KojiKnight
Member
I just want to say thank you to the people who are buying the microtransations, you're funding my future characters and maps while I can just continue to play and unlock things in time 
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Overwatch marks a new low in Unlocking and Microtransaction systems that I'm aware of
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I don't remember RB6 having a negative thread being made about everyday. I even played a lot of RB6.
GametimeUK
Member
We live in a day and age where I'm fine with developers getting extra money. It's something I've grown to accept after losing some great studios. Yes, it may be really difficult to get all the items, but when it's all said and done, it's only cosmetic. We are getting all future upgrades and updates for free. That a very fair trade. The game is amazing too. I think this is a near perfect concept on how to get some extra money.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
I have never heard such a ridiculous complaint about a game as the one in the op.
I'm probably forgetting something but it's definitely up there.
I'm probably forgetting something but it's definitely up there.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
I just don't understand how you complain about this but not something like Black Ops 3
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
If the game wasn't $60 on consoles I know I wouldn't be so peeved at it. Should have been $30.
Gravy Boat
Member
Why should it have been $30?
Acerac
Banned
Many other Blizzard games I've played have paid me to play them, even if it were free it would be rather greedy of them IMHO.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Because the quality is better then it's f2p comps.
Azure Dream
Member
Gravy Boat
Member
I don't understand the response to my question. I ask you why it should be half price (as your post stated ) and you say because it's of better quality than its competitors?
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Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
It's free to play competitors yes. Well I guess TF2 and CS aren't really f2p but they are much cheaper...
TransTrender
Gold Member
I still don't get it. This answer still doesn't fit with the original statement.
cutthroatslim
Neo Member
*fixed 😃
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Don't know what to tell you, I think the game should be $30 because other games like it don't cost $60 and filled with Microtransactions. Hell PC version is $40. Console player got the shit end of the stick on this one...
Overwatch is actually a new high in terms of monetization. OP makes it sound like consequential things were sliced out of the game to be locked behind paywalls when that's not the case. Sorry you can't immediately use your little emote or voice taunt right away, here's your free heroes and maps.
I paid $40 and got a super polished game I'll put hundreds of hours into, and one that will have great post launch support. No additional money required. How is this possibly a bad thing?
I paid $40 and got a super polished game I'll put hundreds of hours into, and one that will have great post launch support. No additional money required. How is this possibly a bad thing?
Lootboxes are the new popular things to add in a competitive game. Even many mobile phone games are based around the gacha principle. Pretty sure it's efficient in making people keep playing/addicted to get the stuff they really want
So in modern games you either need to get a currency out of a lootbox or the item itself from the draw instead of doing some challenges to unlock skins and lines. It's luck based and tedious and instead you can pay money to speed up the process. I really don't mind it since they aren't locking away characters and maps behind a paywall.
Microtransactions in a 60$ title aren't new (hello SFV). Guess no one here played Dead Space 3. You could pay actual money for component crates (and I think robots that salvaged components).
So in modern games you either need to get a currency out of a lootbox or the item itself from the draw instead of doing some challenges to unlock skins and lines. It's luck based and tedious and instead you can pay money to speed up the process. I really don't mind it since they aren't locking away characters and maps behind a paywall.
Microtransactions in a 60$ title aren't new (hello SFV). Guess no one here played Dead Space 3. You could pay actual money for component crates (and I think robots that salvaged components).
Bear Force One
Banned
Words like ridiculous lose meaning when you use them incorrectly. There's nothing wrong with getting coins to BUY the items you like when you get dupes.
Good god, this thread is silly.
Its F2P 'competitiors' are ACTUALLY rotten with microtransactions, unlike this which has basically the same kind of microtransaction most single player games have these days.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Yeah the exchange rate is awesome...
Yeah would hate to play a game where all the progression can be bought... Oh wait
Bear Force One
Banned
Yeah the exchange rate is awesome...
Yeah would hate to play a game where all the progression can be bought... Oh wait
Considering it's all fake money and they could have just said "whoops a dupe" and not given anything it's fine. You seem like you need to find fault regardless of logic.
There is no progression here. It's vanity. Equally offered to all who play.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Would agree if they didn't sell them as well, and thus why Microtransactions in a $60 game suck..
Bear Force One
Banned
That's not an issue. It's line skipping for glitter. Why that affects you is beyond all of us.
Zero
Issue with microtranacrions for things that aren't needed. Especially when you don't have to buy them to attain them. Just play the game, silly.
None of this is based in reality. You are just finding fault in nothing.
Yeah would hate to play a game where all the progression can be bought... Oh wait
There is no progression in Overwatch.
Gravy Boat
Member
But lots of $60 games have micro transactions. In Overwatch all you're doing is paying to speed the process of acquisition up. You're not actually gaining anything.
Would you rather buy new heroes/maps? Or let whales fund free DLC?
Why the hell do people insist multi-player games should be cheaper than games with a single player component by default? That's not the point of the game. "I'd totally be fine with paying $60 if they tacked on an SP campaign that I'd never play!" Lol bullshit. Stop advocating for F2P. This game is extremely well made and it will provide far more play time than 99% of single player titles.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Get back to me when you've played 80 hours of Halo 5 and still don't have all the basic loadouts and ability upgrades. When you've died for the 500th time from someone who had a scope four times better than yours or extra ammo in their magazine or faster recharging shields or an instafrag contact grenade up their sleeve, think about how much you wish you were only missing a line to spam.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
No my issue is the only progression in this game is sold, this shouldn't be in a $60 game. At half that It still takes balls but could be easier to take.
It's fine if you are ok with it, sure that what EA, Ubi and all the other big guys are hoping for. Get dem dollars out!
Gravy Boat
Member
Have you played Overwatch? It sounds like you haven't. There's no progression in Overwatch.
Bear Force One
Banned
There is no progression. You're main point is flawed.
I'm not buying anything because I'll get it all from playing. Hence the lack of weeping.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Funny I swear there is a bar that fills up and at the end u get a box...
Must have been a different game. Maybe you guys haven't played it. Overwatch is the 6v6 team hero shooter...
I really wish I got that sick Blue Lucio skin that all the whales bought with their microtransactions that gives them plus 100% healing but instead I am stuck on the default skin that jut makes me heal normally until I earn enough in-game currency to buy that Pay 2 Win skin
SpiritSlayer
Member
Don't the characters say the voice lines regardless of if you bought them or not?
Gravy Boat
Member
That's not really progression. Can you explain in your own words what the microtransactions in this game buy you? I don't think you understand.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Licensing fee
AWizardDidIt
Member
I think the thing you might be missing is that to keep developing updates (new maps, heroes, and just general balance changes) costs money. In order to fund those updates developers have two choices.
1.) Have cosmetic microtransactions in the game. People who have money to burn spend some extra and no one who doesn't spend an extra dime is impacted, essentially getting all content for free.
2.) Release regular expansions that users have to pay for if they want access to new developed content
Now I'm not sure if you need someone to spell out why one of these is better for the wider userbase than the other but I think it's fairly clear that the first choice benefits the majority of the userbase the most in an evolving online game.
As for your statement that console owners got screwed, the reason is because retail and distribution on consoles cuts a significant cost of the game. Likely Blizzard makes the same from a $60 console sale as they make from a $40 PC sale.
That isn't progression. Nothing changes in the actual game. It's all glitter for people that care about that sort of thing. You must not have played a game with actual, problematic progression that genuinely punishes new players.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Ok when you play overwatch you get reward points on how well you do in a game, bonus points if you win (think it's 500). When you progress in level or level up you are rewarded with a box that has 4 random items in it. These items range from voice line, skins, sprays and other things.
These boxes can also be purchased in various pack biggest is $40 for 50. So for $40 you baslicly get the same rewards and someone play thru lvl 1-50. Hell if you got deep pockets you can get a few 100s levels of rewards in seconds...
Best part if you buy said boxes good chance you are going to get tons and tons of dupes that convert for a fraction of what they cost in game added a entire new layer to the shit pie that is Microtransactions in a full priced game.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Your logic is absurd.
This isn't a F2P game.
It's a full featured multiplayer FPS without season passes and map packs that cost additional money. The game will continue to be updated with new content and maps for free. The only microtransactions are for vanity/cosmetic stuff that are also unlocked by playing the game and don't change your character's stats, abilities, or weapons.
Have you ever played a F2P multiplayer FPS? Fire up Planetside 2 and see what microtransactions look like...and a game that's 'filled' with microtransactions. Overwatch is nothing like this.
I'm guessing the PC version is $40 because they practically own the entire ecosystem. Console versions probably cost more due to the additional costs of using Sony and Microsoft's ecosystem. Instead of hording the extra $20 for themselves they pass the 'savings' back to the PC users.
Considering the current state of the gaming industry this model is the best thing that happened in a long time.
Gravy Boat
Member
None of that is progression though. I play the game because it's really fun. Any crates I earn are purely a bonus.
New skins and sprays are nice but not the reason I play the game. Have you played the game? I feel like you're avoiding that question.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
It is but it also has a gross micro transaction system for the multiplayer which is what I'm talking about.
Unique weapons (with an insanely low drop rate last time I checked) locked away in a bad supply drop system in addition to a season pass.
I hope I am right in that you forgot /s or that it was a typo!
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Yeah I've played the game, got the gold frog skin for Lucio (2nd box). Prob play the most as him, if I'm not the healer no one else picks them and we loose. I bought the game cause I liked the shorts, that was a mistake, none of that is in this game.
Just because you don't see it as progression doesn't me it isn't. Why would blizzard even sell the boxes if they didn't know for a fact that people would buy them? If they mean nothing then just unlock it all from the get go. They don't because its going to be the driving force for many to log in a play, hoping the next box will be something cool and when its isn't they hope most of them will say fuck it and buy some with real money.
This is some mobile f2p shit in a $60 game, its insane it just gets a pass.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Holy shit this is nutz!