finalflame
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Hilarious to see this after console players were JUST crying a few pages ago about how Blizz doesn't balance for console separately.
But yah, nanobastion meta has arrived boys. Lets embrace it.
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Hilarious to see this after console players were JUST crying a few pages ago about how Blizz doesn't balance for console separately.
But yah, nanobastion meta has arrived boys. Lets embrace it.
Less mobility, shittier hit box and cant heal and damage at same time.
But Bastion has best DPS ult in game and has ironclad...
Newtype-001
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Lool everyone in General saying welcome to bastion meta
finalflame
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It'll be better I assume, but 2CP is still trash forever and always.
Nocturnowl
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So I'm guessing Ironclad is going to be one of those things like the increase of Soldier 76's damage output where if they just put it a notch lower it would be way more acceptable than what we're actually getting.
He has no mobility (which is important for offensive classes), he's a larger target, and his rate of fire is 20% lower than Soldier (which means his damage is significantly lower.)
He also doesn't have a rocket. New Bastion is good but that comparison is whack.
finalflame
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His turret form in Rein v. Rein matches will absolutely shred enemy shields. To the point where if you don't also have a Bastion, you're going to lose the shield war.
Not to mention he practically cannot be killed if nano ulted.
Kinda wish I had gotten the Blizzcon pass now for the skin. I really never thought Blizz would put Bastion back into the meta. Fuck.
Argh, my brain isn't braining right now. What does this mean?
racketpunch
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Did nano bastion get nerfed at all?
No rockets, though. That's a big enough difference
So on any non KOTH map, defender respawns will start to delay as long as the attacking team has a numbers advantage. Basically encourages defending teams to get kills rather than stall or it's all over.
FiveSix4Three
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Its great to know Winston is near useless for the foreseeable future. Every game will have an enemy bastion.
I mean there are some shield tricks you can pull, but more often than not he will wreck you.
I mean there are some shield tricks you can pull, but more often than not he will wreck you.
finalflame
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If the attacking team is takingpoint B and has more heroes than the defense on point, the defense respawn timer will keep increasing either until:
(a) It hits a maximum arbitrary value.
(b) The defense manages to have more heroes on B than the attack.
It will make it harder for the defense to respawn fast enough to counter the remaining attack heroes on B, making B more reasonable to take by the attack.
Looking straight at you, Anubis.
But this has always been the case?
If you're referring to me, you'll notice that I already addressed this in my post. Furthermore, this is just a step back from a change they implemented more than 6 months ago, so it doesn't really count since Blizz has only balanced console-specific matters in this area and this area alone.
Nah, Sombra and Tracer counter Rein shields pretty well. Bastions only shred shields before getting destroyed at the lower levels.
Terareflection
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Ironclad shouldn't be in Tank mode. WTF blizzard.
I think the rest of his changes are okay though.
I think the rest of his changes are okay though.
ivanthebearable
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I'm totally fine with Bastion passing through. The meta could use a shake up like him.
Ah, so no more Tracer stalling by porting around the point until team respawns. Gotcha. Thanks, I had a derp moment lol
finalflame
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You think a company as huge as Blizz doesn't watch game telemetry and match data to determine where console needs separate balancing? Your perception of reality is not more valid than Blizzard's data-supported decisions. Accept it.
Also I wasn't referring to you specifically, but just in general.
Yah, but Bastion was not otherwise viable past that, and was easily countered. With Ironclad and his faster transform, he can viably hop into/out of Sentry much faster, and will still be a reliable DPS with his added healing + mobility buffs. Not to mention nanotank is going to be virtually invincible, with Ana still heavily in the meta.
Several map variations for the CTF mode were included w/ the server browser.
The Artful Dodger
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I'm sure there are hidden files and stuff. Wait till somebody does a deep dive and reveals all sorts of shit.
Oh right forgot they added CTF to all KotH maps.
That is going to be amazing to watch. They'll probably queue into other pro teams lol.
TheLetdown
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Insalocked bastion in the new Nepal (puke) CTF map.
Here we go.
Here we go.
finalflame
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Godspeed.
Vault Dweller 111
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I need to watch this.
Or they want more people hacking and shuting down his turret as sombra
Red Arremer
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Add in the CTF variations on the control point maps that also have additional rooms attached to them.
There wasn't gonna be a new hero on live anyway, they'd go to PTR first.
EroticSushi
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Didn't they say that they thought their ways of teasing Sombra was taken well? I'm not really surprised if they keep teasing this character on and on.
Vault Dweller 111
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They've said the opposite
racketpunch
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Welp time to play with and against Bastion all night during my placements. T_T
TheLetdown
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Bugged and I can't see heroes, even on POTG.
Started midway trough but we won. Stuck on end screen so... ???
This is the ARG that never ends.
Yes it goes on and on, my friends!
Some people started seeing it not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue seeing it forever just because...
This is the ARG that never ends.
Yes it goes on and on, my friends!
Some people started seeing it not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue seeing it forever just because...
This is the ARG that never ends.
Yes it goes on and on, my friends!
Some people started seeing it not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue seeing it forever just because...
They've been wrong before.
SilentRacoon
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Are they not planning non- seasonal new skins? Was hoping to see some new stuff.
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