seismologist
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Official Fable! (released tomorrow)
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seismologist said:
I don't see the big deal. I actually like it a lot becuase, while it's done that way to avoid exploitation, it gives the player the option to save the items and experience received, even if the progress in the quest hasn't been saved.
Just know that once you start a quest, you have to finish that quest before saving it, or you'll have to restart.
FreakyFink
Member
op_ivy said:
Understandably, no store would want to price match Fry's price seeing how the game cost the store $40.XX. But it's Best Buy's policy to price match ANY local competitor. Mind you, BB could argue a Fry's store isn't within X miles (generally 10) of the store, and therefore is not considered a local competitor.
The bottom line is they cannot add exceptions to their policies ad hoc, and if you get a mananger involved, I'm willing to bet you'll get the price match. The extra 10% of the difference technically requires you to purchase the product at BB's full price and then bring in the receipt with the ad later (one day, one hour, one minute?).
XboxGamers
Member
WOW! Playing Fable is so damn incredible! It was worth the 4 years wait.
Just got started and was just walking around and behind one of
the houses a couple fooling around with each other. I talk to the man and
he said if I shut-up about this I'll get a gold for it. So I thought about
it because the deed says something about rumors spreads fast in this town
or something. So I didn't want to be a rat in the town so I took his gold
and got a bad deed. I can't believe what 1 bad deed can do to you, Lots
of people says things to you like "he's a devil" etc. just bad things
about you. So I bump into the man wife and told her about where her
husband was and I got a good deed and she ran to where he was and I ran
with her to see what would happen and she was all pissed at him saying all
kind of things like what a wife would say when a man cheats on her. LMAO!
The ambience sounds, Music, Graphics, Controls, Cam just about everything is soild in Fable. GOTY!
Here's some screens in 480p wih my LCDtv.
Just got started and was just walking around and behind one of
the houses a couple fooling around with each other. I talk to the man and
he said if I shut-up about this I'll get a gold for it. So I thought about
it because the deed says something about rumors spreads fast in this town
or something. So I didn't want to be a rat in the town so I took his gold
and got a bad deed. I can't believe what 1 bad deed can do to you, Lots
of people says things to you like "he's a devil" etc. just bad things
about you. So I bump into the man wife and told her about where her
husband was and I got a good deed and she ran to where he was and I ran
with her to see what would happen and she was all pissed at him saying all
kind of things like what a wife would say when a man cheats on her. LMAO!
The ambience sounds, Music, Graphics, Controls, Cam just about everything is soild in Fable. GOTY!
Here's some screens in 480p wih my LCDtv.
IJoel said:
It's probably more of an issue at the start but think about it. You did these quests, however minor they may be, you've trained, you taked to people, you save, or think you do. Then you load up and the npcs know nothing about what you did. Continuity, I think it's important.
Sysgen said:
No. You did part of the quest. That's the main issue, I guess, since the initial quest is lengthy as people are starting to get familiar with the game. Afterwards, it's very clear that as the quests are very well defined.
Again, there's a reason for the quests not being saved in-progress. Otherwise, people would boast very hard-to-accomplish things and would go around it little by little using the saving trick.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Sysgen said:
what is the point? there is nothing to do as a kid...its not like u can go anywhere except the one or two areas that are open to you...
Mine too. Says "Order being processed" on my account screen but it won't let me load the individual order. Should get it Monday then hopefully.
Better a little late at a kick ass price than never, though SOMEONE said Outpost was shipping this out yesterday for preorders. Hmmmm.....
Better a little late at a kick ass price than never, though SOMEONE said Outpost was shipping this out yesterday for preorders. Hmmmm.....
I found the answer to my progressive scan problem (I think...we'll see when I get home). The trick is to go to the dashboard and hold L+R and click both analog sticks. This makes the dashboard run in 480p. Close the tray with the game in it and it should work. Apparently this is an issue for some but not all HDTVs. Consequently, this happened with my review copy of Galleon, but I wrote it off as a badly burned disc. Tried it again last night in 480i and it worked. *** Two games in two weeks with a 480p bug after years without any game being a problem?? Too weird. ***
While I'm here, I wanted to know if there's going to be a way to level up outside of quests. I'm only two quests and one town into adulthood, and I was just wondering if the only way to level up was to take a quest, Hero Save at some point before the end, and then reload/re-do the quest.
Also, when/how can you sleep at the guild and does it heal you? I took some injuries during my second quest and figured I could sleep myself to good health. Most of the beds were taken (night time), but even the beds that weren't said I couldn't use them (even the crappy futons in another building).
I found quite a bit to do while I was a kid/teenager afraid that it wasn't going to be available when I became an adult. Off the top of my head, three skills challenges for better weapons, fetching apples, race to the door and back, gathering and reading books, killing bandits across the lake, and killing sparrows if you're evil.
While I'm here, I wanted to know if there's going to be a way to level up outside of quests. I'm only two quests and one town into adulthood, and I was just wondering if the only way to level up was to take a quest, Hero Save at some point before the end, and then reload/re-do the quest.
Also, when/how can you sleep at the guild and does it heal you? I took some injuries during my second quest and figured I could sleep myself to good health. Most of the beds were taken (night time), but even the beds that weren't said I couldn't use them (even the crappy futons in another building).
Fixed2BeBroken said:
I found quite a bit to do while I was a kid/teenager afraid that it wasn't going to be available when I became an adult. Off the top of my head, three skills challenges for better weapons, fetching apples, race to the door and back, gathering and reading books, killing bandits across the lake, and killing sparrows if you're evil.
XboxGamers
Member
From other players, You have to beat the quest to have a "world save". So you have to beat it first.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Trav said:
yea, just keep going back and forth to different parts of the forest that have enemies in them and kill them and u just get exp.
Trav said:
I dont think you can sleep at the guild after u become an apprentice hero....i think you have to goto the inn or something to sleep....and if u sleep in another persons bed in the towns you can get in trouble i believe.
Trav said:
i believe that was when you were a teenager tho, not a kid, and that still wasnt much.
and also you're still stuck in just 2 areas. Its also still considered part of the tutorial since they keep teaching you crap through that whole thing.
Either way, you can Save before doing those things such as the skill tests and what not and you can save after them too.
So I do not see what the big deal is here.....The Save system is just like Fricken GTA3 and Vice City. Everyone has played GTA3 and Vice City.....whats the big deal?
peace
edit: Thanks for the answers F2BB.
Saving in the beginning wasn't an issue for me as I had a few hours blocked out yesterday to start the game. I can't even remember when the first World AutoSave happened. I guess it was before adulthood. Sleeping, alignment issues, saving....none of this would be a problem if the manual for such and "epic" game was bigger, or at least more informative, than say, for a fighting game.
Saving in the beginning wasn't an issue for me as I had a few hours blocked out yesterday to start the game. I can't even remember when the first World AutoSave happened. I guess it was before adulthood. Sleeping, alignment issues, saving....none of this would be a problem if the manual for such and "epic" game was bigger, or at least more informative, than say, for a fighting game.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Trav said:
gotta agree on the manual....i looked at it and was like eH?....kinda skimp there...only good thing about it was that its in color.
peace
I didn't have any problems with the savings either, but did anybody notice how big the kid's feet is? Freakin huge. Anyway, im really enjoying this game, it might be my GOTY but there is a game called Half Life 2 coming out. My only complaints are the loading, easy(still havnet came close to dieing) and the lack of side quests. I know BBB said they had ways of forcing the player onto the main quest but it's rather lame. Sometimes after a main quest i dont even have a side quest just the main quest to complete. And i swear to god i want to kill the guildmaster. YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUEST CARD AT THE GUILD! one minute later YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUEST CARD AT THE GUILD! one minute later YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUEST CARD AT THE GUILD!
IJoel said:
Yea I did part of the quest. Let's examine what I did. Did the 1st part and the game autosaved, fine. Then, as said you have to get to your adulthood for the game to save.
What I did in childhood and as a teen,
1) I was introduced to whisper and everyone else.
2) I did the fastest apprentice thing,
3) I did the find the apples for the lady,
4) I killed the beetles,
5) I started doing the kill the swallows (until I found out it was evil)
6) I found like 10 books and read them,
7) I did the weapon training
8) I did the ranged training
9) I did the magic training
10) I took the test for the weapon training A+
11) I took the test for the ranged training A+
12) I took the test for the magic training A+
13) I walked around and explored.
2) I did the fastest apprentice thing,
3) I did the find the apples for the lady,
4) I killed the beetles,
5) I started doing the kill the swallows (until I found out it was evil)
6) I found like 10 books and read them,
7) I did the weapon training
8) I did the ranged training
9) I did the magic training
10) I took the test for the weapon training A+
11) I took the test for the ranged training A+
12) I took the test for the magic training A+
13) I walked around and explored.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
SKluck said:
what the hell are you saying?
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Sysgen said:
......
dude, about the books, they will always be back on the shelves like that.
thats just how the game is, it doesnt mean that your character didnt read the books, thats why they are in your inventory still.
if you saved after getting A+s on your training, then it saved that. The game lets you retake the test but u still got an A+ already.
all of that stuff should be saved if you saved after the fact....thats how it was for me. I dont know if you arent intelligent enough to realize this? or if your game is broken.
what is so hard to understand here?
thats just how the game is, it doesnt mean that your character didnt read the books, thats why they are in your inventory still.
if you saved after getting A+s on your training, then it saved that. The game lets you retake the test but u still got an A+ already.
all of that stuff should be saved if you saved after the fact....thats how it was for me. I dont know if you arent intelligent enough to realize this? or if your game is broken.
what is so hard to understand here?
A couple companies have 'training' sites for retail workers where you can take quizzes, earn points, and get random shit like golf balls, foot massagers, tents, coolers, random stuff like that.
Microsoft used to just give you software but they added the random shit a month ago.
Their XB training site has brand new xbox games. Their PC training site has XB games from 2002/2003.
Microsoft used to just give you software but they added the random shit a month ago.
Their XB training site has brand new xbox games. Their PC training site has XB games from 2002/2003.
Fixed2BeBroken said:
Thanks for the compliment. I assume you have a certain level of intelligence also and can I understand my perspective because it aint that damn difficult. Lets look at an atomic example. After loading up the game again
the game no longer recognizes that I am the fastest apprentice
Alex
Member
I've put about 5-6ish hours in thus far, although I admit I haven't climbed the ladder much.
It's halfway between a typical, funish console adventure game and Morrowind. It's all polished up, and looks, feels and sounds quite nice.
It is fairly enclosed, FFX is a dead on compairison. But there's still plenty to tinker with, and explore. And it all feels rewarding, which is a plus, no chump items (I'm looking at the Zelda compairisons here), or worthless areas.
Good attention paid to the layouts. There's also a very large set of Silver Keys placed around the world in order to open special chests (some of which require a higher multiplyer of keys), which lead to greater rewards.
Towns are very interesting, and very detailed. At least the few I've seen, this made me happy. Plenty of mischief to cause, bookshelves/things of interest to raid. Back alleys to explore, etc.
I have to say that the good/evil layout is actually pretty solid. There are very much bonuses to siding with evil, but the moral hangups are moreso than I was led to believe. It genuinely makes you feel like an ass in some cases.
Character development, well. It's pretty simple, and I've been skimping. You raise your attributes by using them, in the basic three style seperation.
Melee, Will, Ranged. You also gain EXP from fallen enemies that you can manually distribute to a varitey of sub-stats within the Guild, but I've been skimping on that myself, got a solid hoard of EXP built up in waiting, bah.
Challenge so far has been fairly average, not too low, but certainly not high.
I'm fairly happy to also notice the weapon selection. Yay for Axes. Eat it, Sword pussies.
The summary thus far would be:
Solid, rewarding character development. Cool weapons, outfits, progession feels simplified, but also well done.
Fun combat engine with all three segments feeling fairly polished. (a large change of opinion from last set o' imressions)
Surprisingly quality world design and layout. Very, very cool.
The mischief/side bits/world AI stuffs are truly a novelty, but not as hollow or meaningless as I had expected in the least *coughAnimalCrossingcough*. (turning into a crazy person, and going survival mode on a pack of guards last night ala GTA was a blast).
I'll have to spend more time with quests, and I've also completely ignored a lot of side bits as well. So eventually I'd like to chime up a more massive set of impressions.
I don't get the 8-9 hours stuff. Are people ignoring chunks of the game? Power leveling, then rushing through? Fable's main campaign doesn't seem overly huge, but I expect at least 20+ish hours on the clock when all is said and done.
Pretty darn fun thus far. It's not revolutionary, it's not the best RPG ever, not by a mile, but it's a very cool addition into a damn near dead genre, in my playtime at least.
Oh, and some of you are just really, REALLY petty. There's some very valid complaints, but a lot of this is just wacky. I'm as jaded and elitest as RPG players come, and this is shit I'd never complain about.
It's halfway between a typical, funish console adventure game and Morrowind. It's all polished up, and looks, feels and sounds quite nice.
It is fairly enclosed, FFX is a dead on compairison. But there's still plenty to tinker with, and explore. And it all feels rewarding, which is a plus, no chump items (I'm looking at the Zelda compairisons here), or worthless areas.
Good attention paid to the layouts. There's also a very large set of Silver Keys placed around the world in order to open special chests (some of which require a higher multiplyer of keys), which lead to greater rewards.
Towns are very interesting, and very detailed. At least the few I've seen, this made me happy. Plenty of mischief to cause, bookshelves/things of interest to raid. Back alleys to explore, etc.
I have to say that the good/evil layout is actually pretty solid. There are very much bonuses to siding with evil, but the moral hangups are moreso than I was led to believe. It genuinely makes you feel like an ass in some cases.
Character development, well. It's pretty simple, and I've been skimping. You raise your attributes by using them, in the basic three style seperation.
Melee, Will, Ranged. You also gain EXP from fallen enemies that you can manually distribute to a varitey of sub-stats within the Guild, but I've been skimping on that myself, got a solid hoard of EXP built up in waiting, bah.
Challenge so far has been fairly average, not too low, but certainly not high.
I'm fairly happy to also notice the weapon selection. Yay for Axes. Eat it, Sword pussies.
The summary thus far would be:
Solid, rewarding character development. Cool weapons, outfits, progession feels simplified, but also well done.
Fun combat engine with all three segments feeling fairly polished. (a large change of opinion from last set o' imressions)
Surprisingly quality world design and layout. Very, very cool.
The mischief/side bits/world AI stuffs are truly a novelty, but not as hollow or meaningless as I had expected in the least *coughAnimalCrossingcough*. (turning into a crazy person, and going survival mode on a pack of guards last night ala GTA was a blast).
I'll have to spend more time with quests, and I've also completely ignored a lot of side bits as well. So eventually I'd like to chime up a more massive set of impressions.
I don't get the 8-9 hours stuff. Are people ignoring chunks of the game? Power leveling, then rushing through? Fable's main campaign doesn't seem overly huge, but I expect at least 20+ish hours on the clock when all is said and done.
Pretty darn fun thus far. It's not revolutionary, it's not the best RPG ever, not by a mile, but it's a very cool addition into a damn near dead genre, in my playtime at least.
Oh, and some of you are just really, REALLY petty. There's some very valid complaints, but a lot of this is just wacky. I'm as jaded and elitest as RPG players come, and this is shit I'd never complain about.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Sysgen said:
why are they in your inventory? hmmm, dont know, maybe cause you took them? ever think the game makes it so that the books are always restocked? ever think about that? no that cant be it....in all other rpgs, once u take something its gone forever.
Not directed at only fable, DEVS LET US FRIGGIN SAVE WHENEVER WE WANT EVEN DURUNG A CUTSCENE IF I WANT TO.
If someone wants to save every 3 steps let them, dont' worry about protecting me from me devs just let me do what I want.
It also gives average players a chance to make their own difficulty, i know there's been a few PC games that if i couldn't save mid-boss battle i wouldn't have been able to do it(doom 2 last boss comes to mind).
Poeple here are saying dumb things like it stops exploitation blah blah blah, who cares? Who is being exploited, the game i bought and is now my peoperty? I don't think my copy of the game will mind.
If someone wants to save every 3 steps let them, dont' worry about protecting me from me devs just let me do what I want.
It also gives average players a chance to make their own difficulty, i know there's been a few PC games that if i couldn't save mid-boss battle i wouldn't have been able to do it(doom 2 last boss comes to mind).
Poeple here are saying dumb things like it stops exploitation blah blah blah, who cares? Who is being exploited, the game i bought and is now my peoperty? I don't think my copy of the game will mind.
Fixed2BeBroken said:
Yea, it's not the books. I just don't like the system. My choice.
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Enjoy the game. Cheers.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Fixed2BeBroken said:
I think it's more like, you read them and left the books up on the shelf.
Anyway, wow...you're selling the game after 2 hours of play? Crazy, but OK.
The save system is fine and, like others have said, is pretty much like GTAIII/VC's for a reason.
10 or so hours in and damn, this game is still fucking cool. Fable II must be on Xenon, damn it! Though, that possible expansion pack mentioned at Kikizo is now most definitely welcome, as well.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Rodriguez said:
Keep flirting...a lot....and give gifts (roses, chocolates, jewels, etc.)...unti she says something to the effect of, 'we should get married'...and *then* give her the ring...preferably a real one, as I've not had any luck with the fake ones.
siamesedreamer
Banned
The framerate problems are getting on my nerves. Its not a deal breaker, but I wish they would have optimized it better. Some points feel like I'm right back playing Deus Ex 2.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Rodriguez said:
how do you get laid in this game?
i had this girl all on my nuts, then i had her follow me to an inn and i used the bed thinking my guy would get laid but he didnt.
Fixed2BeBroken said:
Same here. I got that hairdresser to an inn, but nothing happened. The next day, I had her follow me out to the picnic area and I killed her.
Prine said:
It's funny you mention that. After I completed my 7th-8th quest, I went into town and noticed the heart icon over the heads of a couple men. But I ain't exploring that avenue.
siamesedreamer
Banned
Y'all need to go buy a bunch of beer and then drink it.
The graphical effect kicks ass. And I vomitted twice.........
The graphical effect kicks ass. And I vomitted twice.........
Every man gotta right to decide his own destiny,LAMBO said:
And in this judgement there is no partiality.
So arm in arms, with arms, well fight this little struggle,
cause thats the only way we can overcome our little trouble.
Brother, youre right, youre right,
Youre right, youre right, youre so right!
We gon fight (we gon fight), well have to fight (we gon fight),
We gonna fight (we gon fight), fight for our rights!
Well the game is not released in Europe till October 8th. And from this thread we can deduce that it is indeed an AAA title, which is great news. How did I come to this conclustion? The main complaint is how the game is saved. Now sometimes, just sometimes mind, you Americans are so funny (unlike that Friends shite you hoisted on us). Now how many days till October the 8th 1...2...3...........
Just completed my first play through, managed to make it the whole way without doing anything evil, by the end i was so damn attractive every time i walked through any town another 4 women (and one man) fell in love with me, and if i sat down to play a game in the tavern, by the time i finished everyone in the whole town would be crammed into the tavern cheering for me, crazy stuff...also got some luvvin from the mayoress (she said i was a hero in more ways than one).
Few questions before i start my second play through though...
1. Has anyone managed to marry any of the other guild apprentices? I had one in love with me but she wouldnt marry me untill i had a place for us to live, i had a few spare houses in other towns so i figure you need a house in the zone you're in, and as you cant get one at the guild...no hero weddings.
2. How do you buy shops? do you have to kill the occupants first or something like that?
3. Did anyone find Treasure Clue 3 (and what does it say)?
Few questions before i start my second play through though...
1. Has anyone managed to marry any of the other guild apprentices? I had one in love with me but she wouldnt marry me untill i had a place for us to live, i had a few spare houses in other towns so i figure you need a house in the zone you're in, and as you cant get one at the guild...no hero weddings.
2. How do you buy shops? do you have to kill the occupants first or something like that?
3. Did anyone find Treasure Clue 3 (and what does it say)?