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Overwatch |OT9| There is no Cow Hero
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I've gotten Earth Shattered while on top of a payload. It needs to be reduced further. Actually, why does it have height?
because jump spamming doenst have a cd
LucidMomentum
Member
If you wanted DPS you go McCree anyways.
Soldier is for utility, heal, and movement which is a big part of pubs.
Yay on Rein changes, and I say that as a mostly Rein player this season.
Soldier is for utility, heal, and movement which is a big part of pubs.
Yay on Rein changes, and I say that as a mostly Rein player this season.
Nocturnowl
Member
Liking the sound of all of those potential changes (especially Soldier, that one number could make quite a pleasant difference) except the Shimada Bros, no I don't want arrow spam to be faster!
Cheat Code
Member
Orisa does not need that. She's shit.
Also nice to see Blizzard making Pharmercy even more fucking OP.
Also nice to see Blizzard making Pharmercy even more fucking OP.
UltimaPooh
Member
Oh, Soldier nerf ain't so bad.
Orisa didn't need a damn CD reduction.
Oh yeah. That CD is ridiculous.
Hope you like Pharah
dude youve been complaining about 76 since the buff, you brought this on yourself
I feel like new characters won't ever become popular because of stuff like this. They need to make them OP or at least powerful so people at least try to play and learn them.
Orisa is garbage and became even more garbage. When Doomfist will be released we'll laugh at Terry Crews' voicelines and forget about him in one week.
Ana was unintentionally OP and became popular. Sombra and Orisa can easily be removed at this point.
Orisa is garbage and became even more garbage. When Doomfist will be released we'll laugh at Terry Crews' voicelines and forget about him in one week.
Ana was unintentionally OP and became popular. Sombra and Orisa can easily be removed at this point.
Terareflection
Member
Pharah will destroy on console, oh well. Worth it. I can finally stop playing soldier
Hazardous Metal
Member
kind of cant believe they nerfed orisa's damage. I was just starting to like her too
I'm seeing a lot of doom and gloom about Orisa and after playing with her/against her on the PTR I actually like her now. Her shield is constantly up now with almost zero downtime. She's going to be great for stationary defense, especially when combined with Torb/Rein etc.
She does anyway. Soldier only reliably kills her with his ult, and the nerf doesn't change that much.Pharah will destroy on console, oh well. Worth it. I can finally stop playing soldier
For all that, I don't have that much problem with them despite rarely playing their counters. *shrug*
Pharah will destroy on console, oh well. Worth it. I can finally stop playing soldier
Console torb buff when
The Hanzo damage buff is so unnecessary, I don't understand what they're trying to accomplish with it even after their explanation.
This is a PTR patch, not live game.No Lucio nerf? What a joke. No idea how that even made it past ptr
No Lucio nerf? What a joke. No idea how that even made it past ptr
what
They're trying to get his pro usage to 100%. It's only at 99 right now.No Lucio nerf? What a joke. No idea how that even made it past ptr
They're trying to get his pro usage to 100%. It's only at 99 right now.
To make it 0% they need to remove his ability to use speed boost. Everyone plays him not because of his damage, healing or ult.
They're trying to get his pro usage to 100%. It's only at 99 right now.
Seriously....lets just buff the most used character in the game to lower his usage. Blows my mind.
More opportunities for you to kill them!Haha, it never fails. When I'm killing a ton of guys as Hanzo, I become the main target. They so mad.
Haha, it never fails. When I'm killing a ton of guys as Hanzo, I become the main target. They so mad.
Errr... I thought you were referring to my post but I guess you're just randomly commenting on this?
Orisa lawst lol
Was actually thinking about the possibly making the turret back to launch levels. Wouldn't be surprised tbh.Console torb buff when
Errr... I thought you were referring to my post but I guess you're just randomly commenting on this?
Naw, I just played some QP earlier.
No Lucio nerf? What a joke. No idea how that even made it past ptr
What do you want nerfed
dude youve been complaining about 76 since the buff, you brought this on yourself
I always caveatd it with Pharah needed to get hit at the same time as him.
Dead Prince
Banned
not even a nerf to hanzo scatter arrow. the full charged sounds neat. but interesting for people who just blindly shoot.
Hazardous Metal
Member
Hanzo is definitely more viable now. You can fire off so many shots. I don't feel like I'm fucked if I miss an arrow anymore.
Hazardous Metal
Member
The new kill feed is cool. Assists show up as a smaller portrait next to the larger portrait of the player that dealt the final blow.
It's going to take some getting used to. I honestly have found it distracting but more so in the way new alerts in the kill feed pop up.
RespectThySole
Member
Nice changes, still yet to fix hook's on different levels fucking up
It's not in the patch notes but people on Reddit are saying that bug was fixed too.
ScottSullivan
Member
Sully907#1429 if anyone wants to team in HOTS, i played it before the 2.0 update i won't throw on purpose
SmackAttack
Member
Sounds like a neat touch to show that, yes, you indeed had help with that elim.The new kill feed is cool. Assists show up as a smaller portrait next to the larger portrait of the player that dealt the final blow.
Haha, it never fails. When I'm killing a ton of guys as Hanzo, I become the main target. They so mad.
Not gonna lie, one of the biggest reasons I started playing Winston so much is because I have such an easy time chasing down Hanzos with him. Even if I lose the match it's always a good time racking up Gold or Silver elims on the backs of Hanzo (and Genji/Widow/Mercy/Soldier too I guess)
ScottSullivan
Member
Not gonna lie, one of the biggest reasons I started playing Winston so much is because I have such an easy time chasing down Hanzos with him. Even if I lose the match it's always a good time racking up Gold or Silver elims on the backs of Hanzo (and Genji/Widow/Mercy/Soldier too I guess)
This is kinda why Winston ender up as my de facto main. SO many lucios and genjis in almost ever comp game I just got good with him, not to mention the easy to kill zenyattas or mercys on the backline
No Lucio nerf? What a joke. No idea how that even made it past ptr
Lucio was recently nerfed though...
While he now brings much more to the table in terms of immediate impact, the nerf to his auras was very significant. Enough that he needs to actually be in the right place and properly positioned.
Not gonna lie, one of the biggest reasons I started playing Winston so much is because I have such an easy time chasing down Hanzos with him. Even if I lose the match it's always a good time racking up Gold or Silver elims on the backs of Hanzo (and Genji/Widow/Mercy/Soldier too I guess)
He's my Widow killer.
This is kinda why Winston ender up as my de facto main. SO many lucios and genjis in almost ever comp game I just got good with him, not to mention the easy to kill zenyattas or mercys on the backline
Yep, I have never seen a saltier OW player than when I chased a Mercy all the way to their base in Oasis and killed her in front of the door right before she stepped through. I could have bathed in it.
I dunno why i seem to be able to get away with it so often on Winston since he's not really a sneaky character but I won't argue with the results. I wish i could flank half as well on Sombra/Tracer.
He's my Widow killer.
Agree, but bullshit Scattershots and arrows from Hanzos i literally can't see trigger me more than anything Widow does for some reason. As a rule thought I get even monkey murder style rather than getting upset.
Probably the amount of healing he does would be a good place to start imo. Its so easy to just jump into bad situation, switch to heal to get some life back, then get the hell out with speed boost. Also I can boop characters like roadhog off the map from mid point on the objective (I don't recall if they upped his boop in the new patch, I believe they did). I'd be ok with either a longer cool down or a somewhat reduced pushback range.What do you want nerfed
Lucio was recently nerfed though...
While he now brings much more to the table in terms of immediate impact, the nerf to his auras was very significant. Enough that he needs to actually be in the right place and properly positioned.
If were referring to the original aura buff (yes its a buff not a nerf) then no way in hell. It might have a smaller area of effect but they also made them heal a good bit more than before. I don't know anyone who thinks that that change was a nerf (Unless there was another patch that i missed).
f were referring to the original aura buff (yes its a buff not a nerf) then no way in hell. It might have a smaller area of effect but they also made them heal a good bit more than before. I don't know anyone who thinks that that change was a nerf (Unless there was another patch that i missed).
It was a nerf to the area of effect and a buff to the numbers yea. That was the point though, cause they were more interested in nerfing his Speed Boost effectiveness than the amount he can heal for. And in that regard they definitely succeeded.
In general it was a buff to his healing though, and to be fair they will probably have to nerf him again since it didn't seem to have much impact on his play/win rate. I'm still not sure if he's objectively more broken than Ana, but he's definitely much easier to use. I do think his gun damage could be toned down a bit with the amount of healing he can do while actively attacking, but that's just my musing. Not sure if that would matter.
The new kill feed is cool. Assists show up as a smaller portrait next to the larger portrait of the player that dealt the final blow.
Any pictures for those without access to PTR
or those who can't be bothered to play a game on PTR.
Probably the amount of healing he does would be a good place to start imo. Its so easy to just jump into bad situation, switch to heal to get some life back, then get the hell out with speed boost. Also I can boop characters like roadhog off the map from mid point on the objective (I don't recall if they upped his boop in the new patch, I believe they did). I'd be ok with either a longer cool down or a somewhat reduced pushback range.
If were referring to the original aura buff (yes its a buff not a nerf) then no way in hell. It might have a smaller area of effect but they also made them heal a good bit more than before. I don't know anyone who thinks that that change was a nerf (Unless there was another patch that i missed).
Lucio's healing, evasiveness and damage (all the things buffed) are not the reasons his pick rate is so high.
Lucio is picked solely because of speed boost. The nerfing speed boost received was actually quite aggressive. To the point where he actually now requires skill to leverage that ability. Which was the point of the nerf: require a ton more skill to play him the same as he was before.
I think we need to give the nerf time to settle, but if things stay pretty much the same, then we can conclude that one of two things need to happen in order to significantly lower his pick rate:
-Speed boost needs to be rendered worthless
-The rest of Lucio's kit needs to be nerfed into the ground
Either option pretty much kills the character.
Hanzo is definitely more viable now. You can fire off so many shots. I don't feel like I'm fucked if I miss an arrow anymore.
That's the entire point of having so much time between arrow shots, he can instakill a good chunk of the cast already so what keeps that in balance is that you need good accuracy to do so. The fire speed buff only serves to benefit players who spam arrows with bad accuracy. Now we'll have Hanzo's wallclimbing and shooting fully charged arrows over cover too.
Those two changes make absolutely zero sense to me.
Psychoward
Banned
They... buffed Orisa's barrier? and... nerfed her damage?
Uh, I think they've got it backwards lol.
Also Soldier nerf is nice but on console I hope they've got a McCree damage buff lined up any second for Pharah....
Uh, I think they've got it backwards lol.
Also Soldier nerf is nice but on console I hope they've got a McCree damage buff lined up any second for Pharah....