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[I-hate-u]

I know some folks here are not happy about character nerfs talk, but (talking about pro play here) Sombra having her ult every fight (basically every 20 seconds or so) doesn't seem fair, does it?

 

[MCD]

Got my smurf up to platinum after neglecting the account for a few weeks. Teamed up with two kids from Saudi Arabia who were also using smurfs, we rolled over every team we faced. One of them was deadly with McCree, to a point which I don't think I've seen before (bar pro scene) his accuracy was near kbm level.

Felt good to play low pressure games for the night, had some bad luck the other day in a 6 stack and lost several. It just wasn't clicking for us unfortunately but that's the way it goes sometimes.

That's why you were online with two accounts hahaha

 

[Blues1990]

I know some folks here are not happy about character nerfs talk, but (talking about pro play here) Sombra having her ult every fight (basically every 20 seconds or so) doesn't seem fair, does it?

It's an excellent "initializer" ability, but getting the most value out of it in fights depends on the team you're working with.

 

[I-hate-u]

It's an excellent "initializer" ability, but getting the most value out of it in fights depends on the team you're working with.

It's an ability that basically buys your team 30 additional seconds on the clock as defenders.

God, these DLC characters are just ridiculous. What will happen when people discover Orisa's potential, or worse, Doomfist's (who looks insane day 1 unlike the rest of the DLC characters did)?

 

[MCD]

Orisa can be a pos to deal with when she uses her ult in a group.

 

[Blues1990]

It's an ability that basically buys your team 30 additional seconds on the clock as defenders.

God, these DLC characters are just ridiculous. What will happen when people discover Orisa's potential, or worse, Doomfist's (who looks insane day 1 unlike the rest of the DLC characters did)?

Yes, but Sombra get's the most value out of her ult when he/she catches the enemy team with their pants down and they have no means to defend themselves. Solider 76 and Zarya create good synergies with that character, for example. But using EMP without someone on your team to follow up is pretty meaningless.

Now that you've mentioned it, I still miss the speed boost that Nano Boost gave to the player. *sigh*

Orisa can be a pos to deal with when she uses her ult in a group.

Yet, she sucks as an anchor tank. Oops!

 

[LiK]

Orisa Ult bug hasn't been fixed. Still a threat.

 

[I-hate-u]

Now that you've mentioned it, I still miss the speed boost that Nano Boost gave to the player. *sigh*

With the current Reaper? *shudders*

Btw I have seen pros use EMP just to kill Zenyatta, and that is enough to stop the enemy team from pushing. You basically need someone like Kariv to predict an EMP and ult before she gets to you, or stay far away from the team to avoid getting caught.

It's pretty nasty.

 

[Blues1990]

With the current Reaper? *shudders*

Well, I missed it when you applied it to the Tank Heroes.

If anything, I wished the speed boost from Nano worked only on the tanks, and Lucio's Speed Boost didn't stack on top of that.

Btw I have seen pros use EMP just to kill Zenyatta, and that is enough to stop the enemy team from pushing. You basically need someone like Kariv to predict an EMP and ult before she gets to you, or stay far away from the team to avoid getting caught.

It's pretty nasty.

Of course. But I'm talking about outside of the professional circuit, what with how unpredictable your random teammates can be.

 

[I-hate-u]

Well, I missed it when you applied it to the Tank Heroes.

If anything, I wished the speed boost from Nano worked only on the tanks, and Lucio's Speed Boost didn't stack on top of that.

Yep. Anything to get good ol' grampa and granny in the meta again.

 

[TWrecks310]

Lol autocorrect

I know some folks here are not happy about character nerfs talk, but (talking about pro play here) Sombra having her ult every fight (basically every 20 seconds or so) doesn't seem fair, does it?

It's a tough situation because more than any other hero Sombra is ONLY OP at the pro level. At lower levels she still isn't that good even if players are getting better with her and teams are better playing around her.

They have to at least nerf her EMP charge rate though, and if they want to rework her they could maybe buff another part of her kit.

 

[I-hate-u]

Makes you think if they should have different patches for pro and ladder play.
Reminder: Blizzard takes Quick Play into account for patch data.......

Spoiler

I never play QP seriously and I am sure other do too.

 

[Blues1990]

Yep. Anything to get good ol' grampa and granny in the meta again.

A speedy nano boosted Reinhardt was a scary thing to deal with. Especially with the accompany voice line "Are you ready? 'HERE I COME!" as you see a gigantic German with a big ass hammer came in walloping the enemy team.

But, yes, Beyblade Reaper was incredibly stupid and was a justifiable reason to get rid of the speed boost from Ana's Nano Dart.

 

[LiK]

I am honestly tired of Mercy rezzes in Comp. Not hard to counter, it's just tiring. Her Ult charges way too fast. We were playing on Horizon last night and it was literally constant rezzes between both our teams in Point B. It was ridiculous.

 

[I-hate-u]

I am honestly tired of Mercy rezzes in Comp. Not hard to counter, it's just tiring. Her Ult charges way too fast. We were playing on Horizon last night and it was literally constant rezzes between both our teams in Point B. It was ridiculous.

Mercy solo healing = rez every fight

Mercy is the Sombra of competitive play confirmed.

 

[Blues1990]

Makes you think if they should have different patches for pro and ladder play.
Reminder: Blizzard takes Quick Play into account for patch data.......

Spoiler

I never play QP seriously and I am sure other do too.

I still can't take them seriously for that bit. You know, given how Quick Play isn't exactly a great mode to play in.

I am honestly tired of Mercy rezzes in Comp. Not hard to counter, it's just tiring. Her Ult charges way too fast. We were playing on Horizon last night and it was literally constant rezzes between both our teams in Point B. It was ridiculous.

Given how Zarya had her Ultimate growth rate slowed to a crawl, making it so that you had to make it count in a fight, I think it's only fair if Mercy get's similar treatment with her's. It's bullshit.

 

[Incendiary]

I am honestly tired of Mercy rezzes in Comp. Not hard to counter, it's just tiring. Her Ult charges way too fast. We were playing on Horizon last night and it was literally constant rezzes between both our teams in Point B. It was ridiculous.

If they ever instituted MOBA-style character bans as part of a mode I would always vote to ban Mercy from every match.

 

[MCD]

You know what I am tired of? Ppl shooting at Zarya.

FFS why is she super charged right from the fucking start fffffffff

 

[Dead Prince]

You know what I am tired of? Ppl shooting at Zarya.

FFS why is she super charged right from the fucking start fffffffff

i mean the bubble will eventually pop. but then people stop shooting her after and just move on.

 

[LiK]

You know what I am tired of? Ppl shooting at Zarya.

FFS why is she super charged right from the fucking start fffffffff

If she's low on health, better to pop it and kill her if you can.

 

[Forerunner]

28XX to 26XX. The fall is fast and hard, it's just pointless. Why does my team always have a leaver? So far I've had eight games where someone on my team has left. The same has happened to the other team once. The more I play comp, the more I see it's just a waste of time. Yeah, I might get a few good games here and there, but most are just trash blowouts because you always have somebody that doesn't want to switch off their Junkrat or Widow.

Man, I wish we had a hitscan for this Pharah. Nah, lets just stay on Junkrat and Reaper!

 

[LiK]

We were lucky last night to have enemy team get a leaver. They failed at capturing Point B of Anubis and the guy left so the next round was easy.

 

[kurahador]

You know what I am tired of? Ppl shooting at Zarya.

FFS why is she super charged right from the fucking start fffffffff

As Zarya player, I love hearing the sound of ppl shooting at my bubble.

 

[THe_DeiCiDe]

As Zarya player, I love hearing the sound of ppl shooting at my bubble.

This.

On the flip side tho, I hate to hear silence after I bubble someone in the middle of a fight.

 

[LiK]

As Zarya player, I love hearing the sound of ppl shooting at my bubble.

On console, you feel the rumble of the bubbles getting shot. Better than sounds.

 

[Nocturnowl]

On console, you feel the rumble of the bubbles getting shot. Better than sounds.

This will lure folks back to PS4, good thinking!

Really though, it's a nice feeling, it's all like "vwoooom" and then you fry them.

 

[LiK]

This will lure folks back to PS4, good thinking!

Really though, it's a nice feeling, it's all like "vwoooom" and then you fry them.

It's like massaging my hands. When Winston lands, there's a similar effect. Really cool. The rumble doesn't get enough credit in this game cuz the main youTubers/Reddit play mainly on PC. But I am constantly impressed with how every weapon and ability feels different with rumble in this game. The unsung heroes are the rumble programmers.

 

[I-hate-u]

What about dat laser sound when at MAXIMUM CHARGE tho.....

 

[Talonz]

If they ever instituted MOBA-style character bans as part of a mode I would always vote to ban Mercy from every match.

Matches are way more fun when she isn't involved. I've always thought giving a hero a group rezz ability in this game to be way too match changing. It also helps in creating stalemates.

 

[Berserking Guts]

Had a really good 4-1 last night (had 5 wins the night before) Only lost the last game because someone on our team decided to ice wall our spawn. I'm game tonight if you want to group up fox.

Decide, my psn is Berserking-Guts if you want to group

 

[LiK]

Rewatched 'Dragons' short and I wonder when we'll get another animated short again. It's been way too long.

 

[Fudgepuppy]

Hey if any euroGaffers wanna play OW, I'm looking for more people. Averaging around 2500 in comp score, always running with a mic, can join Discord, Teamspeak and Mumble servers. Main Reinhart, but am very flexible and proficient Soldier, Mercy, Ana, Lucio, Zenyatta, Reaper, Dva, Zarya, Winston and Mei.

My battletag is Fudgepuppy#2176

 

[Orochinagis]

Twomad has a new video

Wow, His puch can instant kill soft enemies if you smash them to a wall....

Rewatched 'Dragons' short and I wonder when we'll get another animated short again. It's been way too long.

Sombra got an animated short?

 

[LiK]

Sombra got an animated short?

That was last year dude.

 

[Orochinagis]

Time surely pass fast, Orisa didnt got one. I guess Blizzard focused on the events or didnt have faith on her

 

[LiK]

Time surely pass fast, Orisia didnt got one

Yea, Orisa got some crappy animated comic and Doomfist got a mega short anime. I miss those CGI animated shorts.

 

[Data West]

orisa is an afterthought

probably the worst/most dull hero they added

 

[Karsticles]

I like Orisa, but I wish she had some kind of mobility option. Given that they play up her horse aspect, some kind of Trample ability would be better than her defensive armor one. Just let me run at +50% movespeed and stun and damage people I hit for a small duration.

 

[LiK]

Kotaku did a good article about how shit Comp is right now.

http://kotaku.com/overwatchs-competitive-mode-is-depressing-right-now-1796780238

 

[Plywood]

You know what nerf Tracer needs? Recall shouldn't heal her.

If anything Tracer needs a buff. 1 blink for each elim, let's gooooooooooo

 

[Incendiary]

A clip of mine got used in Rapida's latest video, so I think that basically makes me an Overwatch celebrity now, right?

 

[QisTopTier]

I like Orisa, but I wish she had some kind of mobility option. Given that they play up her horse aspect, some kind of Trample ability would be better than her defensive armor one. Just let me run at +50% movespeed and stun and damage people I hit for a small duration.

Why would she charge shes a hold the line type. If anything would have gotten an over the top knockback. But we got her orb instead

 

[LiK]

A clip of mine got used in Rapida's latest video, so I think that basically makes me an Overwatch celebrity now, right?

Who's Rapida?

 

[finalflame]

Who's Rapida?

Wondering the same -- wut?

 

[Incendiary]

Who's Rapida?

Wondering the same -- wut?

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCYCwDl5Cu_QnS-Hm76TnU5Q

She does compilation videos of funny Overwatch clips and also does the "Theirs vs Ours" series that has been linked to in this thread before.

 

[THe_DeiCiDe]

Kotaku did a good article about how shit Comp is right now.

http://kotaku.com/overwatchs-competitive-mode-is-depressing-right-now-1796780238

Great read, thanks for posting LiK.

I actually watched that your overwatch video last nite. I hope they do change the way the system ranks and gives out sr.

Maybe a fresh start to MMR as if it was the first comp season, and sr gains factored by if your team was the underdog or not would help clean up comp.

It would have to at least be better than what we have happening now.

 

[antitrop]

That Kotaku article is absolute trash. It just reiterates misconceptions from the Battle.net forums.

 

[LiK]

Great read, thanks for posting LiK.

I actually watched that your overwatch video last nite. I hope they do change the way the system ranks and gives out sr.

Maybe a fresh start to MMR as if it was the first comp season, and sr gains factored by if your team was the underdog or not would help clean up comp.

It would have to at least be better than what we have happening now.

Yea, dropping people 200-300 SR after placements and making people regain that in 50 games is really stupid, imo. Why punish people in the following season so they would "feel better" about their wins with bonus SR? The climb is already tough enough without the SR win streak swings now along with so many randoms tilting, throwing, leaving etc, then it becomes quite a chore no matter how good you play.

I also watched the Your Overwatch video that was mentioned in the article and the way SR works is just incredibly infuriating. It makes you really question Blizzard's approach to the SR system.

That Kotaku article is absolute trash. It just reiterates misconceptions from the Battle.net forums.

I think the complaints mirror what's been said in this thread.

 

[Karsticles]

Why would she charge shes a hold the line type. If anything would have gotten an over the top knockback. But we got her orb instead

As a getaway and quick way to exposition for a shield when they push in. That is my main problem with her. Once someone closes in on her it's over.

She could get the knockback, but personally I like mobility options and trampling people sounds fun.

 

[Incendiary]

Maybe a fresh start to MMR as if it was the first comp season, and sr gains factored by if your team was the underdog or not would help clean up comp.

It would have to at least be better than what we have happening now.

I don't know if a complete fresh start is a good idea - then you'd get Seagulls matched up with Bronzes for a while at the beginning and it would be even more of a shit show.

What I'd hope for is some sort of rolling MMR algorithm, where it tabulates it by your last 500-600 games or something like that. Like I know I sucked the first couple months I played the game, but I've learned and improved my technique. But my MMR is always going to have those initial shitty games where I died 20 times a match because I would always charge directly onto to the point from spawn regardless of what my team or the enemy team was doing, and would usually promptly die right away.

Also QP MMR shouldn't influence the competitive MMR as QP is a mess 90% of the time.