Fillon is no more corrupt than the other guys. If anything, he used a look a little cleaner than the others, certainly a hell of a lot cleaner than sarkozy for example. Fillon stepping down would have been meaningless, no one credible wanted to step in.
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|OT| French Presidential Elect 2017 - La France est toujours insoumise; Le Pen loses
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
There was a terrorist attack days ago. How did it impact her vote?
Bam Bam Baklava
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You know who else is a horrible choice? Corbyn. But the far left never brings him up do they?
R_thanatos
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Edit : corrected because people will keep quoting me ad infinitium
yeah this is important; you don't have to worry about democracy being undermined by an outdated institution
On what metric?
His failure is spectacular, he wasn't helped at all but there's no denying that (and this is coming from someone that likes the person and his program a lot)
He also said he will not come back.
???
Juppé was more than ready.
Macron is closing the gap in the partial results, 23 against 23.3 for Le Pen with 70% of the votes counted. He will take the lead by the next 5%
http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html
http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html
uh she fucking crushed trump in all but one of them
Alx
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That's unfortunate for him. He had a huge opportunity and blew it (not even on his own), but it's sad to kill a whole career like that.
Two weeks from now, Sunday.
7th. May
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Anyone confident Macron will win should bet their life savings on it. If you're so sure, there is no risk.
benjipwns
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Hey, run "TBA" they always poll better than actual candidates!
He faced it, he just didn't win it.
Bam Bam Baklava
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What we didn't account for is that Americans love hearing that shit. France probably ain't falling for that type of rhetoric.
I didn't vote for him, but I'm glad Poutou gets to talk. He has convictions. He does represents some people. Duflot? Yeah, fuck duflot.
Got betrayed by his own party, where some key people (Valls espacially) went with Macron.
whyamihere
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I feel like people don't understand how polls and elections work
Bam Bam Baklava
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Or bet on Le Pen and win LOTS of money because her odds reflect her terrible chances.
According to who? Your ass?
He was talking about Le Pen and the french election...
And_Gignac
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Lets hope the liberal option doesnt miserably fail like Clinton did.
R_thanatos
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Sorry i was confused i thought you were talking about lepen.
Bam Bam Baklava
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The entire thread of discussion is about Clinton.
benjipwns
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As long as the Berniebros don't vote 100% for Le Pen like they did Trump amirite
Many of the urban areas will declare later so Macron is looking good to finish in 1st. A nice kick in the teeth for Le Pen and her shower of scum.
Juppé wanted nothing to do with plan B.
Alx
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Yeah that was the schtick of MLP's father and the reason why he never got more than 20% support from the population. The smart move from MLP was precisely to cut (hide) all that stuff from the FN official speech.
I hope no one is actually saying that.
George Washington
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It was minor and did very little if you go by the polls.
Just the fact that it's down to Macron and Le Pen has set the stage for her to take advantage of any future attack. This election will be decided by the moderates. Swing voters are the most disastrous in any election.
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Also, the fact that she has made it this far should be setting off alarms. We unfortunately, in the U.S., didn't take Trump seriously until it was too late.
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Very troubling that she's #2 and beat the more moderate candidates.
R_thanatos
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Bam Bam Baklava
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Given the polling indicates Corbyn is not just going to lose, but lose in a historically bad way, I'd say he should be praying to lose only as badly as Clinton...who won the popular vote.
The string of discussion you quoted is clearly talking about Clinton.
looking back, i can see how that happened. anyways, it was just some wires getting crossed; no worries
Huh? Hamon never said he wasn't coming back, at least not during his speech. All he said was that he and the PS had failed, and that he was supporting Macron for now even though he doesn't reprresent the left.
Green Yoshi
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Corbyn represents the labour party of the 1980s but compared to Melenchon he is a center left candiate. I don't think that he can win against Theresa May though.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Learning all the wrong lessons from polling and 2016 is not learning at all.
Palette Swap
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It's time she learned what a bunch of savages we are.
actually, if you trace the quotes back a little ways, ac30 mentioned both le pen and hillary in his post
the confusion stems from there, i think
Alx
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Lol, so I guess it's her first contact with France ever.
(don't Québécois practice the "bise" ? I always assumed they did, those I met in France didn't seem unfamiliar with it)
They're probably quoting the official numbers from the ministry that are added as they come, but large cities don't vote like the smaller ones and their results arrive last.
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