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Official Raw 06/06/05 Thread! (Draft begins tonight!)

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Brian Fellows said:
So at the very end of this each GM gets to pick 2 guys right? So we'll prolly still see Cena and Christian on Smackdown I guess.

No..... each gets 5 picks.. one for each show.

As for the picks apparantly they are supposed to be random picks, not specific people.
 

Guzim

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bishoptl said:
if Teddy Long doesn't go after Batista or Hunter tonight I'll be shocked.
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"You know I will playa."
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
I bet BIG $$$$ that the person getting drafted will be.....HBK.

Since he's still hurt, he won't fight Angle, but it'll get Kurt away from Sharmell after HBK cost Angle the match with Booker.

The main event for Raw later this month is Batista/Cena vs. HHH/JBL



HHH is off Raw either next week or right after the PPV. BOOK IT.....mostly because HHH said the fued with Batista would be over.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Outcast2004 said:
No..... each gets 5 picks.. one for each show.

As for the picks apparantly they are supposed to be random picks, not specific people.



The 2005 WWE Draft Lottery

The 2005 WWE Draft Lottery has kicked off in a major way, as the WWE Champion John Cena was the first Superstar selected. As a result, Cena is now a member of the RAW roster. Use the below scorecard to follow the month-long Draft Lottery:

June 6: RAW selects John Cena (Watch: 56k | 300k)
June 9: SmackDown! selects TBD

June 13: RAW selects TBD
June 16: SmackDown! selects TBD

June 20: RAW selects TBD
June 23: SmackDown! selects TBD

June 27: RAW selects TBD (two picks)
June 30: SmackDown! selects TBD (two picks)

Keep in mind that all picks will be drawn at random. RAW will draw from the SmackDown! roster. SmackDown! will draw from the RAW roster.

All RAW & SmackDown! Superstars can be drafted, including Champions, Divas, announcers and general managers. Everyone is eligible to be drafted.

General Managers are allowed to trade until Midnight on June 30th.
 
Sorry Brian misunderstood what you meant... but yes it's 5 total for each.

I feel kind of bad for the guys who are going to Smackdown... that show is a sinking ship.

Being moved to Fridays says it all.... stick a fork in it.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Apparently after the Draft lottery is over, they can still do some trading back and forth, which if true, is when I'd expect to see the lower card guys/jobbers get traded.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
good move. There was no one left for Benoit to feud with on Raw.. he had run through the entire main event roster, and now he can get some fresh feuds going (well, not fresh per se, but a few years removed from them) Im going to miss seeing Benoit on Mondays though... I just wish he and Shelton got the chance to put together a mini-feud.

BTW, Vengence is going to have a killer card. I bet we will see both the WWE and WHC belts on the line. Also, they need to promo a clash of the champions match... while they are still on the same show. Who cares if they are both faces.. both of them are hugely over and you can end it with a run in with Batista and Cena teaming up to destroy whoever comes out.

One of the titles has to head back to SD! though.. either Cena or Batista is headed to SD, or they will drop the belt to someone who is (Christian? HHH? Y2J?)
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
StoOgE said:
good move. There was no one left for Benoit to feud with on Raw.. he had run through the entire main event roster, and now he can get some fresh feuds going (well, not fresh per se, but a few years removed from them) Im going to miss seeing Benoit on Mondays though... I just wish he and Shelton got the chance to put together a mini-feud.

BTW, Vengence is going to have a killer card. I bet we will see both the WWE and WHC belts on the line. Also, they need to promo a clash of the champions match... while they are still on the same show. Who cares if they are both faces.. both of them are hugely over and you can end it with a run in with Batista and Cena teaming up to destroy whoever comes out.

One of the titles has to head back to SD! though.. either Cena or Batista is headed to SD, or they will drop the belt to someone who is (Christian? HHH? Y2J?)

I don't know; I still think Cena is going back at the end. Someone even said that they saw an ad after RAW advertising a house show in their area, and John Cena was featured. This is for sometime next month BTW.

Glad to see
Benoit (now he can go after the title once again)
back on SD!, but that's not as big a pick as Cena was. Even Teddy Long coming out and saying the winner or loser of the Hell In A Cell match was going to be on SD! would have been better.

Smackdown! needs more guys than RAW does IMO. I hope to see Jericho sent over there too. And send Edge's dumb ass back there. Kane's pretty stale now as well; put him on SD! and bring over Carlito, Undertaker, and Big Show in their places.
 

Penguin

Member
Yes, I think that Benoit going to SmackDown while not a big a move as Cena to Raw is a better deal. I mean as of right now with no Cena on the roster, it is pretty heel-sided, but now Benoit could be a top face. Benoit vs JBL... Benoit vs Angle (again)... Benoit vs heel eddie... heck Benoit vs Carlito... it could be good...

On the other hand if Cena sticks around Raw, you know he will feud with Triple H for an eternity
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Penguin said:
Yes, I think that Benoit going to SmackDown while not a big a move as Cena to Raw is a better deal. I mean as of right now with no Cena on the roster, it is pretty heel-sided, but now Benoit could be a top face. Benoit vs JBL... Benoit vs Angle (again)... Benoit vs heel eddie... heck Benoit vs Carlito... it could be good...

On the other hand if Cena sticks around Raw, you know he will feud with Triple H for an eternity

They need more than just
Benoit
for their face roles. At least one, if not two, more guys.

I found this at PWtorch:

"WWE has already moved John Cena to the "Raw Superstar" page at WWE.com. They also note that the WWE Championship is a "Raw Championship" since he brought the belt with him. Smackdown has Orlando Jordan listed as its top champion now. Expect a panic reaction on this week's Smackdown as Michael Cole, Tazz, and Teddy Long bemoan the loss of Cena, depending on who they pick up in the "random lottery." If it's someone like Rosey or Maven, they may not be thrilled. [Thanks to PWTorch.com reader Adam Lebow]"

Interesting; makes you wonder if Cena really IS going to be permanent, and that Smackdown! will elevate the U.S. Championship as the top belt, maybe brining back the European Championship as its "intercontinental" belt. But then why have two champs on RAW?

Hmm...perhaps Triple H winning the belt at the PPV and then jumping with it to Smackdown! (or Batista retaining and doing the same) really is likely now.

But Cena is still on for July SD! house shows.
 
Cena's going back. The way he made Bischoff feel like a douche after Bischoff was all excited about Cena being on Raw gives it away. Over the month, Bischoff will get tired of him and find a way to trade him back.
 

Penguin

Member
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Cena's going back. The way he made Bischoff feel like a douche after Bischoff was all excited about Cena being on Raw gives it away. Over the month, Bischoff will get tired of him and find a way to trade him back.

That might be a nice way to play it. Get Cena over more with the crowd as a rebel. And maybe give some exposure to SmackDown for people who only watch Raw.. of course.. doubt WWE think that way
 

the_geche

Member
I still say Cena stays on Raw now. He is clearly headed for an echelon of stardom that Smackdown in its current state can not bring him...

You can tell Cena is the next big thing just by his interaction with Bischoff. That was on some Rock/Stone Cold type shit. Batista is not on Cena's level at all. Smackdown got screwed though because there is no person on the roster that can take Cena's spot on the show.

I think Batista is going to go to Smackdowna and HHH will stay on RAW. That way he gets to piggy back on all of the hype that Cena is getting. Also he can stick around the main event because there is a new champ and there will be new matchups. Smackdown is moving to Friday and I can't see HHH going to a dying show. Batista is gonna get the shitty end of the stick on this one.

I see HHH vs Cena having a long feud and a match at Summerslam...
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
the_geche said:
I still say Cena stays on Raw now. He is clearly headed for an echelon of stardom that Smackdown in its current state can not bring him...

You can tell Cena is the next big thing just by his interaction with Bischoff. That was on some Rock/Stone Cold type shit. Batista is not on Cena's level at all. Smackdown got screwed though because there is no person on the roster that can take Cena's spot on the show.

I think Batista is going to go to Smackdowna and HHH will stay on RAW. That way he gets to piggy back on all of the hype that Cena is getting. Also he can stick around the main event because there is a new champ and there will be new matchups. Smackdown is moving to Friday and I can't see HHH going to a dying show. Batista is gonna get the shitty end of the stick on this one.

I see HHH vs Cena having a long feud and a match at Summerslam...


wash out your mouth with soap now!

HHH is not touching Cena. If you don't remember, HHH down played the WWE title so many times, it's the IC belt in his eyes. HHH sees the World Title as the real belt. I bet Batista and HHH are going to Smackdown now.
 

Syckx

Member
I really like the way they are booking the ECW angle. Given that, if Raven doesn't come back I will be very upset.
 

the_geche

Member
jobber said:
wash out your mouth with soap now!

HHH is not touching Cena. If you don't remember, HHH down played the WWE title so many times, it's the IC belt in his eyes. HHH sees the World Title as the real belt. I bet Batista and HHH are going to Smackdown now.
I know where your'e comming from but consider the following:
1. When have the WWE writers ever cared about continuity in thier storylines?

AND

2. Its pretty much a given that the WWE wants Cena to be the next Rock or SCSA. Well the was the main guy riding on the coattails of these stars to cement his own place in the main event? HHH. With that being said who else can Cena beating legitimately on either Raw or Smackdown elevate him to this echelon like HHH (in the writer's eyes that is)?
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
I would say someone like Benoit or even Batista. Trips is going to go over Cena if it's not a Wrestlemania type match. He has to break Flair's record before he starts jobbing left and right.
 

Nameless

Member
Batista is not a good champ IMO, I'm glad HHH will likey beat him....I'm thinking......rather hoping, that A match will be booked between Cena and Christian for vengence, but Christian gets drafted to SD right after but like the world title match the bout its "lottery protected" and must go on..Someone from SD(JBL maybe) costs Cena the belt(so their show will have a champ) Christian goes over..Feuds with Benoit, then maybe Booker, then someone else..Drops it to a Face Kurt Angle(USA vs Canada)who keeps the title until WM22 when he squares off against "The Legend Killer" Randy Orton who also gets drafted to SD..(Kurt is no doubt a legend..and this would be a great feud).

On the Raw side HHH of course goes over on Batista he keeps the belt until WM22 where he loses it to Royal Rumble winner John Cena..Bischoff and Cena start this Austin/McMahon type thing where Bischoff doesn't view Cena as a respectable champion to represent the brand, and tries to hold him down.
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Nameless said:
Batista is not a good champ IMO, I'm glad HHH will likey beat him....I'm thinking......rather hoping, that A match will be booked between Cena and Christian for vengence, but Christian gets drafted to SD right after but like the world title match the bout its "lottery protected" and must go on..Someone from SD(JBL maybe) costs Cena the belt(so their show will have a champ) Christian goes over..Feuds with Benoit, then maybe Booker, then someone else..Drops it to a Face Kurt Angle(USA vs Canada)who keeps the title until WM22 when he squares off against "The Legend Killer" Randy Orton who also gets drafted to SD..(Kurt is no doubt a legend..and this would be a great feud).

On the Raw side HHH of course goes over on Batista he keeps the belt until WM22 where he loses it to Royal Rumble winner John Cena..Bischoff and Cena start this Austin/McMahon type thing where Bischoff doesn't view Cena as a respectable champion to represent the brand, and tries to hold him down.


Good ideas, BUT you got the Randy Orton factor.

You know he's going to jump in the title picture on either brand, but he has to get revenge on Batista first! Also you forget Trips seasonal dropping of the belt in November/December (See HBK in 02 and Goldberg 03)

I don't think Cena is going through that Royal Rumble route anyway. It's too predictable.
 

Nameless

Member
jobber said:
Good ideas, BUT you got the Randy Orton factor.

You know he's going to jump in the title picture on either brand, but he has to get revenge on Batista first! Also you forget Trips seasonal dropping of the belt in November/December (See HBK in 02 and Goldberg 03)

I don't think Cena is going through that Royal Rumble route anyway. It's too predictable.


Well Honestly I see Batista going to SD as well...Smackdown gets Batista, Orton,Christian, and Benoit... Raw Gets Cena,Eddie,Show, and someone else. Batista feuds with someone like Matt Morgan or Taker upon coming to SD, and then JBL going into Summerslam...Orton comes back at around Survivor series(around the time Christian would also drop the belt to Angle) feuds with Batista...

The WWE has liked to keep atleast one main title on a person long term..So i see HHH having a JBL type run where he keeps the title for damn near a year, feuds with Show, Edge(money in the bank), Eddie possibly(he can go face anytime) possibly HBK again who knows.
 
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