder...

What if the formats were reversed, and Sony and company were the creators of HD-DVD and Toshiba and Co. (including MS) were the creators of Blu-Ray, would HD-DVD be the better format? :lol

Huh?

I'm pretty sure the majority of people that are pro-BluRay, are that way becuase it's the better technology and has far better support.

It would really have sucked if things were reversed. Due to Sony's marketing clout, and the fact they own the largest movie collection, things would have probably ended up pretty evenly divided even with inferior tech. That would lead to a far worse 'war'.

I'm hoping this ends quickly.
 
Onix said:
Huh?

I'm pretty sure the majority of people that are pro-BluRay, are that way becuase it's the better technology and has far better support.

It would really have sucked if things were reversed. Due to Sony's marketing clout, and the fact they own the largest movie collection, things would have probably ended up pretty evenly divided even with inferior tech. That would lead to a far worse 'war'.

I'm hoping this ends quickly.

Agreed.
 
sangreal said:
Fact, eh? Might want to tell that to Warner.

(Who actually owns the largest film library)
Nope, not even close actually.


The Guardian UK said:
The purchase of the 80-year-old studio - which owns the James Bond films - for around $4.8bn (£2.6bn) means Sony will have the world's largest film library of around 7,600 titles, with around 4,100 of those from MGM.
BusinessWeek said:
And the combination of Sony's 4,000-title film library with MGM's 4,500-film library will give Sony control of 40% of the home-viewing movie market.
 
This is the future people;

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It rapes bluray in capacity by over 20 times ! We are talking terrabytes people !

This tech is only a year away. Die bluray die !
 
Ryudo said:
This is the future people;

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It rapes bluray in capacity by over 20 times ! We are talking terrabytes people !

This tech is only a year away. Die bluray die !

This makes SED look mature. :lol
 
Ryudo said:
This is the future people;

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It rapes bluray in capacity by over 20 times ! We are talking terrabytes people !

This tech is only a year away. Die bluray die !

HVD Disk Players and Burners won't be on a consumer level for a LONG time. They are being targeted (now and the next couple of years) to companies to are interested in Data Archiving.

HVD will probably be the successor to Blu Ray or HD-DVD.

Note: The CD based HVD are like in Alpha stage or something. What you may be seeing is HVD HDDs being sold. For how much? I'm not sure. Its extremley exciting nonetheless. We may be seeing TerraByte Disks that have GigabByte transfer speeds once HVD CDs come to the consumer level.
 
Goreomedy said:
Sorry, but he's right. After the MGM merger, they're top dawg.

Heian-kyo said:
Nope, not even close actually.

Well then like I said, perhaps you should tell Warner. :)

You also may want to talk to the Blu-ray disc association, because apparently they have been duped too.

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/assets/downloadablefile/051020-13122.pdf

BURBANK, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 20, 2005--Warner Bros. Entertainment and its home entertainment division Warner Home Video, which distributes the largest film library of any studio, today announced it has joined the board of directors of the Blu-ray Disc Association and will release its films on the Blu-ray format.

Warner Home Video's film library is the largest of any studio, offering top quality new and vintage titles from the repertoires of Warner Bros. Pictures Inc., Turner Entertainment Company, Castle Rock Entertainment, HBO Home Video and New Line Home Entertainment.
 
BlueTsunami said:
HVD Disk Players and Burners won't be on a consumer level for a LONG time. They are being targeted (now and the next couple of years) to companies to are interested in Data Archiving.

HVD will probably be the successor to Blu Ray or HD-DVD.

Note: The CD based HVD are like in Alpha stage or something. What you may be seeing is HVD HDDs being sold. For how much? I'm not sure. Its extremley exciting nonetheless. We may be seeing TerraByte Disks that have GigabByte transfer speeds once HVD CDs come to the consumer level.

They arent much more than a year away and they are already gigabit transfer speed. I just get giddy thinking that i could have 1 terrabytes plus on a single disk ! I could backup my own system 20 times on one disk !

I just dont want an inferior product like bluray (or heavens forbid hddvd) to be a sucsess and have something like this fail because of lack of support.
 
sangreal said:
Well then like I said, perhaps you should tell Warner. :)

You also may want to talk to the Blu-ray disc association, because apparently they have been duped too.

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/assets/downloadablefile/051020-13122.pdf

Warner made a bid for MGM. Sony and partners eventually made an offer too rich for them to counter. I doubt a press release welcoming Warner to Blu Ray is going to select wording which would rub that acquisition in their face. :)
 
Is it just me or do the new cases for BluRay and HD-DVD look awful? I really hate the big rounded tops on them, and the color blue that they picked for the BR cases looks really stupid imo. They also won't be able to fit into a lot of DVD cases/shelves now either...

Do we even know the size of the cases? They look the same as DVD cases to me, only the paper cover is shorter to allow the goofy top pieces with the logos to show.

Look at all the covers, they don't look as tall as the covers in DVD cases.
 
Users of S60 phones(Nokia 6680,6682, 6630, N90, N70, N71, 6600, 7610, 6620 etc. some Samsung, Panasonic etc.) dont forget to install the greatness that is Yahoo Go. :D
 
The Sony Reader now has a definite price of $350, since it's shown up on the Sony Style online store. Also, it's now been confirmed on the Librie list that the Reader will have native support for all of PDF, TXT, RTF and MP3. HTML will require conversion, but software is supplied with the unit for doing that. Speaking of the software, another thing that was posted on the list is a screenshot of the Connect store... bears more than a passing resemblance to iTunes :)
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Woohoo! Leaving for the airport to go to Vegas! Hopefully the hotel has broadband access so I can check in over the weekend. :D
 
Goreomedy said:
Warner made a bid for MGM. Sony and partners eventually made an offer too rich for them to counter. I doubt a press release welcoming Warner to Blu Ray is going to select wording which would rub that acquisition in their face. :)

Actually, the issue is that MGM and Sony pictures are seperate. Sony has some major partners for MGM and it's not solely theirs. In fact, there were some rumblings that MGM management wanted to go with HD-DVD and they do have the ability to make their own decisions. However, Sony does own a significant portion, taking on substantial MGM debt and was able to make Blu-Ray stick.

Also, MGM has a larger library, by itself, than Warner. However, they have been very slow, reluctant, whatever, to release them to home video. Of course, much of that is movies from the 30's to the 60's, which was their golden age. That untapped library is the reason why so many folks wanted them, although, I have doubts as to how valuable those titles are.
 
thorns said:
:lol :lol
now that's bullshit, if that's real.

Like I said, for what it's worth :p Obviously you can make anything look better than anything else depending on how things are set up. In some ways they were kind to the DVD, though, by not throwing it onto a larger screen ;)
 
Amir0x said:
that e-book reader makes me so hot

i must hold out for a color version, especially 'cause i'm poor :(

Yeah I'm very interested to see how it holds up to extended use though. I have a Franklin eBookman which isn't bad but the backlight eats batteries so damn fast and it is essentially unreadable without it.
 
Jerkface said:
Yeah I'm very interested to see how it holds up to extended use though. I have a Franklin eBookman which isn't bad but the backlight eats batteries so damn fast and it is essentially unreadable without it.

doesn't this use eINK tech, which only wastes battery when you change the page? That's why they said the battery lasts for 7500 page turns or something.
 
Amir0x said:
doesn't this use eINK tech, which only wastes battery when you change the page? That's why they said the battery lasts for 7500 page turns or something.

What they say the battery does and what it really does is usually different! :D

Hopefully they will send out review units soon enough so the durability can be tested.
 
doesn't this use eINK tech, which only wastes battery when you change the page? That's why they said the battery lasts for 7500 page turns or something.
Correct. The battery is only used to change the text displayed. Additionally, there is no backlight, etc.

So the amount of change from page to page will determine battery usage and life.
 
Ryudo said:
This is the future people;

opt01.jpg


It rapes bluray in capacity by over 20 times ! We are talking terrabytes people !

This tech is only a year away. Die bluray die !

Why do people keep saying stuff like 'a year away'?

Do you think that BluRay and HD-DVD where only a year away from delivering media and an initial player last March? It takes a hell of a lot longer than a year to get the industry (movie companies, HW manufacturers, and media producers) together to back a format. Not to mention all the logistics involved in a serious format launch.
 
Ryudo said:
Yeah thats it ...
haha, i knew you'd get butthurt by that comment :lol
not my fault all you did was ramble on about hvd > br, hvd > br! (even though it's probably gonna be shitloads more expensive) and said nothing about hd-dvd
 
BlueTsunami said:
Yeah, my next HDTV purchase will not be anything under 1080p, At least two HDMI...and thats about it.

Make sure the HDMI accept a 1080P input. I can't believe JVC is going another year in their consumer models without supporting 1080P via HDMI.
 
gofreak said:
Like I said, for what it's worth :p Obviously you can make anything look better than anything else depending on how things are set up. In some ways they were kind to the DVD, though, by not throwing it onto a larger screen ;)

yeah, imean both discs basically hold data and they even use the same encoding standards.. it's not even analog so it's impossible to have different quality on the data itself. the other tv seems to have different color settings that's all. The only thing that could matter is HD-DVD is smaller so the bitrate of the encoding is lower, which wouldn't manifest itself in such drastic color difference, but causing artifacts in the picture. Such difference wouldn't be easily noticed by "normal" people.

As I said, it's a stupid comparison, apples to oranges because it's connected to two different tvs who might not have identical settings. The issue between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is definately NOT image quality. It's more about capacity/DRM/interactivity/content.
 
thorns said:
yeah, imean both discs basically hold data and they even use the same encoding standards.. it's not even analog so it's impossible to have different quality on the data itself. the other tv seems to have different color settings that's all. The only thing that could matter is HD-DVD is smaller so the bitrate of the encoding is lower, which wouldn't manifest itself in such drastic color difference, but causing artifacts in the picture. Such difference wouldn't be easily noticed by "normal" people.

As I said, it's a stupid comparison, apples to oranges because it's connected to two different tvs who might not have identical settings. The issue between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is definately NOT image quality. It's more about capacity/DRM/interactivity/content.

the comparison is between DVD and Blu-Ray. The diffrence in color and brightness is probably because they didn't give the the DVD the advantage of progressive scan, and the photo caught a single interlaced frame.
 
Flo_Evans said:
the comparison is between DVD and Blu-Ray. The diffrence in color and brightness is probably because they didn't give the the DVD the advantage of progressive scan, and the photo caught a single interlaced frame.

The Pioneer upscales to progressive automatically if thats the case.
 
I have seen Blu-ray video personally.....no way could you mistake it for DVD video.....no way...

Wait until you see it for yourself before making any snap judgements...
 
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