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Overwatch |OT| My Onlywatch Has Ended

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Grisby

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All the nerf talk about so many different characters points to a well designed game IMO
I feel like everything fits mostly well.

Only thing I'm finding that I don't like gameplay wise is that sometimes my opponent gets a hit that doesn't seem to match up with mine. I guess that's the tick rate or something.
 
Apparently you can break Reinhardt's rush by hooking him as Roadhog. Our Roadhog just saved my life this way, as I was in Reinhardt's grasp and heading towards a wall as Lucio. One second I was dead, the next our Roadhog had Reinhardt on the line, shooting him in the face. Thanks!
Roadhog can be a real lifesaver
 

Keasar

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Oh Blizzard thou who art in thy high throne of fat dough and pools of cash.

Please implement a goddamn matchmaking system cause going up constantly against grouped players who beat the shit out of you over and over is boring as fuck. My gaming group just quit grumpy as hell because we just had 7 games in a row where we were grouped up against players who won against us unopposed.

I don't care how much people praise this game, it becomes very quickly more than any other game a cavalcade of frustration if you get a bad matchup which is 70% of the matches in this game.
 

edgefusion

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3 Torbjorn's and a Bastion on Hanamura. Feels like an unbreakable defence, nothing works against them. Those turrets really need a nerf.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Oh Blizzard thou who art in thy high throne of fat dough and pools of cash.

Please implement a goddamn matchmaking system cause going up constantly against grouped players who beat the shit out of you over and over is boring as fuck. My gaming group just quit grumpy as hell because we just had 7 games in a row where we were grouped up against players who won against us unopposed.

I don't care how much people praise this game, it becomes very quickly more than any other game a cavalcade of frustration if you get a bad matchup which is 70% of the matches in this game.

Wait so youre grouped yourself and you are complaining you are getting matched against other grouped players?
 

Klyka

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Oh Blizzard thou who art in thy high throne of fat dough and pools of cash.

Please implement a goddamn matchmaking system cause going up constantly against grouped players who beat the shit out of you over and over is boring as fuck. My gaming group just quit grumpy as hell because we just had 7 games in a row where we were grouped up against players who won against us unopposed.

I don't care how much people praise this game, it becomes very quickly more than any other game a cavalcade of frustration if you get a bad matchup which is 70% of the matches in this game.

uh.

the game has a matchmaking system.
you are constantly changing your MMR while you play.
you are just not properly placed yet, as are others, so bad matchups happen.
especially with groups.
 
Wait so youre grouped yourself and you are complaining you are getting matched against other grouped players?

yeah i didn't understand that, maybe he meant something different

I think what that person meant is there should be some kind of group matchmaking where the game figures out how good your group as a whole is and only matches you against groups of roughly equal skill.

That sounds like a really hard problem to solve (how do you calculate group skill? individual skill is fuzzy enough), so I wouldn't be surprised if Overwatch doesn't really bother much with this. But ideally, I would love a system like this if a reliable one could be built.

D.Va pro tip: if your mech is destroyed while you have your ult up, you can ult while in the process of ejecting.

WHAT WHAT WHAT
 

ISOM

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Oh Blizzard thou who art in thy high throne of fat dough and pools of cash.

Please implement a goddamn matchmaking system cause going up constantly against grouped players who beat the shit out of you over and over is boring as fuck. My gaming group just quit grumpy as hell because we just had 7 games in a row where we were grouped up against players who won against us unopposed.

I don't care how much people praise this game, it becomes very quickly more than any other game a cavalcade of frustration if you get a bad matchup which is 70% of the matches in this game.

Maybe you guys just suck?
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
I think what that person meant is there should be some kind of group matchmaking where the game figures out how good your group as a whole is and only matches you against groups of roughly equal skill.

That sounds like a really hard problem to solve (how do you calculate group skill? individual skill is fuzzy enough), so I wouldn't be surprised if Overwatch doesn't really bother much with this. But ideally, I would love a system like this if a reliable one could be built.



WHAT WHAT WHAT

This what I was saying yesterday, this mythical idea that because youre grouped it will get better os weird because then you get matched against other full groups, who may very well be coordinated groups on comms and shit.

Maybe you guys just suck?

Also...welp. I dont like to be a dick but yeah, a lot of the complaints im reading lately are sounding an awful lot like the "get good" variety :(
 

Apathy

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I think what that person meant is there should be some kind of group matchmaking where the game figures out how good your group as a whole is and only matches you against groups of roughly equal skill.

That sounds like a really hard problem to solve (how do you calculate group skill? individual skill is fuzzy enough), so I wouldn't be surprised if Overwatch doesn't really bother much with this. But ideally, I would love a system like this if a reliable one could be built.



WHAT WHAT WHAT

oh that woul dbe hard. cause i mean you could take the average MMR of each person but that still is not perfect as 2 in the middle is not the same as one person with super high and one with super low grouping
 

Peff

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Gotta love when you are all like "xxx really was the MVP here", vote for him/her early on and someone gives you a single vote afterwards. Aaawkward.

EDIT: I must be having A LOT of luck with the matchmaking. I run into people who can't coordinate for shit like, once or twice a day tops. Or maybe it's because I play Lucio that I get them to live long enough to realize what to do, haha.
 
oh that woul dbe hard. cause i mean you could take the average MMR of each person but that still is not perfect as 2 in the middle is not the same as one person with super high and one with super low grouping

Yeah, plus six awesome but uncoordinated people could be beaten by six decent but well-coordinated people, and how on earth do you measure that, especially for pickup groups with no/little history? Sounds really difficult.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Any multiplayer games that matches randoms vs premades is pretty shitty.
I think Overwatch is one of those popular games with big enough playerbase that they could make it more fair.

But its not matching randoms against premades... he said he was grouped and his group lost 7 games in a row and quit in frustration
 
This is my first PC shooter that I've play for any length of time and now my hand tingles and feels numb and my wrist kinda aches. Anyone have any advice?
 
Oh Blizzard thou who art in thy high throne of fat dough and pools of cash.

Please implement a goddamn matchmaking system cause going up constantly against grouped players who beat the shit out of you over and over is boring as fuck. My gaming group just quit grumpy as hell because we just had 7 games in a row where we were grouped up against players who won against us unopposed.

I don't care how much people praise this game, it becomes very quickly more than any other game a cavalcade of frustration if you get a bad matchup which is 70% of the matches in this game.

Well, if you and your friends were grouped... yeah, it's gonna match you against other groups.

Also, for some reason Overwatch keeps both teams together if they stay in matchmaking. If you got stomped by a group and didn't have fun, restart matchmaking. It sounds like you lost 7 games in a row because you played the same team 7 times.
 

Hyun Sai

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As solo player I get a match in 3 seconds, and with a 5 player premade we can wait up to 4 minutes.

It indicates the game is really trying hard to avoid Random VS pre-made.
 
Well, if you and your friends were grouped... yeah, it's gonna match you against other groups.

Also, for some reason Overwatch keeps both teams together if they stay in matchmaking. If you got stomped by a group and didn't have fun, restart matchmaking. It sounds like you lost 7 games in a row because you played the same team 7 times.

If you win/lose three times in a row the game should find you another match that is more balanced. It's happened to me on both ends, but I think it has to be a real slaughter and not a back and forth kind of game
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Well, if you and your friends were grouped... yeah, it's gonna match you against other groups.

Also, for some reason Overwatch keeps both teams together if they stay in matchmaking. If you got stomped by a group and didn't have fun, restart matchmaking. It sounds like you lost 7 games in a row because you played the same team 7 times.

Im pretty sure it only does that for 2 games. The attack and defense game, then it re-matches
 
If you win/lose three times in a row the game should find you another match that is more balanced. It's happened to me on both ends, but I think it has to be a real slaughter and not a back and forth kind of game

Im pretty sure it only does that for 2 games. The attack and defense game, then it re-matches

I'm preeeeetty sure I've seen groups stick around for longer, but maybe that's because we were trading wins/losses rather than blowing each other out.
 
Are some of the achievements bugged? I'm 100% sure I did both the requirements for Lockdown and Double cap, but they are still locked for me...
 
The game is just so much different if you have an actual team that plays together.

It goes from "this is impossible" to "that was easy..." Really wild when it happens.

My favourite is when my team switches heroes and overcomes a difficult roadblock and wins. Feels really good.
 
I got double cap with some friends in quick mode earlier today, so I don't think that one is at least.

I looked it up and seems it's a known issue for some :(

I hope they'll fix it soon, getting Lockdown is easy enough but Double Cap requires some more luck.

Although, I got the requirements for Double Cap earlier with D.Va, but my mech did get destroyed. Would that count as a death, even though I survived the game as girl D.Va?
 

Baliis

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I looked it up and seems it's a known issue for some :(

I hope they'll fix it soon, getting Lockdown is easy enough but Double Cap requires some more luck.

Although, I got the requirements for Double Cap earlier with D.Va, but my mech did get destroyed. Would that count as a death, even though I survived the game as girl D.Va?

It might actually. You can get the Team Kill notice after D.Va's mech dies even if tshes still alive outside it.
 
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