Losing in those maps was just irritating. Glad 5 rounds are gone. I think our stacks usually tilted most from them.
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Losing in those maps was just irritating. Glad 5 rounds are gone. I think our stacks usually tilted most from them.
waitwhat42
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TheDrizzlerJ11
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I'm alone in loving 5 round koth? Round 5 is as intense as OW gets. 
Sora the Cat
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Doesn't this patch include the changes to Mercy? I'm not seeing it in those notes
LucidMomentum
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YAS
YA BOY IS BACK.
I'm alone in loving 5 round koth? Round 5 is as intense as OW gets.
The comebacks were so fun, being down 0-2 and people deciding to throw isn't though. Hopefully people will do that less being down 0-1.
benicillin
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Mercy and D.Va just barely hit PTR, they're still a ways out.
Sora the Cat
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You are right, I don't know why I thought Mercy changes were coming today.
SparkleMotion
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As someone who played Roadhog for 50 hours pre-nerf, I can say that today's patch at least makes him fun to play again.
What makes him fun again?
SparkleMotion
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You don't immediately die when you hook someone. You can also engage and disengage from fights with his heal. You can get into the middle of a team fight and have full health, instead of being on the verge of death just from running to your team. When you hook someone and they live, you can heal while chasing them and finish them off.
He's a pretty great Doomfist counter now, because of his increased survivability.
Nuno Pinto
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There's a new option on controls named aim ease in at 0 default, no idea of what it does but something feels different.
I really wish they didn't mess with the controls like this, I was playing mystery heroes for a bit before and now I can't even aim properly lol
I really wish they didn't mess with the controls like this, I was playing mystery heroes for a bit before and now I can't even aim properly lol
SparkleMotion
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That option is only for controllers.
He was already a great counter to DF. Nice to see the buffs are getting some positive reactions here.
SparkleMotion
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Depends on the player. A good Roadhog can shut down Tracer and Doomfist, as well as pull enemy healers out of position. You can also pull enemy Winstons away from your healers.
Nuno Pinto
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Yup, talking about console here, I don't think any of those options means anything for pc since there's no aim assist there.
So how does it feel with it on? Why does it feel different?
SparkleMotion
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Oh. My bad.
Nuno Pinto
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LOL, okay, I won't use it. Happy with my current setup.
Nuno Pinto
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That's what I'm pissed about, it messes up your current setup.
I've tried with it at 0 and 100 and it's awful either way.
On the bright side linear ramp actually feels somewhat ok with it at 100.
Time to find out my ideal settings all over again FFS
Acually fuck this game, gonna continue my break. GG blizz
Wait, you don't need to toggle anything for it?
Berserking Guts
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Love those Orisa changes. Junkrats gonna be a pain in Total Mayhem lol
Nuno Pinto
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THe_DeiCiDe
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This sounds stupid as fuck. More options are fine, but don't go fuckin with existing setups blizzard.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Deathmatch sucks.
Team Deatchmatch is awesome.
Team Deatchmatch is awesome.
High mobility heroes really need a fucking balance check in this game. They've been effective for nearly every season and continue to do so, Tracer and Genji specifically.
If only there was a hero designed to slow people down who was actually good at it
I wish.
But she's not good at it. You can't expect to be able to 1v1 people.
Nuno Pinto
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Totally agree, this is just awful.
Had to lower my sensitivity from 100 to 75 so it's somewhat playable, but even like this I feel like it's almost impossible to do small adjustments to my aim like before.
They fucked up pretty badly.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Wait what? They fucked with existing aim sensitivities??
thats the joke
High mobility heroes really need a fucking balance check in this game. They've been effective for nearly every season and continue to do so, Tracer and Genji specifically.
If only there was a hero designed to slow people down who was actually good at it
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been some community outrage about Tracer. She hasn't been touched once since release and has had very high pick rate in almost every meta. At some point devs have to ask themselves, maybe we have to change something instead of blatantly playing favorites.
I don't think there is any other character that hasn't changed to some extent, except Tracer. Exactly zero changes.
Mei is anti tank more than anything... she does nothing to Tracer/Genji or Doomfist.
The problem is there's a ton of heroes that are anti tank. Anti-flanker(Tracer specifically) is pretty much just Mcree reliably and Torbjorn who only works on defense.
She's too versatile and she has complete control over the map that no hero, not even Genji, has. You would think the freeze based character would be good at dealing with the fast characters.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Tracer is fine as is. She'll be slightly less common with junks inevitable rise too.
A Mei can deal with a Doomfist with a little help. Bait him into a punch, iceblock, then freeze him. She also one shots Tracer if it's a headshot. But yeah her dmg could use a little buff I'd say.
A Mei can deal with a Doomfist with a little help. Bait him into a punch, iceblock, then freeze him. She also one shots Tracer if it's a headshot. But yeah her dmg could use a little buff I'd say.
Mei can't deal with Doomfist well at the moment. Her problems tend to come with Winston.
Honestly, a lot of the mobility issues in the game right now don't have to do with DPS being mobile. I'm not sure how many people here actually play Tracer/Genji as much as I do, but they actually can't get that much done without help from their team or poor play from their opponents.
It really stems from the fact that the mobile tanks can provide them with a huge amount of space while also getting free pressure on Zarya/Rein. Mei has actually been pretty good before, but she doesn't' work well with Winston/D.Va to set anything up.
Honestly, a lot of the mobility issues in the game right now don't have to do with DPS being mobile. I'm not sure how many people here actually play Tracer/Genji as much as I do, but they actually can't get that much done without help from their team or poor play from their opponents.
It really stems from the fact that the mobile tanks can provide them with a huge amount of space while also getting free pressure on Zarya/Rein. Mei has actually been pretty good before, but she doesn't' work well with Winston/D.Va to set anything up.
While Tracer is a pain in the ass to deal with and I say that as a former Tracer main who struggles every time I see her as D.VA or Zen, she really doesn't need changing. She isn't broken nor she is overpowered. Lowest HP (150) with a lengthy recall cooldown. You should only have trouble with a good Tracer main because a bad one will just abuse or misuse her blinks/recall and die easily.
When you are against Tracer try to focus when she recalls and shout to your teammates: she used recall! Punish her!
That's how you kill her. Team focus her because if left alone she can destroy everyone.
Or just the good old headshot.
As for why defense heroes aren't getting a buff well Junk just got one so did Hanzo before so there is hope for Mei.
I wouldn't say Tracer isn't overpowered at the moment. She is statistically overpowered and generally overpowered from experience.
She can be overpowered and not need changing because it's better for the game if she's doing something that's important to keep it working. Which she is, she is actually able to secure kills.
She can be overpowered and not need changing because it's better for the game if she's doing something that's important to keep it working. Which she is, she is actually able to secure kills.
They just keep adding sliders that I don't know what to do with.
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