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Official Raw 06/06/05 Thread! (Draft begins tonight!)

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the_geche

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Minotauro said:
Because he has a good physique?

Also, anyone who thinks Christian is ever going to be more than a glorified JTTS is setting themselves up for some major disappointment. He's been buried for far too long for them to make him a legit title contender.
Who or what is JTTS?
 

Nameless

Member
Minotauro said:
Because he has a good physique?

Also, anyone who thinks Christian is ever going to be more than a glorified JTTS is setting themselves up for some major disappointment. He's been buried for far too long for them to make him a legit title contender.

His career parallels that of HBk. Enters as part of a rookie tag team, has good success in that area...Turns on his partner and plays a mid-card heel role for an extremely long time..Has some matches against high profile stars but jobs, before finally getting a title push in his early 30s...

IMO the WWE has been testing Christian for main-event status. Hes been given promos at peak rating periods, hes been getting a ton of air-time, hes been given matches with opponents large in stature and IMO hes passed with flying colors.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Nameless said:
His career parallels that of HBk. Enters as part of a rookie tag team, has good success in that area...Turns on his partner and plays a mid-card heel role for an extremely long time..Has some matches against high profile stars but jobs, before finally getting a title push in his early 30s...

IMO the WWE has been testing Christian for main-event status. Hes been given promos at peak rating periods, hes been getting a ton of air-time, hes been given matches with opponents large in stature and IMO hes passed with flying colors.
This man speaks the truth. christian himself brought up these parallels when confronting HBK. :lol
 

evil ways

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Damn, the show has sure taken a plunge into the bore zone ever since the contract signing, now only the ECW run in can save it.
 
I request that if Lita is EVER to appear on camera again, she must wear what she was wearing tonight and she CAN NOT SPEAK INTO A LIVE MICROPHONE. Especially if you're going to keep her with Edge, she definitely has no reason to speak then.

Just let me stare at dem fake boobies. Don't make me hear her speak.

By the way, I heard a Joey Styles-voiced ECW PPV commerical the other day. I thought he had nothing to do with the PPV?
 

Bowser

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mightynine said:
By the way, I heard a Joey Styles-voiced ECW PPV commerical the other day. I thought he had nothing to do with the PPV?

Word has it that he quietly agreed to terms with WWE about two weeks ago to call the PPV.
 

Nameless

Member
If Sabu comes in I'm going to shit in my pants, and sleep in it until I pre-order the ECW PPV in the morning......Ditto goes for New Jackx2 if he comes out to his "Natural Born Killers" theme song and beats someone down with a vacum cleaner.
 

Nameless

Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo...Christian cannot be squashed by ECW thugs...this can not happen but I see it happening in mere minutes...

They can't do this to CC..
 

evil ways

Member
Man, what I wouldn't give for New Jack to come out with the fork or a cheese grater and juice everybody up while the music plays and Raw goes off the air.
 

evil ways

Member
FUCK YEAH!!!

ecw.jpg
 

Nameless

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KnotLikely said:
That was cool but it would have been 10x better with Sabu or New Jack.


Well seeing Axel Rotten and Balls Mahoney was bad fuckin ass....I don't even think JR knew who they were though, he acknowledged everyone accept those two..
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Pretty fun show tonight, despite the lack of wrestling. Cena coming out really supercharged the show at the beginning, and while it slowed down a bit in the middle, Christie Hemme going crazy saved a crappy match and made it mildly amusing. The HHH/Batista signing was just boring. It almost felt like this big main event match was completely overshadowed by Cena and ECW tonight, too. Bad move to have it tonight.

I was wondering why they ended the ECW rules match and then had all the storyline with Heyman instead of just letting Heyman come in and talk after the Dudleys took out Snitsky, then have Bischoff come down with his guys, then have the ECW crew come out and brawl. Maybe they just had too much extra time to fill or something.

I still think John Cena's switch is just temporary. Not a word was said about what's going to happen with his title. Since Cena is/was the top Smackdown! babyface, should SD! draft a big RAW babyface to take his place, then perhaps this is permanent, but something just tells me that we'll see Teddy Long on the final draft lottery SD! bringing Cena back.

LakeEarth said:
Rhyno and Raven, two I didn't expect.

Yeah, Raven especially. Did he leave TNA? Perhaps it's far too early to tell, but I can see all those wrestlers (not counting guys already in the WWE like the Dudleys) ending up with the WWE as part of RAW and Smackdown!, but I bet the ECW PPVs will end up becoming more than just a one night stand if it's done right. I'd love to see a one hour ECW show replace crap like Heat or Velocity, that's for sure. :p
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Lyte Edge said:
Pretty fun show tonight, despite the lack of wrestling. Cena coming out really supercharged the show at the beginning, and while it slowed down a bit in the middle, Christie Hemme going crazy saved a crappy match and made it mildly amusing. The HHH/Batista signing was just boring. It almost felt like this big main event match was completely overshadowed by Cena and ECW tonight, too. Bad move to have it tonight.

I was wondering why they ended the ECW rules match and then had all the storyline with Heyman instead of just letting Heyman come in and talk after the Dudleys took out Snitsky, then have Bischoff come down with his guys, then have the ECW crew come out and brawl. Maybe they just had too much extra time to fill or something.

I still think John Cena's switch is just temporary. Not a word was said about what's going to happen with his title...



Yeah, Raven especially. Did he leave TNA? Perhaps it's far too early to tell, but I can see all those wrestlers (not counting guys already in the WWE like the Dudleys) ending up with the WWE as part of RAW and Smackdown!, but I bet the ECW PPVs will end up becoming more than just a one night stand if it's done right. I'd love to see a one hour ECW show replace crap like Heat or Velocity, that's for sure. :p

Raven wasn't there. you're thinking of Axel
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
GaimeGuy said:
Raven wasn't there. you're thinking of Axel

:lol The guy with the mustache and "Raven" like hairstyle? Heh, I really did think it was him, too. Actually I thought it was Al Snow for a brief second. :)

LOL, look at LakeEarth editing his post. He said Raven first!! :D
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Lyte Edge said:
:lol The guy with the mustache and "Raven" like hairstyle? Heh, I really did think it was him, too. Actually I thought it was Al Snow for a brief second. :)

LOL, look at LakeEarth editing his post. He said Raven first!! :D
So did I. :lol

"Al Snow? No, Raven?! No, Axel?!" :D
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
This is from PWTorch:

"Certainly they kicked off the Draft Lottery with a big bang, almost too big in the sense that I suspect a lot of viewers are just waiting - as I am - for something that will send Cena back to Smackdown. But if you're going to go one way or another, go for the extremely interesting draft rather than a dud. Up against game seven of the Eastern Conference finals, they have to go big. There's a reason they're not hyping the "post-draft lottery trading period" on June 30 and staying away from calling any kind of attention to the rules."

So if there's any more big trades, it can all be "fixed" in a few weeks. Guess that explains Cena.
 
Nameless said:
Well seeing Axel Rotten and Balls Mahoney was bad fuckin ass....I don't even think JR knew who they were though, he acknowledged everyone accept those two..

He definitely had no clue.

"And Maven's....in that ree of woe by...(pause)....MY GAWD!"
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
mightynine said:
That or Batista goes to SD! when it's all said and done.

Batista won't be able to get traded until two weeks from now. It might not make as large an impact if that's the case, but with Cena being traded, who knows. I am 100% convinced that Cena will be back on Smackdown! in a month, but it's all very entertaining right now, especially since Cena has been on Smackdown! for several years, so anyone on RAW he gets to wrestle against, Batista aside, will be for the first time or the first time since his "Marky Mark" character was introduced.

Keller from the Torch seems to think that Jericho, not Christian, will be traded to SD!, only to feud with Cena when he returns to SD!. Kind of makes sense since I can totally see Jericho no-showing the tag match next week to start it off.
 

LakeEarth

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GaimeGuy said:
Raven wasn't there. you're thinking of Axel
Yeah, once I saw the post saying Axel I'm like FUCK and realized my mistake.

Lyte Edge said:
:lol The guy with the mustache and "Raven" like hairstyle? Heh, I really did think it was him, too. Actually I thought it was Al Snow for a brief second. :)

LOL, look at LakeEarth editing his post. He said Raven first!! :D
Yes but I edited my mistake 2 minutes before your post quoting mine :lol
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Brian Fellows said:
Damn I was hoping for Christian to Smackdown instead. I'm pretty much done with Raw after last week.

As far as actual wrestling goes, tonight's RAW sucked (there were what...three actual matches, with one of them getting cut short?), but the show was still awesome and had several "mark out" moments IMO. Actually has me really interested in what's going to happen on next week's show.

Oh, and apparently after Edge and Lita kissed in front of Kane...AGAIN (yuck), he had a short squash match against Simon Dean that they didn't bother airing.
 
tralfazz said:
After watching the ECW DVD this weekend and all the ECW talk, I am pretty f'in sure that ECW is going to be back with it's own TV and PPV. McMahon seems to have a soft spot for it and likely has given Heyman the money needed to run it.

By the way, it's RVD that brought up the ECW PPV to vince... so Heyman should thank RVD for that.
 
Tonight we should find out whom the (on life support) Smackdown has selected.

I'll post spoliers as soon as I can with all the results.

Count on another ECW run-in to combat Angle's group.


You know I really dislike the whole "rusader" angle to this, but on the one side of the coin at least Kurt does have a historic tie-in with them. At least he is connected in some way.

I have a feeling they'll either just leave it to the on-air beatdowns (like Raw) or handle it within the first 15 minutes of the PPV itself.

I also agree with an above poster, this won't be a one time thing. I have a feeling that ECW will be back in some capacity. Be it a replacement with HEat for a one hour ECW show or even doing a one hour show before RAW to combat TNA when they finally start on WGN.
 

Vallarfax

Formerly 'GMUNYIFan'
I don't wanna troll here...but do u guys actually watch/care about professional wrestling? I mean I was big into it when I was in middle school....but since then it's been kinda dumbed down.
 
GMUNYIFan said:
I don't wanna troll here...but do u guys actually watch/care about professional wrestling? I mean I was big into it when I was in middle school....but since then it's been kinda dumbed down.

Why actually yes I do. As well as a few select members we take it pretty seriously. So do yourself a favor and don't get on Bishop's bad side when it somes to the Prowrestling.

I watch it religiously every week.

Raw on Monday, Smackdown on Thursday and used to be TNA on Friday. I also watch tapes of just about anything I can get my hands on.

It really hasnt been "dumbed down" at all, it's just you are maturing and nostalgia is clouding your memories.

For myself it's not so much about the storylines (although they can help) but about the in-ring exhibitions. I consider these guys to be among some of the best athletes around.

Watch a Christopher Daniels or AJ Styles, Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Shawn Michaels match and you'll see what I mean.

It's just something to get behind, a hobby.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
So at the very end of this each GM gets to pick 2 guys right? So we'll prolly still see Cena and Christian on Smackdown I guess.
 

the_geche

Member
You know the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to think that it's either going to be HHH or (more-likely) Batista drafted to Smackdown. Notice how they made a big deal that HIAC was "draft protected" and HHH saying that stuff how the match would be the for the last time. I think WWE is gonna keep Cena on Raw, seeing as he is (argubly) the biggest face in the company and Raw is the flagship show. I expect HHH or Batista drafted to SD! and for there to be some inter-brand stuff leading up to Vengence with whoever SD! drafts winning the belt. Would keep things interesting and give Vengence a bigger buildup than the usual Raw PPV. I also expect to see RVD comming back to Raw before the month's end. I also hope that Raw drafts Paul London and a couple crusierweights as it would be awesome to see some crusierweight action on Monday nights...
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
Caught the first 15 minutes of RAW last night. The Cena/Christian feud must go slow boil for the better of the year - the promos are too damn good. Jericho's impending heel turn will be a welcome change of pace - send him to Smackdown where he can get a fresh perspective on his character. I'm hesitant to comment on anything else until the Smackdown spoilers get posted - if Teddy Long doesn't go after Batista or Hunter tonight I'll be shocked.
 

evil ways

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Wait, so has it been said that General Managers can pick people that have already been chosen by the opposing side? Like, can Teddy Long now get Cena back to SD! before the draft ends?

If so that's bullshit. The whole point of this draft should be to shuffle some important wrestlers into other shows, not cocktease a big trade for 2-3 weeks, then have people like Rosey, Snitsky and Hardcore Holly be the only ones who actually shift shows in the end.
 
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