VistraNorrez
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Nothing is canon but the films. That is just the way it is, it doesn't matter if it is good or not. Lucas wanted to tell the story of Anakin Skywalker and his family, he did that. The rest is just bonus.
VistraNorrez said:Nothing is canon but the films. That is just the way it is, it doesn't matter if it is good or not. Lucas wanted to tell the story of Anakin Skywalker and his family, he did that. The rest is just bonus.
ironically I think the dialogue of ROTJ is absolute shit. even the usual saving grace (vader and solo) get shit for lines in ROTJ. Not only do they get shit for lines but I geuninely hate solo in the entire movie because you can tell that ford is just mailing the shit in. there is seriously not one scene with solo in ROTJ that I like. Is he still the man in the saga? hell yeah.. but in ROTJ he was just a joke. leia characterwise was always just a joke in the OT. She was best in ESB, but was made better by Ford actually doing a great job in the movie. Luke in ROTJ was fine whenever he was moving the vader element forward. but when he was with his friends it was dumb.Tim the Wiz said:Return of the Jedi, while sporting the Ewoks, at least had reasonable dialogue and good pacing. But for the most part it was a fun movie (besides the last 30 min with Darth Vader, Luke and the Emperor), and at being a fun movie it succeeded extremely well.
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Cool, Hayden brought his little brother to the premier.
In one of the most eagerly awaited and widely hyped film releases in years, "Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith" was due to have its gala premiere late on Sunday at the Cannes Film Festival in southern France.
At an early press screening in the packed Grand Theatre Lumiere, hundreds of fans and journalists cheered and clapped afterwards, some expressing surprise at the darkness of the portrayal of Anakin Skywalker's transformation into Darth Vader.
"I was quite surprised, because it's much deeper than his previous films," said one woman as she left the cinema.
One reporter said he felt "empty" after seeing the film. Because it was bad? "No, because it is over."
In Cannes, applause broke out when he took his first, sinister breaths through the respirator, taking people back to 1977 when Vader first towered over audiences.
Actor Samuel L. Jackson, who plays Mace Windu in the latest trilogy, said Sith would change the way we looked at Vader.
"We used to see him as just pure evil, because we didn't know that much about him," he told Reuters in Cannes.
"Now we know how he got to this particular place, so he seems more the tragic figure than an evil figure now."
Teh Hamburglar said:?????
DMczaf said:And wtf, I wake up this morning and Star Wars Episode 1 is on Fox. Did Fox have a hole in the schedule and just threw a SW in there? :lol
And it looks like Lucas himself seems to think so tooCannes audiences made blunt comparisons between "Revenge of the Sith" the story of Anakin Skywalker's fall to the dark side and the rise of an emperor through warmongering to President Bush's war on terrorism and the invasion of Iraq.
Two lines from the movie especially resonated:
"This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause," bemoans Padme Amidala (Natalie Portman) as the galactic Senate cheers dictator-in-waiting Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) while he announces a crusade against the Jedi.
"If you're not with me, then you're my enemy," Hayden Christensen's Anakin soon to become villain Darth Vader tells former mentor Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ewan McGregor). The line echoes Bush's international ultimatum after the Sept. 11 attacks, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
"That quote is almost a perfect citation of Bush," said Liam Engle, a 23-year-old French-American aspiring filmmaker. "Plus, you've got a politician trying to increase his power to wage a phony war."
Lucas said he patterned his story after historical transformations from freedom to fascism, never figuring when he started his prequel trilogy in the late 1990s that current events might parallel his space fantasy.
"As you go through history, I didn't think it was going to get quite this close. So it's just one of those recurring things," Lucas said at a Cannes news conference. "I hope this doesn't come true in our country.
"Maybe the film will waken people to the situation," Lucas joked.
That comment echoes Moore's rhetoric at Cannes last year, when his anti-Bush documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" won the festival's top honor.
Unlike Moore, whose Cannes visit came off like an anybody-but-Bush campaign stop, Lucas never mentioned the president by name but was eager to speak his mind on U.S. policy in Iraq, careful again to note that he created the story long before the Bush-led occupation there.
"When I wrote it, Iraq didn't exist," Lucas said, laughing.
"We were just funding Saddam Hussein and giving him weapons of mass destruction. We didn't think of him as an enemy at that time. We were going after Iran and using him as our surrogate, just as we were doing in Vietnam. ... The parallels between what we did in Vietnam and what we're doing in Iraq now are unbelievable."
The prequel trilogy is based on a back-story outline Lucas created in the mid-1970s for the original three "Star Wars" movies, so the themes percolated out of the Vietnam War and the Nixon-Watergate era, he said.
Lucas began researching how democracies can turn into dictatorships with full consent of the electorate.
In ancient Rome, "why did the senate after killing Caesar turn around and give the government to his nephew?" Lucas said. "Why did France after they got rid of the king and that whole system turn around and give it to Napoleon? It's the same thing with Germany and Hitler.
"You sort of see these recurring themes where a democracy turns itself into a dictatorship, and it always seems to happen kind of in the same way, with the same kinds of issues, and threats from the outside, needing more control. A democratic body, a senate, not being able to function properly because everybody's squabbling, there's corruption."
Boogie9IGN said:This 'omg ROTS is anti-Bush' shit needs to stfu
Who gives a crap, really? This is Star Wars, not some sci-fi version of today's politics
Why do you care? Entertainment has always been used as a vessel or inspiration for discussion of other aspects of the world, including politics, regardless of intention. Deal with it.Boogie9IGN said:This 'omg ROTS is anti-Bush' shit needs to stfu
Who gives a crap, really? This is Star Wars, not some sci-fi version of today's politics
DMczaf said:And wtf, I wake up this morning and Star Wars Episode 1 is on Fox. Did Fox have a hole in the schedule and just threw a SW in there? :lol
DMczaf said:Um, I know that.
Holy crap, I can't even kid around without damage control :lol
I like Star Wars, I like Natalie Portman! SEE! No hate!
Mejilan said:Question for those going to the "sneak preview" showing of RotS.
I bought my tix about a month ago, online (moviefone.com, I think) and thought they were for the Wed evening / Thursday early morning 12:30am showing. That would technically be 5/19 at 12:30am, no?
Cuz my tix say 5/18 at 12:30am. So now I'm confused. The sneak preview is actually at midnight of Tue night / Wed early morning?
This is at the NYC Times Square AMC theater, btw.
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Damn. Not very accurate either, imho. In fact, at least one of my answers directly contradicted this. Weird.
Kabuki Waq said:wednesday midnight......esssentially be at the theater wednesday 11 or so .
ManaByte said:hahahah if you want to sit in the front row, yea. Anyone who gets to the midnight showing of STAR WARS at 11:00 deserves the worst seat in the theater.
ManaByte said:hahahah if you want to sit in the front row, yea. Anyone who gets to the midnight showing of STAR WARS at 11:00 deserves the worst seat in the theater.
ManaByte said:hahahah if you want to sit in the front row, yea. Anyone who gets to the midnight showing of STAR WARS at 11:00 deserves the worst seat in the theater.
Ristamar said:My friends and I will probably end up getting to the theater around 7 or 8, then taking shifts holding our place in line.
In one of the most eagerly awaited and widely hyped film releases in years, George Lucas' "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith" had a glittering red carpet premiere in Cannes, complete with Darth Vader and stormtrooper look-alikes.
Even though "Sith," which cost $115 million to make, is not in competition in Cannes, all other events were forgotten as the famed waterfront ground to a halt to mark a cinematic milestone.
Hundreds of screaming fans surged to touch hands with Lucas and Natalie Portman, who plays Padme Amidala in the second trilogy. The day was one of emotion as well as glamour, with more than a few tears shed among audiences who watched the film.
Die-hard British fans paid up to 250 pounds ($464) per ticket to attend an all-day showing on Monday of the six episodes back-to-back. The 501st UK Garrison of Stormtroopers will be there to open the doors at a central London cinema from 6 a.m.