Official Week 11 NFL Thread: Purple Jesus Memorial Edition

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Lefty said:
new power rankings are up:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/11/11/week10/2.html
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From the Foxsports rankings:

Eli Manning has now lost four straight meetings with Romo, as the Giants sunk to 6-3 with the loss.
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Romo has played three and a half games against the Giants and the Cowboys lost the first one (or half of one).
 
iapetus said:
Then why do you think he'll suddenly develop the ability to follow a devious and complex game plan such as the one you're suggesting? He hasn't managed it yet, and I don't see it suddenly manifesting itself this week. You'd have to be some sort of football wunderkind to come up with the stunning idea that if you've got one of the best running backs to play the game in a long time you should maybe give him the ball once or twice. It's a bold scheme - some might say foolhardy - and I don't think he's got it in him to take that huge step into the unknown. Winning games by getting the ball to your best player? That's communist thinking, son.
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Touche, but at some point you would think someone who gives a flying fark about the Chargers would send Norv a memo that LT might be a good person to get involved in the offense as much as humanly possible.
 
NO @ HOU
KC @ IND
OAK @ MIN
NYG @ DET
MIA @ PHI
SD @ JAC
ARI @ CIN
CLE @ BAL
CAR @ GB
TB @ ATL

PIT @ NYJ
CHI @ SEA
WAS @ DAL
STL @ SF

NE @ BUF

TEN @ DEN
 
tapedeck said:
Touche, but at some point you would think someone who gives a flying fark about the Chargers would send Norv a memo that LT might be a good person to get involved in the offense as much as humanly possible.
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I think that already happened. Now they're trying to teach him to read. I'm pretty confident it'll take longer than a week.
 
NO @ HOU
KC @ IND
OAK @ MIN
NYG @ DET
MIA @ PHI
SD @ JAC
ARI @ CIN
CLE @ BAL
CAR @ GB
TB @ ATL
PIT @ NYJ
CHI @ SEA
WAS @ DAL
STL @ SF
NE @ BUF
TEN @ DEN
 
Flizzzipper said:
Freeney the latest injury victim, Simeon Rice signed :lol

I'll take the Jags and the points over the Chargers.
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was he injured to start the game? I saw Gates block him one on one a couple of times and couldn't figure out why that was going on.
 
There should be a new rule: If no team in a division finishes with a winning record, that division forfeits its playoff spot which becomes a third wild card for the rest of the conference.

Yes, I'm looking at you, AFC West and NFC West.
 
already preparing for a late season Redskins collapse? It's not over yet!
 
levious said:
already preparing for a late season Redskins collapse? It's not over yet!
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Heh, not sure I'd call it late....week 12 sounds about right. :lol Of course, considering we've lost 3 starting positions for the season and another half-dozen or so for at least 2 games each....combined with a QB who only just completed his first statistical NFL season (16 games, 57% completion, 19 TD 13 INT, 77 QB Rating), I'm now wondering how the hell we made it to 5-4--in the toughest division in the NFL.

Anyway, if we do make it I hope it's as the #5 seed so we can take advantage of the free Wild Card bye week (against the NFC West division champion) and make the divisional playoffs.
 
levious said:
hey, just like Romo!


sorry


GO NFC EAST!
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Hey, gotta give credit where credit is due. I've said since I first saw Romo that he's a good QB and exactly what Dallas needed. He's like Vince Young, except that he's actually--good. :lol The team is a much more motivated and happier team, even in losing, with Romo behind center. And much as it pains me to say it, Dallas fans are in for some postseason success over the next few seasons.

That said, I'm open to any avatar bets Cowgirls fans want to offer for this week's game! :D
Or even better, 1-week ban bets!
 
The only power rankings that count:

Code: 
1 	NE 	73.2% 	1 	68.6% 	9-0 	48.5% 	1 	-18.5% 	3 	6.3% 	5
2 	IND 	42.1% 	2 	34.6% 	7-2 	30.6% 	2 	-17.4% 	4 	-6.0% 	31
3 	DAL 	41.6% 	3 	39.0% 	8-1 	28.3% 	3 	-12.8% 	6 	0.5% 	14
4 	PIT 	32.8% 	4 	39.1% 	7-2 	12.6% 	9 	-23.8% 	2 	-3.6% 	25
5 	GB 	23.7% 	7 	28.3% 	8-1 	17.0% 	4 	-6.4% 	9 	0.2% 	15
6 	TB 	18.1% 	6 	13.1% 	5-4 	15.5% 	6 	-4.5% 	12 	-2.0% 	18
7 	SD 	14.7% 	13 	8.5% 	5-4 	0.3% 	16 	-5.1% 	11 	9.3% 	1
8 	JAC 	13.8% 	9 	11.0% 	6-3 	10.6% 	10 	0.5% 	15 	3.7% 	9
9 	SEA 	12.1% 	10 	21.9% 	5-4 	-1.1% 	18 	-5.5% 	10 	7.7% 	2
10 	TEN 	11.2% 	5 	11.6% 	6-3 	-11.0% 	25 	-25.6% 	1 	-3.5% 	24
11 	NYG 	6.7% 	11 	9.8% 	6-3 	7.6% 	12 	-3.8% 	13 	-4.7% 	29
12 	CLE 	5.3% 	15 	-0.5% 	5-4 	13.3% 	8 	15.3% 	27 	7.3% 	3
13 	PHI 	4.9% 	12 	2.9% 	4-5 	15.9% 	5 	8.1% 	22 	-2.9% 	22
14 	WAS 	3.3% 	14 	-4.7% 	5-4 	-4.9% 	22 	-7.4% 	8 	0.9% 	13
15 	MIN 	2.6% 	8 	0.9% 	3-6 	2.5% 	15 	1.6% 	16 	1.7% 	11
16 	CIN 	-0.3% 	17 	3.5% 	3-6 	15.5% 	7 	14.9% 	26 	-0.9% 	16
17 	BUF 	-2.4% 	16 	-6.1% 	5-4 	-9.1% 	23 	0.0% 	14 	6.7% 	4
18 	ARI 	-3.3% 	21 	4.5% 	4-5 	-2.8% 	19 	1.8% 	17 	1.4% 	12
19 	DEN 	-6.0% 	24 	-8.3% 	4-5 	6.3% 	13 	11.1% 	23 	-1.2% 	17
20 	BAL 	-9.8% 	20 	-5.4% 	4-5 	-22.6% 	29 	-15.4% 	5 	-2.6% 	21
21 	NO 	-12.4% 	19 	-13.0% 	4-5 	8.7% 	11 	16.6% 	29 	-4.6% 	28
22 	DET 	-13.8% 	18 	-4.1% 	6-3 	-4.0% 	20 	3.5% 	20 	-6.2% 	32
23 	HOU 	-14.4% 	23 	-11.7% 	4-5 	-0.8% 	17 	15.3% 	28 	1.8% 	10
24 	KC 	-16.4% 	22 	-11.8% 	4-5 	-22.6% 	30 	-8.2% 	7 	-2.0% 	19
25 	ATL 	-17.6% 	26 	-7.4% 	3-6 	-10.1% 	24 	5.1% 	21 	-2.4% 	20
26 	MIA 	-19.8% 	28 	-28.5% 	0-9 	2.5% 	14 	18.6% 	31 	-3.7% 	26
27 	CAR 	-20.4% 	25 	-15.1% 	4-5 	-12.9% 	26 	2.1% 	18 	-5.4% 	30
28 	CHI 	-20.7% 	27 	-17.2% 	4-5 	-24.0% 	31 	2.1% 	19 	5.4% 	7
29 	NYJ 	-25.6% 	29 	-27.9% 	1-8 	-4.8% 	21 	26.9% 	32 	6.2% 	6
30 	STL 	-34.0% 	31 	-34.9% 	1-8 	-16.7% 	27 	13.4% 	25 	-4.0% 	27
31 	OAK 	-35.3% 	30 	-28.1% 	2-7 	-19.1% 	28 	13.1% 	24 	-3.1% 	23
32 	SF 	-51.6% 	32 	-46.0% 	2-7 	-38.0% 	32 	17.8% 	30 	4.2% 	8

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2007/11/13/ramblings/dvoa-ratings/5752/
 
ESPN said:
The Seahawks have clear sailing to the NFC West title. Of their remaining seven games, none -- yes, none -- are against teams with winning records. Beating Arizona on Dec. 9 will be key in case the tiebreaker comes into play.
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I'll take it!
 
Slo said:
Daunte's triumphant return!
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I'm giddy with excitement as to who's going to get the start!

LOL-P Past returns to his old stomping ground?
McClown continues to show he sucks?
A-Walt Future tries to save his career?
J-Russ Real True Future gets the snot kicked out of him because his holdout retarded his development?
 
this is the week the dolphins win. the rams already won and they are playing the eagles who seem to win 1 and then lose the next one.

count on it.

the eagles think they somehow saved this terrible season by beating the redskins and will come out flat and too confident.
 
levious said:
was he injured to start the game? I saw Gates block him one on one a couple of times and couldn't figure out why that was going on.
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I don't know, he had some nagging injury all season but still played. They are saying he could be out all season, which is about what I expected since they actually claimed Rice off waivers.
 
Karakand said:
I'm giddy with excitement as to who's going to get the start!

LOL-P Past returns to his old stomping ground?
McClown continues to show he sucks?
A-Walt Future tries to save his career?
J-Russ Real True Future gets the snot kicked out of him because his holdout retarded his development?
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Uh...fixed
 
Gigglepoo said:
More importantly, I realize who the QB is.
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Did you mean Philip Rivers is good? Serious question I can't tell if theres sarcasm or not.

ESPNpowerankings said:
Eli Manning is just not as good a quarterback as Tony Romo
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Did they watch the game or just look at the stats? Romo had all day to pass with healthy receivers, compared to Eli under pressure constantly (including the int off his arm getting hit midthrow) and an injured, not playing 100% plax.
 
Milabrega said:
Did you mean Philip Rivers is good? Serious question I can't tell if theres sarcasm or not.
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No, I think he's lousy. I have been ripping that fool for quite some time. They should just give LT the ball 30 times a game (runs, catches and throws combined) and go back to an attacking defense. The players are there damnit! I have to watch my team limp through another season with inadequate talent while another team is just squandering what they have. It's maddening!

soulja224466 said:
god i hope the rams dont lose to san fran
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Honestly, the Rams should beat the Niners handily. It's actually more embarrassing to lose to the Niners than the Rams at this point. Or it would be if the 49ers could win a game.
 
Adrian Peterson is old news already. Hell, the Bears already have an Adrian Peterson running back on the roster too! He isn't that special!

Whom is special is Rexy! And he is back and ready to steal all your women in a town near you! First stop, Seattle!
 
Milabrega said:
Did they watch the game or just look at the stats? Romo had all day to pass with healthy receivers, compared to Eli under pressure constantly (including the int off his arm getting hit midthrow) and an injured, not playing 100% plax.
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So yeah, can we stop this nonsense that the Giants D-Line is capable of pressuring Brady? If they could hardly pressure Romo, no way Brady gets even touched.
 
NO @ HOU 1:00 PM
KC @ IND 1:00 PM
OAK @ MIN 1:00 PM
NYG @ DET 1:00 PM
MIA @ PHI 1:00 PM
SD @ JAC 1:00 PM
ARI @ CIN 1:00 PM
CLE @ BAL 1:00 PM
CAR @ GB 1:00 PM
TB @ ATL 1:00 PM

PIT @ NYJ 4:05 PM
CHI @ SEA 4:15 PM
WAS @ DAL 4:15 PM
STL @ SF 4:15 PM

NE @ BUF 8:15 PM

Monday, November 19th
TEN @ DEN 8:30 PM
 
Quick fantasy question:

Should I start Jon Kitna this weekend(vs. Giants) or should I go with Matt Schaub(vs. NO)?

Obviously the NO secondary is one of the worst in the league but I'm still not to sold on Schaub yet and he is coming off that concussion...
 
first off there is no way in fuck we are beating the rams. infact, i don't feel confident about winning another game this year. i think we WILL win another game on some bogus fluke performance, but going into the game i will predict we lose.
 
woodchuck said:
So yeah, can we stop this nonsense that the Giants D-Line is capable of pressuring Brady? If they could hardly pressure Romo, no way Brady gets even touched.
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Did you see the Pats/Colts game and see how Freeney and Mathis were able to put so much pressure on Brady?

Osi/Strahan > Freeney/Mathis

That is where the talk comes from.
 
Wellington said:
Did you see the Pats/Colts game and see how Freeney and Mathis were able to put so much pressure on Brady?

Osi/Strahan > Freeney/Mathis

That is where the talk comes from.
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That's either severely underrating the Colts ends or really overrating Osi/Strahan. If Osi/Strahan are better, then Cowboys Tackles > Patriots Tackles and that's clearly not true.

I think people were just in awe after the Giants/Eagles game where Osi got 6/9 (8 if Wade gets his way) sacks. What has he done since?
 
Kastrioti said:
Quick fantasy question:

Should I start Jon Kitna this weekend(vs. Giants) or should I go with Matt Schaub(vs. NO)?

Obviously the NO secondary is one of the worst in the league but I'm still not to sold on Schaub yet and he is coming off that concussion...
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I'd probably start Kitna.

But I'm .500 in the GAF league so you might want to get a second opinion.
 
Kastrioti said:
Quick fantasy question:

Should I start Jon Kitna this weekend(vs. Giants) or should I go with Matt Schaub(vs. NO)?

Obviously the NO secondary is one of the worst in the league but I'm still not to sold on Schaub yet and he is coming off that concussion...
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I'd wait until later in the week to make that decision. Normally I'd say definitely go with Kitna, but he hasn't been playing all to well lately and Schaub is getting Andre Johnson back this week. However, both of them might still be a little banged up. Try to see if their are any reports from the Texans practices before you make up your mind.
 
Kitna has been a fantasy bust this season, imo.


By the way, this Lions/giants matchup is one of those ones that the Giants need to be more worried than everyone thinks. This is the type of shit that the Lions ALWAYS do-- lose to mediocre teams, get written off and then pop up somewhere along the line for a HUGE win that makes everyone wonder why they don't play like that every week. Look at the Detroit/ Dallas game last year.

I really believe the Lions could win this weekend. I'll wait til later in the week to decide if I'm going with the Honolulu Blue for the win though.
 
woodchuck said:
That's either severely underrating the Colts ends or really overrating Osi/Strahan. If Osi/Strahan are better, then Cowboys Tackles > Patriots Tackles and that's clearly not true.

I think people were just in awe after the Giants/Eagles game where Osi got 6/9 (8 if Wade gets his way) sacks. What has he done since?
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I was telling you why everyone else, including non-Giants fans, think it will be a better matchup.

And even though everyone says tackles play on an island, that's not a true statement on a good OLine. I said before the game was even played that the Giants DLine was going to have trouble with a line like that.

The fact of the matter is that the Dallas OLine is meant to wear down opponents with their size. A speed rusher like Osi has no chance. Strahan got closer a lot more than he did, but that's because Adams > Colombo.

That and Tony Romo is better at avoiding a sack than Brady. Read this:

And then, when you have a guy like Tony Romo, you get a different kind of animal. And it's maddening to a defense like the Giants when they send Mathias Kiwanuka and Justin Tuck into the backfield on a first-and-10 early in the fourth quarter only to come away without a sack. Romo made a sick move to juke Kiwi then got the ball away before Tuck hit him. It was an incompletion, but that's only because TE Anthony Fasano dropped the ball. That should have been a short gain, but even though it wasn't, a play like that wears on a defense because that's the one time the pass rush did everything right and still didn't make a play. The Giants aren't used to that and get frustrated when it happens.
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http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2007/11/one_last_look_back_to_dal.html#more

That's actually exactly what I saw multiple times on Sunday.
 
I'm in an 8 team fantasy football league, just for fun, and I've already clinched a playoff spot. I'm 10-0 with a stranglehold on the league :lol

what's sad is I have the passion of the Patriots. I want to crush this league and show my dominance. Nobody EVER goes undefeated in a fantasy league, and I just won with my top players on bye this week, so man... I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
Wellington said:
I was telling you why everyone else, including non-Giants fans, think it will be a better matchup.

And even though everyone says tackles play on an island, that's not a true statement on a good OLine. I said before the game was even played that the Giants DLine was going to have trouble with a line like that.

The fact of the matter is that the Dallas OLine is meant to wear down opponents with their size. A speed rusher like Osi has no chance. Strahan got closer a lot more than he did, but that's because Adams > Colombo.

That and Tony Romo is better at avoiding a sack than Brady. Read this:



http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2007/11/one_last_look_back_to_dal.html#more

That's actually exactly what I saw multiple times on Sunday.
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Flozell has been known to get beat by speed rushers. Historically, he'd much rather face guys who use their strength. If Flozell can contain Osi, Matt Light should have no problem. I just think the Pats Oline is just too good for any team that only brings 4 guys. I'm not 100% sure, but I recall 1 / 2 of the sacks on Brady being came when Matt Light was out of the game for a play or two.

I realize sacks aren't everything and you have to hurry the QB, but Brady is equally amazing at stepping up and avoiding the rush.

I think the way to beat the Pats is to bring exotic blitzes and coverages while also jamming the receivers and disrupting Brady's timing. Hopefully, Dick Lebeau can do that. I don't think you can beat Brady with the defensive line.

My memory might be off a little, but I don't think the Colts got even close to Brady in the 4th quarter.



and Romo is the #1 selling jersey currently. Brady Quinn is in the top 10 wtf.

INDIVIDUALS
1. Tony Romo (Cowboys)
2. LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers)
3. Peyton Manning (Colts)
4. Tom Brady (Patriots)
5. Brian Urlacher (Bears)
6. Brett Favre (Packers)
7. Brady Quinn (Browns)
8. Reggie Bush (Saints)
9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings)
10. Troy Polamalu (Steelers)
 
I just want to skip to week 14 to the only game that matters anymore as a Steelers fan: Fucking Steelers at New Englad.

I tingle with excitement. I better fucking get that game.
 
woodchuck said:
1. Tony Romo (Cowboys)
2. LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers)
3. Peyton Manning (Colts)
4. Tom Brady (Patriots)
5. Brian Urlacher (Bears)
6. Brett Favre (Packers)
7. Brady Quinn (Browns)
8. Reggie Bush (Saints)
9. Adrian Peterson (Vikings)
10. Troy Polamalu (Steelers)
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Oh man. I'd be so pissed if I were a Brown's fan and they moved Quinn this off-season to satisfy Anderson. :lol
 
Milabrega said:
Did they watch the game or just look at the stats? Romo had all day to pass with healthy receivers, compared to Eli under pressure constantly (including the int off his arm getting hit midthrow) and an injured, not playing 100% plax.
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Cool, so what's the excuse for the rest of Manning's average career? Also, when is Plax ever 100%? It was week 10, no one is really 100%.
 
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