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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
- Thread starter VictimOfGrief
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TheHeretic
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My Q6600 gets a 7.4 =/
Deus Ex Machina
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TouchMyBox
Member
Aesius said:
Those timing are a bit higher than most DDR2 sticks I see, make sure they're set at what the manufacturer claims for the modules. Other than that, it's pretty much in-line with what you should be getting.
Why are we using the windows benchmark again?
Rufus said:
While not very noticeable in games, timings and clock speed do account for a lot in benchmarks. But yes, having 4GB these days is definitely sound advice especially when using vista/7.
Annihilator
Member
TouchMyBox said:
I would guess because everyone pretty much has it and it's easy to use. What would you suggest we use?
brain_stew
Member
Aesius said:
Does this score look normal for:
AMD II X2 Phenom 550
ATI Radeon 4850
2 GB Crucial PC6400
The memory performance score seems awfully low. Here's what it looks like in CPU-Z
Anything look out of place?
Timings are a little loose and 2GB really isn't very much these days.
SundaySounds
Banned
So, my 260 came with a hdcp cable... What do I do with it?
Schrade
Member
HDCP is not a cable. HDCP is a protection scheme to encrypt digital data over digital connections. (HDMI/DVI)SundaySounds said:So, my 260 came with a hdcp cable... What do I do with it?
Your drivers are just telling you the connection between your video card and monitor is HDCP capable and therefore you can display encrypted movies to your monitor. For example, now software Blu-ray players running on your computer will be able to output to your monitor.
SundaySounds
Banned
Schrade said:
Oh, yeah. Apparently the cable in question is a SPDIF audio cable. Still don't know what to do with it.
TouchMyBox
Member
SundaySounds said:
You use it to connect your soundcard to your videocard so that you can do passthrough audio should you use an hdmi cable. You don't need it unless you're planning on using the computer with a TV or receiver for a sound system.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Firestorm said:
My vote goes to brain_stew.
And since we're apparently posting our results from the Windows benchmark:
I'm torn between the geforce GTX 275 and the new 5850 for the new PC i'm going build soon. However the problem is, is there's a $109 price difference, however from the benchmarks, there doesn't seem to be a huge performance increase for the 5850 over the geforce gtx 275 to justify the cost. But DX11 support + free dirt 2 game is very tempting.>_<
brain_stew
Member
Lafiel said:
There definitely is a noticeable increase in performance and as games are optimised for DX11 it'll only increase over time.
wipeout364
Member
Is windows 7 OK for gaming? Just got an upgrade disc and I was wondering if I should go ahead. are there many compatibility problems with older games?
evil solrac v3.0
Member
whats the best mouse and keyboard for games right now? money is almost not an issue..... i don't wanna go crazy but i won't cheap out either....
Minsc
Gold Member
evil solrac v3.0 said:
Logitech makes the best mice, my favorite mouse ever is the G5 (which is retired and no longer the newest model now), but the G500 looks damned nice too.
I really like my keyboard now, Microsoft's SideWinder X6 Keyboard, it's got infinitely adjustable volume and great backlit keys (which are also infinitely adjustable). The calculator button and macro keys and swappable numpad are nice as well.
SundaySounds
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evil solrac v3.0 said:
Do you want wireless or wired? Wired devices will be more accurate and responsive.... but they have wires.
As for keyboards, I have a Saitek Eclipse II, and I really like it. keyboards with light up keys are a must, imo.
evil solrac v3.0
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SundaySounds said:
i would prefer wired, but if anyone can recommend a responsive wireless... although i do have the saitek Eclipse II it feels a bit small for me.
SundaySounds
Banned
Decado said:
Wallach said:
This is pretty accurate for most high end video cards today.
Minsc
Gold Member
evil solrac v3.0 said:
The Microsoft SideWinder X8 Mouse has no perceivable lag, and becomes a wired mouse when you charge it (so no down time) or if you feel like it I guess. It is rather large, which may normally be a negative, but it sounds not so in your case.
Minsc
Gold Member
Decado said:
I think it will get a fair amount of support in 2010. So far what's announced/out is:
Aliens versus Predator
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
BattleForge
Dirt 2
Dungeons and Dragons Online
Lord of the Rings Online
S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Call of Pripyat
Not a whole lot, but I expect 2010 to announce a few dozen more games w/ DX11 support.
Good point, but i'll think i'll be going with the geforce gtx 275 (reading wallach post). As by the time i really need a DX11 card, i'll probably be able to get one that is better and cheaper then the 5850 right now. And while it may seem like a waste to upgrade from a geforce gtx 275 like say early-mid next year. It won't be, in my case. As i'll have a another PC to pass it along too.brain_stew said:
Crysis 2 will also support DX11, but i'm not so sure if that's coming out in 2010.
I see one or two games I may play among those. I guess the other issue is whether the DX11 features are the highest end. As in, regardless of your card, you'd need the best of everything else in order to actual enable them. If they're resource hogs then it doesn't reallly matter (I'll OC my CPU, but it still won't be anything special).Minsc said:
Wallach said:
What is the MSRP for 5850s? Here in Sweden thet shops are usually taking the US price times 10 so the 5850s started at 2500 Skr and a couple of weeks they've been now they are 3000 Skr, but now they are falling back to 2500 Skr as supply increases. I just want to know if the MSRP is even lower than $250, in that case I can wait until middle of January or maybe even February.
brain_stew
Member
Decado said:
Simply "supporting" DX11 should be enough for some performance improvements on the currect hardware, especially for AA and post effects like SSAO.
brain_stew
Member
Caj814 said:
A whole host of disadvantages.Only situation I'd really recommend it for is if you plan to use 3D Vision, otherwise a 5870 should be more than enough for your needs and doesn't come with the headaches.
Hi Dudes,
I just ordered this:
Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz 4800MT/s S1156 95W 8MB BOX
ASUS P7P55D-E PRO P55 S1156 ATX
1024MB Sapphire Radeon HD5770 Vapor-X GDDR5 Lite Retail PCIe
ATX Midi Antec Three Hundred Midi Tower
ATX CoolerMaster Silent Pro M 500W ATX 2.3
2x2048MB Kit Exceleram PC3-12800 1600Mhz CL8
LG GH22NS50 SATA
1000GB Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black 32MB 7200 U/min S
Did I do good?
I just ordered this:
Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz 4800MT/s S1156 95W 8MB BOX
ASUS P7P55D-E PRO P55 S1156 ATX
1024MB Sapphire Radeon HD5770 Vapor-X GDDR5 Lite Retail PCIe
ATX Midi Antec Three Hundred Midi Tower
ATX CoolerMaster Silent Pro M 500W ATX 2.3
2x2048MB Kit Exceleram PC3-12800 1600Mhz CL8
LG GH22NS50 SATA
1000GB Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black 32MB 7200 U/min S
Did I do good?
Combichristoffersen said:My vote goes to brain_stew.
And since we're apparently posting our results from the Windows benchmark:
Did you overclock your GPU a lot? I'm getting this score.
The RAM is DDR3-1600, HD5850 graphics and the disk is a velociraptor (it's only showing the windows partition).
TheHeretic
Banned
elostyle said:
Looks good to me! Never heard of that brand of RAM but the rest is solid.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Irulan said:
Actually, no, I haven't overclocked my 5770 at all.
BoloTheGreat
Banned
Why are people using the windows measurement? It's the most retarded scale on earth, surely you should be using some kind of benchmarking tool like Furmark, Unengine hell even Call of Pripyat.
TheHeretic
Banned
TaKeRx said:
Just noticed no-one replied to this so here's my recommendation. Firstly, do you want to over clock your CPU? The main sticking point is an AMD or Intel processor. I'm biased towards AMD's because the 1156 architecture is entirely unclear whilst AM3 is here to stay. As a rule though you never build for upgradability, just what works here and now, so here it is.
CPU - Intel i5 750 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215&cm_re=i5_750-_-19-115-215-_-Product - $200
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...cm_re=1156_motherboard-_-13-128-412-_-Product - $135
RAM - G.Skill 4GB DDR3 12800 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=ddr3_dual_channel_4gb-_-20-231-193-_-Product - $96
Case - Coolermaster 690 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...137&cm_re=coolermaster-_-11-119-137-_-Product - $70
PSU - Corsair VX550 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9004&cm_re=corsair_psu-_-17-139-004-_-Product - $86
HDD - Western Digital 1TB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...re=western_digital_1tb-_-22-136-284-_-Product - $100
DVD - Sony Optiarc Black 24X - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e=dvd_burnter_internal-_-27-118-030-_-Product - $32
GPU - Sapphire 5850 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4102857&cm_re=ati_5850-_-14-102-857-_-Product - $310
OR
GPU - XFX 5770 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447&cm_re=5770-_-14-150-447-_-Product - $180
Total Cost: $1029 or $899
And thats about as much as i'd spend on a computer. All the best parts money can buy, as good performance as you are going to get without going into sloppy and annoying dual GPU setups. If your monitor has a resolution of 1680x1050 or less I would consider downgrading the GPU to a 5770 and save $130, as that GPU is really only going to get a workout at full HD resolutions and above. The 5850 is a huge bastard and i've read it fits into that case but you might want to read into it.
i'm definitely having some issues with windows 7 64-bit. logitech's software doesn't work with my 3-year old mouse anymore (giving me one useless button and far less customizations in general), and drivers for my ps2->usb converter seem to map the d-pad in a non-standard way, so stuff that used to "just work" doesn't anymore.