sazabirules
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Jamesfrom818 said:
No you're dumb for thinking all fans are like that because of one idiot.
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|OT| Pacquio vs Marquez III (11/12/11)
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No you're dumb for thinking all fans are like that because of one idiot.
Jamesfrom818
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sazabirules said:
Well, I should have prefaced it with "some" and not imply that all Marquez fans are belligerent idiots.
Barbacoatl
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Noshino said:
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Hahaha I saw some of the fight but I must say Marquez should have one.
I believe that my country should be humbled too. Pacquiao losing should do some humbling and punch that stupid Filipino pride. FYI, I only see two boxers fighting, but alot of the masses here think it's a fight of the country.
I believe that my country should be humbled too. Pacquiao losing should do some humbling and punch that stupid Filipino pride. FYI, I only see two boxers fighting, but alot of the masses here think it's a fight of the country.
IC_Champion
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TheNatural said:
I agree with you. Boxing has changed and not all for the better. I think that is most fight fans are switching over to MMA because of interesting fights not happening and the long time it takes for the fight to happen.
There's always Cotto-Margarito 2.
Meh, fell asleep before the fight, but I thought Marquez had won the 2nd fight too (and was f'n surprised by that decision), so not really surprised by this. (and I'm Filipino fwiw).
Gonna watch it now.
Also should be fun to hear from my cousin who flew into Vegas from NY to attend the fight.
Gonna watch it now.
Also should be fun to hear from my cousin who flew into Vegas from NY to attend the fight.
childplease
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X26 said:
I coulda swore it was Mayweather running away from the big fight.
TheKaeptain
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Lol Bob has you fooled.gibon3z said:
SSGMUN10000
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I had Marquez winning by at least 2 rounds. He landed the more telling shots and the better combos on Manny. It freaking sucks that he still was not able to get the decision. He should have known this and should have been more aggressive in the championship rounds. Besides the Tim Bradley fight and the bs decision at the end it was a really good night of boxing. Hate to make the comparisons but we had tuned in to the Cain fight for however long it lasted and these guys looked so amateurish in comparison.
Larson Conway
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Just want to put it out there: I'm a proud Filipino, raised in the Philippines, and a big supporter of Pac, but even I think JMM won the fight. It's one thing to have Filipino pride, it's another to be rational and logical, w/o clout of emotion.
SonicX_Zero
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Definitely agree with this, not to mention it'll be all over the news tomorrow. -sigh-Ookami-kun said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ
What the fuck.
Floyd toying with Marquez easily.
I doubt Pacman can beat Mayweather now.
What the fuck.
Floyd toying with Marquez easily.
I doubt Pacman can beat Mayweather now.
Boss Doggie
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SonicX_Zero said:
Yeah sadly. =/
Good to know that I've seen some other Filipino bloggers and even regular folk who think Marquez should've won though.
Radec said:
Marquez went a respectable 12 rounds with Mayweather, and had no experience with him like he had with Pacquiao. Also, Marquez's training regimen for the Pacquiao fight was to his admittance, his most strenuous yet.
I think Mayweather would beat Pacquiao, though it would be a good fight. It only took one day for internet boxing pseudo-scientists to go from 'Manny and Mayweather would be an intense and close fight' to 'Manny would get murdered!'
I don't know why people say that JMM showed the way to beat Pacman in this fight, he showed it in their second fight. IMO JMM was robbed in that fight, too.
Either JMM is the worst matchup for Pacman, or Pacman gets exposed against expert counterattacking boxers. Me thinks it's the ladder. If I were PBF I would take the fight in a heartbeat now.
Either JMM is the worst matchup for Pacman, or Pacman gets exposed against expert counterattacking boxers. Me thinks it's the ladder. If I were PBF I would take the fight in a heartbeat now.
Error said:
Do people think there's just a big conspiracy against Marquez, that whatever panel of judges he gets, Pacquiao somehow has them in their pocket?
Like, what's going on? Marquez's salt is unbearable. Post-fight interview threatening retirement because "even if i dropped Manny, they'd say I lost."
Get real.
Kinky John
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I closed VLC at the end of the twelfth thinking the result was a mere formality, then, 5 minutes later, I see "Pacquiao defends his controversial victory" on the sports section of BBC News. This was me...
Jamesfrom818
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So you're basing your opinion of the fight on a low quality stream.Bobby Truffles said:I closed VLC at the end of the twelfth thinking the result was a mere formality, then, 5 minutes later, I see "Pacquiao defends his controversial victory" on the sports section of BBC News. This was me...
Buzzati said:
The reason why it only took this fight for everyone to say that is because it just put Manny's weaknesses out in the open. Before everyone used to blame it on inexperience and a bunch of other stuff, but now? I mean, in theory Manny should have ruled the ring. Better body, better stamina, better speed, no reach disadvantage.... but Marquez was almost playing with him, setting the pace/timing of the fight as if he was the defender rather than the challenger.
Like others have said, if I was Mayweather, I would schedule the fight as soon as possible. The Manny of last night would have had no chance of beating Mayweather.
Kinky John
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Jamesfrom818 said:
No. I downloaded a decent quality version.
Noshino said:
Setting the pace of the fight? What? Marquez's main tactic was to issue counters after Pacquiao's combinations. There isn't a person on the planet who saw the fight and didn't think Manny was the aggressor. Aggressors set the pace of the fight, not turtlers.
For someone who was playing with Manny, he really gave up those last rounds.
aktham said:
Just saying what? That the judges were threatened by the fact that people bet against Marquez and felt pressure to vote in favor of him. Did you know judges deal with this exact scenario every single time they get up to go to work. What specific criticisms do you have with blogs and magazines that credit Pacquiao with the win for actual reasons? Did anyone here read them?
In boxing there's a concept called 'ring generalship'. You see the aggressor as the only one controlling the fight. Marquez was the matador to the bull. He blocked and avoided most of what Pac threw while landing the counters. If you're giving rounds to manny on aggression, then it has to be effective. Causing lots of damage with the hits landed, or keeping a guy wary or on his bike, etc. Manny did not boss Marquez. He ran into tons of punches. He did not dictate the pace of the fight. Honestly he looked lost in a lot of those rounds.Buzzati said:
Buzzati said:
Almost every single many on that list is a world champion. and the rest are rankers or prospects. And shitty little quips about what language they're speaking is not necessary.
Buzzati's posts: where you don't know how to score boxing rounds, and assume that there's good blood between all mexican fighters. Morales and Marquez for example have always been standoffish because of contract signing issues. And Juan Diaz got his ass whipped by Marquez twice.Buzzati said:
SSGMUN10000
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This is my new top 5 pound for pound.
1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Pac
4. Martinez
5. Donaire
Previously had Pac at 1 and Mayweather at 2.
1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Pac
4. Martinez
5. Donaire
Previously had Pac at 1 and Mayweather at 2.
EschatonDX said:
And Oscar De La Hoya still maintains that Pacquiao uses illegal drugs - but ya know, he's a world champion..he has a legit opinion.
Morales was communicating with Marquez often pre-fight and was a big supporter.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/08/15/11/morales-marquez-attack-early
Keep that misinformation up, though.
(I know how to score boxing rounds. If you took the 18-0 quote literally, you have bigger problems than not understanding people on message boards.)
NervousXtian
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I was pissed last night, and more pissed this morning.
8-4 JMM
Outright robbery.
I'm gutted for JMM... and I expected him to be stopped within 6 rounds prior to the fight.
8-4 JMM
Outright robbery.
I'm gutted for JMM... and I expected him to be stopped within 6 rounds prior to the fight.
I wonder, who picks up the cash he throws when the camera is not rolling. Does he do it? or does he like..pay someone to do it.rvy said:You gonna get fucked up, Manny. You gonna get fucked.
If he just leaves it there, then I need to find out where he hangs out at.
Kitschkraft
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rvy said:You gonna get fucked up, Manny. You gonna get fucked.
No doubt in my mind today that Bob Arum is the one stopping Money/Pacquio.
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Radec said:
Yeah I don't think Pac can beat Mayweather. I rooted for Pac before, I LOVED seeing him destroy Margarito (and I really hope Cotto will beat him up), but in a May VS Pac fight, I'd have to root for Mayweather. He's the better fighter.
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