Official NFL Week 3 Thread: Where 1-1 feels like a Championship

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iapetus said:
I think the problem is that the Jags already know what they have at O-line. And it consists of a whole lot of backups and guys who got cut elsewhere. What they need is for Meester and Wade to get healthy for a start.
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Every team has some holes, the Jags now have some bigger ones than others, but it is up to the coaching staff to find a way around them. That is why I thought a bye would really help the Jags out at this time. It would give the new guys some time to gel and let the coaches figure out the style of play that would best allow them to win the most football games.

It isn't like the Jags are without talent. They still have a very good defense and if you think Garrard is the guy, then the Jags need to start spreading things out to give their qb a chance. Then use the pass to set up the run. That kind of smoke and mirrors probably won't work against the elite teams, but if the Jags play well they can beat the easy teams on their schedule and maybe sneak into the playoffs.

Interesting to see how the Vikings do with Gus. Lets see if it was all TJack's fault.

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Rorschach said:
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Ok, so you fake the handoff, roll out and run towards the sidelines, then you keep running. Keep running 'till you hit Minnesota.
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:lol :lol :lol
 
Picks:

KC @ ATL
OAK @ BUF
TB @ CHI
CAR @ MIN
MIA @ NE
CIN @ NYG
HOU @ TEN
ARI @ WAS
DET @ SF
STL @ SEA
NO @ DEN
PITT @ PHI
JAC @ IND
CLE @ BAL
DAL @ GB
NYJ @ SD


Go Chargers!
 
Vikings coach Brad Childress has spoken, and he’s made clear that he doesn’t expect Tarvaris Jackson to get off the bench any time soon.

Childress said that barring injury, Gus Frerotte is the Vikings’ starting quarterback for the rest of the season.

“I feel like we have an opportunity here that I don’t want to let pass by,” Childress said. “Obviously we have a chance to have a successful season and I think so we don’t let things potentially slip away, what we’re doing is I’m going to make a change at quarterback.”

Childress claims, however, that Jackson still has a chance to become the Vikings’ starter some day.

“It does not have to be a death knell for Tarvaris Jackson,” Childress said. “There are many quarterbacks in this league that have experienced bumps in the road, if you will. It’s part of the experience factor and while I know he doesn’t like it, I’d worry about him if he did like it, I know he’ll make the most of it.”

But the truth is, if Frerotte plays well enough to turn the Vikings’ season around after their 0-2 start, it’s hard to see how Jackson could return as their quarterback in 2009. And if Frerotte doesn’t play well and the Vikings’ 2008 season is a failure, it’s hard to see how Childress could return to decide who will be the quarterback in 2009.
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Oh, it's for the whole season! T-Jack's career over! Unless they do the mad switch of T-Jack for A-Smith!
 
My picks:

KC @ ATL - Picking the Falcons feels wrong, but I have to.
OAK @ BUF
TB @ CHI
CAR @ MIN - Panthers look really strong. Should be a close one.
MIA @ NE
CIN @ NYG
HOU @ TEN
ARI @ WAS - Cardinals might win the NFC West.
DET @ SF
STL @ SEA
NO @ DEN - Are the Saints good, bad or just meh? I still have no idea.
PITT @ PHI
JAC @ IND
CLE @ BAL
DAL @ GB
NYJ @ SD - Favre.
 
Wellington said:
Check this out - The Ultimate NFL Power Ranking
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I don't disagree with any of the top 10 order with the exception of the Skins behind the Vikings. I'm sorry, more Pro-Bowlers and less coaching upheaval does not exceed 3 SuperBowl wins and 5 appearances, especially when the 3 appearances the Vikings have made have been 3 losses.

I'd also argue that the Giants should be in the top 10 at 9 or 10 (and the fradulent Patriots should not be mentioned).
 
LiveWire said:
I'd also argue that the Giants should be in the top 10 at 9 or 10 (and the fradulent Patriots should not be mentioned).
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Yeah, the list is supposed to be based on 1970 on, yes? Patriots shouldn't be that high.
 
From PFT:

The four Rooney brothers not named Dan are weighing two offers for their combined 64-percent interest in the Pittsburgh Steelers.

One offer, to the reported tune of $800 million, has been made by Stanley Druckenmiller. The other offer has been made by Dan Rooney and his son, Art Rooney, II.

“It’s a big week,” one member of the Rooney family told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

KDKA-TV reported earlier this week that Druckenmiller had imposed a deadline of Friday for his offer. Either way, a decision is expected soon.
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Original story: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08261/912643-66.stm
 
Chiefs QB Thigpen to start vs. Falcons

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Tyler Thigpen, a second-year pro who set passing records as an All-American for Coastal Carolina, will start at quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons.

Chiefs coach Herm Edwards made the announcement Wednesday.

Thigpen came in for Damon Huard last week and hit 14-of-33 passes for 151 yards, one touchdown and one interception in a 23-8 loss to the Oakland Raiders. His only other game action came in 2007 in a 24-10 loss to the San Diego Chargers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3593861
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If we don't beat the Chiefs on Sunday, I'll commit seppuku.
 
LiveWire said:
I don't disagree with any of the top 10 order with the exception of the Skins behind the Vikings. I'm sorry, more Pro-Bowlers and less coaching upheaval does not exceed 3 SuperBowl wins and 5 appearances, especially when the 4 appearances the Vikings have made have been 4 losses.

I'd also argue that the Giants should be in the top 10 at 9 or 10 (and the fradulent Patriots should not be mentioned).
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FFA
 
Fantasy Query:

McFadden or Johnson? Lendale means that CJ won't get that many red-zone ops, but Run DMC is playing Buffalo's tougher D.
 
jakncoke said:
FFA
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Post-1970. So only 3 appearances in the 1970-2007 time period. But you are correct, in total they have 4 and 4 losses. All the more reason why they shouldn't be in the Top 10, or at least not above the Skins (or Giants).
 
LiveWire said:
Post-1970. So only 3 appearances in the 1970-2007 time period. But you are correct, in total they have 4 and 4 losses. All the more reason why they shouldn't be in the Top 10, or at least not above the Skins (or Giants).
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aww I see I wasn't even paying attention to the article, I just seen an random inaccuracy and felt like making a post:D
 
Quazar said:
Us Niner fans have some tough games coming up:

September 28 New Orleans
October 5 New England
October 12 Philadelphia
October 19 N.Y. Giants
October 26 Seattle
November 10 Arizona
November 23 Dallas
November 30 Buffalo
December 28 Washington

Pretty tough schedule
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welcome to our world. philly and nyg in the first 2 games :lol
 
KC @ ATL- Mike Turner no run D
OAK @ BUF- Its oakland
TB @ CHI
CAR @ MIN- Gus is in at QB
MIA @ NE
CIN @ NYG
HOU @ TEN
ARI @ WAS
DET @ SF
STL @ SEA- Pains me to say SEA will not stop Steven Jackson and Cant not stop Torry"Big Game" Holt with backs
NO @ DEN- Cutler has been looking like the Truth and with out Coltson Brees has no 1#
PITT @ PHI after mondays game looks like Philly is the second team to beat in the NFL
JAC @ IND- I give the Jags the edge with Big John in the middle and the colts having a rookie playing center could be a lot of sacks in this game
CLE @ BAL- Bazooka JOE Flacco will Throw all over the bad Secondary of Clevland GO RAVENS GO :P
DAL @ GB- Brett never beat Dal and think Arron could do it
NYJ @ SD

Lots of toss up games this week
 
why are so many ppl picking the eagles to beat the steelers?

nfc east division games are not much to go off of. neither are games where you play the st louis rams.

reid in his history has sucked against the steelers. in fact against all good AFC teams.
 
KC @ ATL Thigpen at QB? time to run LJ like its the 06 season all over again, and just like at that time, the chiefs will still suck.
OAK @ BUF Looks like the bills are better than anyone thought
TB @ CHI Im just gonna pick whoever has the better defense
CAR @ MIN If Gus takes over for the time being, the its the vikings game to lose, which they might anyway
MIA @ NE Fucking patriots have a ridiculously easy schedule.
CIN @ NYG Palmer to retire after getting sacked for the 30th time during the game
HOU @ TEN texans will looks as lost as they did against the steelers while the texans are on offense
ARI @ WAS going with the hometeam
DET @ SF gore will leave this defense gory
bad pun alert!
STL @ SEA toss up since seahawks have so many injuries
NO @ DEN denver has one of the best offenses in the league right now
PITT @ PHI you know who looks good? the eagles. the steelers look better
JAC @ IND if the jags were healthier, they might have a chance
CLE @ BAL browns finally get their shit together
DAL @ GB cowboys might be the best team right now
NYJ @ SD Chargers are too talented to lose to a visiting Jets team
 
KC @ ATL
OAK @ BUF
TB @ CHI
CAR @ MIN
MIA @ NE
CIN @ NYG
HOU @ TEN
ARI @ WAS
DET @ SF
STL @ SEA
NO @ DEN
PITT @ PHI
JAC @ IND
CLE @ BAL
DAL @ GB
NYJ @ SD
 
Barrage said:
Fantasy Query:

McFadden or Johnson? Lendale means that CJ won't get that many red-zone ops, but Run DMC is playing Buffalo's tougher D.
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If you mean Chris Johnson, then he is no question the one to go with. Tons of yards and breezy defense means he can still score. I'm probably starting both guys this week though.

(ugh stupid RB injuries, I hate carrying guys like fargas and brandon jackson)
 
LiveWire said:
I don't disagree with any of the top 10 order with the exception of the Skins behind the Vikings. I'm sorry, more Pro-Bowlers and less coaching upheaval does not exceed 3 SuperBowl wins and 5 appearances, especially when the 3 appearances the Vikings have made have been 3 losses.

I'd also argue that the Giants should be in the top 10 at 9 or 10 (and the fradulent Patriots should not be mentioned).
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Skins behind the Vikings is bullshit, might as well place the Bills in front of the Skins as well.
 
Crazymoogle said:
If you mean Chris Johnson, then he is no question the one to go with. Tons of yards and breezy defense means he can still score. I'm probably starting both guys this week though.

(ugh stupid RB injuries, I hate carrying guys like fargas and brandon jackson)
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Well my other RB is Portis, so i'll only be starting one of them :).

And in fact, I have a trade underway that will net me Adrian Peterson and only lose one starting player, so i'll roll into Week 4 with Portis/Peterson/Johnson as my RB choices. :D
 
Tamanon said:
iapetus! We brought back Naeole! <3
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Clearly in line with the Todd Wade policy of bringing in linemen who are already injured to save time and effort injuring them. Have I done the "Yes, the sky is falling, and the way things are going it'll probably land on Tutan Reyes," line yet?

bionic77 said:
Every team has some holes, the Jags now have some bigger ones than others, but it is up to the coaching staff to find a way around them. That is why I thought a bye would really help the Jags out at this time. It would give the new guys some time to gel and let the coaches figure out the style of play that would best allow them to win the most football games.
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I suspect what the new guys mostly need is real game experience, and hopefully they'll pick up quickly. The advantage of a bye week would be another week of healing for Wade and Meester, which I won't deny would be a good thing. Week 2 is not a good time to have to start rebuilding your OL from scratch, though, whatever way you look at it.
 
effzee said:
why are so many ppl picking the eagles to beat the steelers?
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People are buying into the hype that the NFC East is almighty and shall never lose a non-conference game?
Either that or they firmly believe Big Ben's arm could fall off at any second.
 
10-5 last week 20-11 for the year

KC @ ATL
OAK @ BUF
TB @ CHI
CAR @ MIN
MIA @ NE
CIN @ NYG
HOU @ TEN
ARI @ WAS
DET @ SF
STL @ SEA
NO @ DEN
PITT @ PHI
JAC @ IND
CLE @ BAL
DAL @ GB
NYJ @ SD
 
B-Rad Lascelle said:
People are buying into the hype that the NFC East is almighty and shall never lose a non-conference game?
Either that or they firmly believe Big Ben's arm could fall off at any second.
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well its not really hype...top to bottom its the best division in football. still the steelers are no joke.
 
iapetus said:
Clearly in line with the Todd Wade policy of bringing in linemen who are already injured to save time and effort injuring them. Have I done the "Yes, the sky is falling, and the way things are going it'll probably land on Tutan Reyes," line yet?



I suspect what the new guys mostly need is real game experience, and hopefully they'll pick up quickly. The advantage of a bye week would be another week of healing for Wade and Meester, which I won't deny would be a good thing. Week 2 is not a good time to have to start rebuilding your OL from scratch, though, whatever way you look at it.
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That works. Naeole at least has played hurt before, so it's a step up! I also would've gone with the "Del Rio is keeping expectations high, mainly so no more linemen trip over them"
 
Barrage said:
Fantasy Query:

McFadden or Johnson? Lendale means that CJ won't get that many red-zone ops, but Run DMC is playing Buffalo's tougher D.
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McFadden has turftoe and was sidelined for practice with a huge boot on his foot.

I think he'll play, but who knows if it affects his performance. Bush had to take over him the previous week.
 
B-Rad Lascelle said:
People are buying into the hype that the NFC East is almighty and shall never lose a non-conference game?
Either that or they firmly believe Big Ben's arm could fall off at any second.
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Perhaps a stupid question, but why are Dallas in NFC East, and St Louis in NFC West? Should it not be the other way around? Or am I missing something really obvious, like usual.
 
idahoblue said:
Perhaps a stupid question, but why are Dallas in NFC East, and St Louis in NFC West? Should it not be the other way around? Or am I missing something really obvious, like usual.
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The NFC East is "historic" and therefore untouchable. (Unless it's to kick out the Cards.)
 
idahoblue said:
Perhaps a stupid question, but why are Dallas in NFC East, and St Louis in NFC West? Should it not be the other way around? Or am I missing something really obvious, like usual.
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during realignment Jerry Jones bitched and whined because he didn't want to lose the yearly rivalry games against Washington, Philly and the Giants.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
during realignment Jerry Jones bitched and whined because he didn't want to lose the yearly rivalry games against Washington, Philly and the Giants.
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Also thanks. Another possibly stupid question. What is the purpose of the divisions? I know the historical reasons for them, but do they continue to serve any purpose other than 'rivalry games'? Some of the placings seems really off kilter. Did not the realignments remove some of the classic rivalrys anyway? I know the question may be silly, I'm just curious.
 
Assuming the divisions are geographically accurate, I'd think that it would help cut down the amount of travel that the teams have to endure for their road games.
 
effzee said:
why are so many ppl picking the eagles to beat the steelers?

nfc east division games are not much to go off of. neither are games where you play the st louis rams.

reid in his history has sucked against the steelers. in fact against all good AFC teams.
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Well it is in Philly. And I will be there.

First time for me seeing the Messiah in person. Hopefully I will remember seeing him win a football game.
 
bionic77 said:
Well it is in Philly. And I will be there.

First time for me seeing the Messiah in person. Hopefully I will remember seeing him win a football game.
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Do you live in Philadelphia?
 
lol isaac bruce and JT osullivan are dicks in interviews:

isaac bruce:

Q: What does O'Sullivan do so well to make this offense run as well as it has?
A: What does he do? He's coach-able, he listens and he applies what he hears.

Q: How do you like dealing with the media?
A: I love it.

Q: What do you like most?
A: Conversations.

Q: It doesn't look like you've really made a huge effort since you've been here to deal with the media. Is that your quiet personality?
A: Not at all. I speak when I have something to say, so. That's it.

Q: When do you generally have something to say?
A: When I'm asked a question that I can answer.
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JT O'sullivan in his interview with lions.com done today:

On what the Lions said to him when they released him
“They didn’t release me.”

On what they said when they didn’t resign him
“I didn’t have any personal conversations with them, no.”

On what he thought when Martz left here
“What did I think? I don’t really know what.”

On if he felt if he had the full support from the coaches in Detroit, besides Mike Martz
“I’m sorry what was the question? Did I have a feel?”

On his relationship with the rest of the coaches
“I thought the relationship with the rest of the coaches was good. I have no reason to think otherwise.”

On if the impression that he wasn’t wanted by all the coaches is wrong
“It wasn’t the impression that I had.”
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i guess it's not always really being a dick but it seems like they are both annoyed with the media.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
during realignment Jerry Jones bitched and whined because he didn't want to lose the yearly rivalry games against Washington, Philly and the Giants.
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yeah. jerry jones was the only one that bitched :lol


for example, the eagles/cowboys mnf game was the most watched cable program EVER. these NFC east games are ratings gold
 
Maybe it's just because I'm a programmer, but this paragraph from here just killed me:

One of the reasons we have not yet been able to update the Premium section with the 2008 stats is that the macro crashed while we were running the data output. Why the crash? Because the Rams have not had a single play in the red zone yet this year. That's right: The Rams suck so bad that they broke our programs.
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Ouch.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
during realignment Jerry Jones bitched and whined because he didn't want to lose the yearly rivalry games against Washington, Philly and the Giants.
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bitch about Jerry all you want but all the East teams have benefited from this. You think a cards vs eagles game would have gotten as much attention as the boys and eagles? Or even a saints vs eagles game? Call me crazy but I wouldn't want ANY East team leaving or would I want Dallas to play in any other division.
 
Zeke said:
bitch about Jerry all you want but all the East teams have benefited from this. You think a cards vs eagles game would have gotten as much attention as the boys and eagles? Or even a saints vs eagles game? Call me crazy but I wouldn't want ANY East team leaving or would I want Dallas to play in any other division.
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im not criticizing as im glad its worked out the way it did. East=best division in football. Every game is an event, if only because of the rivalries, but lately because every team has been at the very least good. I only mentioned Jerry because i think i remember him even threatening the NFL with litigation if they tried to move the Cowpokes out to another division.
 
effzee said:
why are so many ppl picking the eagles to beat the steelers?

nfc east division games are not much to go off of. neither are games where you play the st louis rams.

reid in his history has sucked against the steelers. in fact against all good AFC teams.
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what about against teams who only look good because they always get an easy schedule? I mean you're playing the Seahawks of the AFC.
 
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