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[Sullichin]

I still hate fighting against Mei so much. My biggest weakness

Had a game with genji, hanzo and widowmaker, me as lucio as the only healer, and they all refused to change even though we were losing badly in competitive. Maybe us other 3 were too polite. Every time this happens someone will say "i have gold elims" and then they'll be told that it doesn't matter cause we still got wrecked.

 

[Prelude.]

Its funny to think the Sombra discourse went from "nerf her" to "actually, she needs buffs" in a matter of days.

She needs both, her health packs hack is broken.

 

[Sullichin]

She needs both, her health packs hack is broken.

broken cause it makes the health packs spawn faster?

 

[matmanx1]

Lol you're fine. I have nothing against him really, just been swearing up and down since beta that he is a balance/design problem Blizz committed to. I have been proven right for the last year and don't expect it to change with this patch. I was naive with S2 thinking Ana/Mercy might do it but nah, Lucio too good ;~;

Most people here are probably sick of me going on about it since May

Nah you've been right the whole time. Speedbost as a teamwide ability needs to go bye bye and get replaced with something else. Lucio is weak outside of speedboost and until speedboost goes away he will continue to be a relatively boring, weak character.

I'm not sure what to do with Mercy. I like playing as Mercy and I still appreciate having a good one on my team. She's a strong healer and Rez is great but she needs to be able to either do damage or boost damage while healing to stop being a liability.

 

[Wyndstryker]

broken cause it makes the health packs spawn faster?

That and it's denial to the enemy. If there are no healthpacks for your team because they all got hacked it puts more pressure on your healers. At the same time it becomes easier to push or defend a spot that has a 200 healthpack generating faster.

 

[Squire]

Committing any thought to who should be removed is a complete waste of time. The characters themselves are half the appeal. I love to joke, but Mercy isn't being removed, Sym isn't, Mei isn't, no one is. A characters kit will work better or worse, but always be in flux,

It's a stupid talking point, full stop.

 

[caesar]

I've played mystery duel like 20 times and wom every round 5-0, 5-1or 5-2. A lot of people who play this game really cant aim in 1v1 situations.

 

[Squire]

broken cause it makes the health packs spawn faster?

People seem to have more of an issue with the minute-long denial.

 

[Blues1990]

I would like if Sombra's gun get's a small damage boost, as I'm finding it to be pretty unreliable when I get caught in a firefight.

 

[Prelude.]

broken cause it makes the health packs spawn faster?

It lasts too long, can be refreshed before it ends, can't be undone and there's no limit to how many health packs can stay hacked at the same time, so she can effectively remove the entirety of the health packs around a point for the whole match, meaning that the attacking team's only sustenance is its healers.

The sped up respawn isn't great either because it's so fast that any health pack, even a small one, is basically a closer spawn room that you can use to get to full health or even fight on.

 

[Squire]

I would like if Sombra's gun get's a small damage boost, as I'm finding it to be pretty unreliable when I get caught in a firefight.

I could see them reducing the spread before increasing her DPS.

It lasts too long, can be refreshed before it ends, can't be undone and there's no limit to how many health packs can stay hacked at the same time, so she can effectively remove the entirety of the health packs around a point for the whole match, meaning that the attacking team's only sustenance is its healers.

The sped up respawn isn't great either because it's so fast that any health pack, even a small one, is basically a closer spawn room that you can use to get to full health or even fight on.

I wouldn't be surprised if they decided against nerfing the timer specifically because of how it might up healer pick rates.

The health pack hacking specifically is very interesting because it's not like it's an issue that takes very long to be identified. I get the feeling it's the length it is because they already do very much think it should be. You could argue it's Sombra'a main draw too, since it's the only piece of her kit without a big drawback.

 

[RespectThySole]

Harbleu said that in the current PTR Dva and Soldier are insta picks and every other tank is well below her. He said there are three legit healers to play (not really Mercy though), Pharah dead, Sombra fun and should fit in, Rein and Zarya will drop a ton, no Lucio on defense a lot of the time, Reaper isn't as good. Said it's weird having two characters being so much better than everyone, and said it's not like a Rein/Lucio situation who just do two really important things that no one else can, this is just pure "Wow we need one because they are so good".

He does think PTR is way more fun overall though, and isn't bummed that it will go through unchanged, loves the ult nerfs.

I for one don't mind a Dva meta, everyone deserves a moment in the sun.

Finally. D.Va meta

 

[zoukka]

For some reason quick match triggers me more than competitive now.

 

[Prelude.]

I wouldn't be surprised if they decided against nerfing the timer specifically because of how it might up healer pick rates.

The health pack hacking specifically is very interesting because it's not like it's an issue that takes very long to be identified. I get the feeling it's the length it is because they already do very much think it should be. You could argue it's Sombra'a main draw too, since it's the only piece of her kit without a big drawback.

It breaks one of the fundamental aspects of the game. Every health pack is specifically designed, in its placement and size, to sustain the action and support flankers. With her hacking in its current state all of that goes out the window.

 

[AngryMoth]

I'm getting such bad luck recently. After the team makes a semi-decent defence on route 66 we decide to play an attack widow and symettra. First and last game for today

 

[Azoor]

I got into a 1v1 match with Widow and I actually got a headshot in the first 5 seconds, I have no idea how I did that, but it feels good.

 

[DevilDog]

I've played mystery duel like 20 times and wom every round 5-0, 5-1or 5-2. A lot of people who play this game really cant aim in 1v1 situations.

People can't aim in this game in general. The Q spamming of ults in this game is way out of control and leaves little room for individual plays.
The game doesn't encourage aim, just spamming in the general direction.

 

[pinkurocket]

Guys where do you find that graph that shows the evolution of your rank in comp? Some people sometimes post theirs here.

 

[PatjuhR]

Overbuff.

 

[pinkurocket]

Overbuff.

Danke!

I asked because damn I finally made it to diamond platinum.

 

[Squire]

It breaks one of the fundamental aspects of the game. Every health pack is specifically designed, in its placement and size, to sustain the action and support flankers. With her hacking in its current state all of that goes out the window.

I think you're making it out to be a bigger epidemic than it is, but we'll see how/if they address it. As usual: consider she's still not even in the live game yet.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

If they just made it so that she could only hack one health pack at once and it can be overwritten by enemy Sombras I think it would be fine.

 

[Prelude.]

I think you're making it out to be a bigger epidemic than it is, but we'll see how/if they address it. As usual: consider she's still not even in the live game yet.

I mean, try her on defense, like on King's Row for example.

Danke!

I asked because damn I finally made it to diamond.

2500? That's platinum.

 

[Red Arremer]

It breaks one of the fundamental aspects of the game. Every health pack is specifically designed, in its placement and size, to sustain the action and support flankers. With her hacking in its current state all of that goes out the window.

If you have a Sombra dedicated to babysitting healthpacks given the hack cooldown, channel time, and having to walk around between healthpacks, she can probably hack 3 at a time, perhaps 4 if they're really close together.
And that's if she only focuses on hacking healthpacks and does not contribute towards anything else.

 

[Prelude.]

If you have a Sombra dedicated to babysitting healthpacks given the hack cooldown, channel time, and having to walk around between healthpacks, she can probably hack 3 at a time, perhaps 4 if they're really close together.
And that's if she only focuses on hacking healthpacks and does not contribute towards anything else.

It's super easy with her camo+speed buff and teleporter to jump around between healthpacks, it's way more than 3.

 

[pinkurocket]

2500? That's platinum.

Yes that's what I mean, lol.

 

[Squire]

If they just made it so that she could only hack one health pack at once and it can be overwritten by enemy Sombras I think it would be fine.

The meta already basically comes down to teams being mirrors of each other, so the last thing they're going to do is explicitly encourage that.

I know they're small, but cooldowns are a thing. It's very unlikely a good Sombra is going to babysit health packs for the whole match. Most people simply aren't going to play like this.

 

[eek5]

Danke!

I asked because damn I finally made it to diamond platinum.

damn that steep rise. nice work man congrats!

 

[Skii]

Just watching Seagull's stream and there are so many cheaters in Korea. Like half of the games had a cheater. He unfortunately had to face one in KOTH and his team still won it (I think both teams agreed to just play it out like a normal match). Basically everyone jumped on the Zarya (cheater) before starting the real engage lol.

 

[Nimby]

Just watching Seagull's stream and there are so many cheaters in Korea. Like half of the games had a cheater. He unfortunately had to face one in KOTH and his team still won it (I think both teams agreed to just play it out like a normal match). Basically everyone jumped on the Zarya (cheater) before starting the real engage lol.

He was apparently a known cheater too. For me, getting caught cheating like that would just burst any reputation I had with the game. You want people to watch the killcam and go "Damn he's good" not "lol he's cheating" which aimbotting is sooooo obvious.

Basically, I still don't understand that mindset since players don't go "wow nice aimbot dude" and mean it literally.

 

[Darkness Unleashed]

So yeah, this happened the other day...

One of my proudest moments in my whole gaming life .
I´m a proof that it is posible to get out from gold only playing in solo queue (PS4), I endured all kinds of defeats and BS, but perseverance payed in the end. Hopefully I can start from a higher rating next season and reach Diamond.

 

[Redmoon]

Finally went through my first promo . Only took me since launch to do it. Here's to hoping I can do them faster from now on.

 

[eek5]

Finally went through my first promo . Only took me since launch to do it. Here's to hoping I can do them faster from now on.

You should try to get through the first 16? before the patch hits.

 

[matmanx1]

I had an idea for Lucio for the future. What if "speedboost" became a passive attribute that worked for Lucio only? Lucio's speed is part of the character and while it shouldn't be a super fast speed (no more Amp it Up because it's passive) he would enjoy increased survivability and mobility (which is already a strong suit of his).

Taking away his team wide speed buff I would buff his main weapon damage a little bit and up the amount that he heals, both passively and with Amp it Up.

It simplifies the character because he no longer has two songs to play, and that may be a bad thing, but it would make him a stronger AoE healer who is even tougher to bring down because of his mobility. Just a thought.

 

[Redmoon]

You should try to get through the first 16? before the patch hits.

Just need to get to lvl 120 really. Don't know when the patch hits live, but if its this Tuesday, I'll have around 8 hours free to put into the game till then. Should be enough.

 

[Blues1990]

I could see them reducing the spread before increasing her DPS.

I'll be fine with anything. I just want the thing to be a decent weapon, as I can't hack through bullets.

Speaking of which, Blizzard is going out of their way to make Bastion even less viable as a hero. First there was Roadhog's hook, then Ana's dart, & now Sombra's hacking can force Bastion out of turret mode. Does he really need more counters like this? I feel they may have doomed this character's future than they already have.

 

[Jellie]

I had an idea for Lucio for the future. What if "speedboost" became a passive attribute that worked for Lucio only? Lucio's speed is part of the character and while it shouldn't be a super fast speed (no more Amp it Up because it's passive) he would enjoy increased survivability and mobility (which is already a strong suit of his).

Taking away his team wide speed buff I would buff his main weapon damage a little bit and up the amount that he heals, both passively and with Amp it Up.

It simplifies the character because he no longer has two songs to play, and that may be a bad thing, but it would make him a stronger AoE healer who is even tougher to bring down because of his mobility. Just a thought.

Might kill his usage since team based speed is the main reason to play him.

 

[Strootman]

Am I the only one that love to play as mei?

I like being a Dick and freeze people saying "sorry, sorry" 😁

 

[RecRoulette]

Spent most of the weekend learning McCree and Tracer in QP. Didn't realize the Gambler skin and Track and Field skins already have special lines in the game. They're rare, and I think only happen on spawn, but they are in there.

Was hoping for more along the lines of Wolf Hanzo and Mercy's Legendaries. But its still neat.

 

[AbaFadi]

Is there some way to have two of the same hero in comp that I don't know of? I was watching ryujehong's stream and saw the enemy team have double Zarya. You can see it in the link below as well.

https://www.twitch.tv/wpghd321/v/100823295?t=03h47m13s

 

[Jellie]

Is there some way to have two of the same hero in comp that I don't know of? I was watching ryujehong's stream and saw the enemy team have double Zarya. You can see it in the link below as well.



https://www.twitch.tv/wpghd321/v/100823295?t=03h47m13s

If you both press it at the same time you can but when it happened to me I had to switch after the 30 seconds spawn in.

 

[Blues1990]

Am I the only one that love to play as mei?

I like being a Dick and freeze people saying "sorry, sorry" 😁

She's a very potent character, but it all comes down with how smart you are with using Mei's abilities. I personally love using Mei's Ice Wall to combo with a teammate Zarya's Graviton Serge, especially when you can get hilarious results such as this.

 

[Astral/H3X]

So the Dva buffs are effective? I can see with Sombra putting Zarya in check her getting some added boost, but for her to actually be effective? &_&

I don't necessarily want the meta to be based around her, I just want her to not be a bad pick.

 

[Jacqli]

I just had my first POTG as Ana. It feels good. Really good.

 

[Mush]

Anyone else watching the Route 66 cup? That play from Surefour to hold off Faze...

 

[The Wizard]

The GAF group effect™ (2800 to 3200 in one weekend) Seriously though great games Owzers and crew, some of the most fun I've had with this game.

 

[Nuno Pinto]

The GAF group effect™ (2800 to 3200 in one weekend) Seriously though great games Owzers and crew, some of the most fun I've had with this game.

x2

Owzers and Cappa are now diamond

There's just no comparison to soloQ, so much more fun.

 

[Astral]

I give up I suck with everyone.

 

[Wyndstryker]

Your team loses the first point on Anubis, and the supports (Ana, Mercy) are gold silver elims/damage/healing when you have Junkrat, Pharah, Rein, Zarya as the other teammates...

There's definitely a problem here

 

[MrPanic]

So I decided to play some ptr competitive today just to mix things up and really see how Sombra can effect normal matches.

I love playing her on KotH maps, there's something really satisfying about going behind enemy lines and disable the health pack that back-peddlers are probably going for and basically mess their their team up at the choke-point all day.

There's a real delicate balance you gotta keep with her concerning going disruptive and helping the team out in fights. There's probably going to be a night and day difference between good and bad Sombra players, more than most other characters anyway. She's almost like Tjorbjorn in a way where she's really good when you already got the upper hand and almost a liability when your team is struggling, as her ult is really the only effective card she holds to turn a fight around, and that ult requires some good teamwork to be effectively utilized.

It's interesting to see the picks shifted with Sombra in the team. In my experience so far with Sombra as basically a dps/support, instead of having a second heal you get a Soldier as a second dps/support, which definitely seems to have a synergy as the extra damage is needed when Sombra is out denying hp and there's still some soldier healing and hacked health packs around to keep the main support alive. (Soldier is super nice in ptr btw, definitely considering making him a main if he keeps that damage buff)

I definitely warmed up to Sombra now, my initial play test with her left me with a mediocre impression, but giving her a new shot by playing with her and alongside her in some real matches definitely opened my eyes to some good possibilities. Going by the 2gb background update on pc I'm assuming she'll be hitting the real game this Tuesday, so that's gonna be (after the two week noob Sombra period) a lot of fun.