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Overwatch |OT9| There is no Cow Hero

SoulUnison

Banned
The number of Reinhardt's and Orisa's that hide behind their barriers and then get confused when they're hit/killed by Symmetra's alt-fire lately is ridiculous.
I've flat out been accused of hacking. As Symmetra. (JackieChanWhaaaaa?.jpg)

This team never made it out of spawn the entire match.

It was basically three and a half minutes of "running through this doorway one at a time hasn't worked so far, but I'm feeling special."
That Tracer that does a perfect swan dive over the railing kills me. "Wicked!"
 

NeoRaider

Member
When she barricades herself into a corner on a point it's the worst.

Ikr??
But at the same time i feel like hiding behind her shield is the only way for her to survive and stay alive for more than a minute. I feel like this character was a mistake for this game. It just... doesn't fit and it looks out of place.
 

Sande

Member
It's not that I entirely disagree with you, but the fact is that there are a lot of wonky physics beyond this. Symmetra's hand motion doesn't make a lot of sense to me for how she produces her shield (she makes an upwards pinching motion, producing a floating gadget that goes forward?), Genji's shuriken shouldn't be able to fit in his harm, how can Sombra hack Roadhog's gas cannister or Soldier's ability to run and so on, not to mention the fact that premise of the game has some characters working with characters they should never get along with (Widowmaker: Hi Ana, how's the eye!), or even the fact that they are fighting clones of themselves.

Overwatch. It don't make sense, but they'll do it if they feel it helps the game. And now, Hanzo players don't have to worry about basically reloading to get their shot off when climbing. And I think that's worth it. If it bugs you that much, you can just pretend it's actually just a feature where he reloads superfast after climbing if he readies himself beforehand.
I posted a short message on a forum. I'm not losing my sleep over it.

Inconsistent/nonsensical animations should always be avoided. I'm fine with the Hanzo change mechanically, but they should bring the animation up to date with the actual mechanic if they're going to go through with it.
 

hypernima

Banned
The number of Reinhardt's and Orisa's that hide behind their barriers and then get confused when they're hit/killed by Symmetra's alt-fire lately is ridiculous.
I've flat out been accused of hacking. As Symmetra. (JackieChanWhaaaaa?.jpg)

That's literally the one of the ways I get so far as Attack Sym in Plat.

Because Reins/Orisas just sit there while I build 20% per ball.

:|
 

Shahadan

Member
There's something wrong with Sombra, sometimes when I press the translocator button, she throws her arm but not the item. Really annoying.
Fortunately it doesn't use the cd but still
 

Paltheos

Member
I'm kinda mad they make you play the Oni Genji games over again if you already did it last year.

Yeah, that was kind of annoying. They bundled the OW Oni stuff with some different HOTS vehicles so you really have no choice but to do it again... and for fewer games than last year. Thankfully I finished my 10 games... kinda swiftly? I think I took upwards of 4 hours to do all 10. In a couple weeks I might play the next full 10 for those lootboxes.
 

Veelk

Banned
Got the D.Va skin and couldn't uninstall fast enough.

I don't know why I got it. It's cute, but I prefer her other skins. And even if I didn't, I could have gotten it later.

But then...no, I couldn't. I had to have it. Now.

And if the price of that is HotS, then I must pay it. But I didn't pay it gladly.

(Lost 8 out of 10 of the matches because the group I picked were throwers one of whom kept asking for loli porn. I mean, I don't actually care, but no one likes that kind of w/l ratio or that kind of company)
 

LiK

Member
Yeah, that was kind of annoying. They bundled the OW Oni stuff with some different HOTS vehicles so you really have no choice but to do it again... and for fewer games than last year. Thankfully I finished my 10 games... kinda swiftly? I think I took upwards of 4 hours to do all 10. In a couple weeks I might play the next full 10 for those lootboxes.

Week 1 should've been optional. People who already had the Genji skin should've been exempt. Whatever, at least they allowed AI for it.
 

I-hate-u

Member
If Orisa's buff goes into live then we will have serious problems for choke point maps like King's Row or Hanamura.

Rein shield + Orisa Shield + Symmetra shields = if you ain't running a dive comp, you ain't passing through.
 
I was in a group of randoms that friended up for the event in HotS.

All 5 of us were under level 5. Other group? 1 who was 70, another that was in the 50s, with some teens mixed in. Someone in the group goes, "Let's throw this one." As if we had a choice.

I thought of all of the folks who hate OW's matchmaking and poured one out.
 

woolley

Member
As if Genji needed another movement buff. He's hard enough to kill on consoles as is, god forbid he's vulnerable for half a second.
 
If Orisa's buff goes into live then we will have serious problems for choke point maps like King's Row or Hanamura.

Rein shield + Orisa Shield + Symmetra shields = if you ain't running a dive comp, you ain't passing through.

You should be running a dive comp anyways, considering how powerful it is on attack and defense. Orisa's change just makes stationary defense more potent.
 

Paltheos

Member
I think people asking for McCree buffs are misguided on the character. His purpose is disabling and taking out highly mobile characters - Tracer and Genji mainly - And he can do a few other things too, like forcing down a Rein shield for a combo. He's a disabler DPS. That's what he does. I'm not sure what buff you could apply to him that wouldn't go too far. Increasing his damage on the disable or fire makes one-shotting *any* 200 HP hero in any situation easier, no? I don't have that much McCree experience, but can he anyone who plays the character allot tell me how reliable FtH kills are on awkwardly stunned or far away heroes now that were at full health before and whom you're facing in 1v1 situations? That's really the primary concern. Not sure how comfortable I'd be with a McCree that can one-shot a wide number of heroes.

Orisa changes seem... fine? The damage on that gun was pretty dang high already. Dunno about 15% drop but sure whatever. I'm kinda more concerned about the buff, which most of you don't seem to care about. A CD reduction from 12 to 8 seconds? For a stationary shield that operates independent of the user and can be replaced for full? That's huge.
 

rulerk1

Member
Wtf at them nerfing Orisa's damage. Who complained about that?

I'm also kind of worried about her buffed barrier especially with the soft soldier nerf. No soldier, junk, or hog means barriers are not breaking any time soon :(
Maybe I can just be annoying with my barrier too lol
 

I-hate-u

Member
You should be running a dive comp anyways, considering how powerful it is on attack and defense. Orisa's change just makes stationary defense more potent.

I am not opposed to playing dive heroes, but I feel much more confident in the standard triple tank comps. Primarily b/c dive needs much more coordination which is hard to achieve in solo-q.
 

LiK

Member
I am not opposed to playing dive heroes, but I feel much more confident in the standard triple tank comps. Primarily b/c dive needs much more coordination which is hard to achieve in solo-q.

Dive with a stack that doesn't play together much is also incredibly hard.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Maybe give McCree a bit more range with his grenade and roll, but he hits like a fucking truck already. He doesn't need a fix.

Orisa didn't need the shield buff at all. The last thing she needed was it. Fix her movement and maybe decrease damage and increase projection velocity. But not the shield.
 

Chance

Member
I feel like this Reaper buff is underrated and will become much more significant that initially thought.

I feel it's a plus for Reaper, but significant would be allowing him to cancel out of wraith form at will, with the auto reload intact.
 

Silexx

Member
I feel it's a plus for Reaper, but significant would be allowing him to cancel out of wraith form at will, with the auto reload intact.

I mean, that would obviously huge, but nonetheless, this current change opens up a ton of options to use with Wraith form in a more offensive capacity.
 

Mutombo

Member
So, are you console players running into folks who are probably playing with a mouse and keyboard? Seeing some of my death-cams makes me say "the jezus christ", and I'm on gold. I was playing against a team were maybe two to three players had impeccable aim - sensitivity that is almost impossible with the control stick - and boy, did we notice.

We got wrecked and it was no fun.
 

Ramirez

Member
So Tracer and Genji will own Orisa even harder than they already do with the damage nerf. It is not easy hitting them with that slow ass gunfire while they zip around you, lol.
 
So, are you console players running into folks who are probably playing with a mouse and keyboard? Seeing some of my death-cams makes me say "the jezus christ", and I'm on gold. I was playing against a team were maybe two to three players had impeccable aim - sensitivity that is almost impossible with the control stick - and boy, did we notice.

We got wrecked and it was no fun.

Oh of course, on a daily basis.
There's a reason the number of Widowmakers sky-rocketed on PS4 compared to last year.

I finally understand the grief PC players had with her.
 

LiK

Member
So, are you console players running into folks who are probably playing with a mouse and keyboard? Seeing some of my death-cams makes me say "the jezus christ", and I'm on gold. I was playing against a team were maybe two to three players had impeccable aim - sensitivity that is almost impossible with the control stick - and boy, did we notice.

We got wrecked and it was no fun.

Seen it often particularly with smurf accounts. Usually Widows.
 

Sande

Member
Shadow step needs some love. Maybe the closer you teleport the faster it is so it wouldn't be completely useless for anything other getting to high ground and out of spawn.

Or how about being able to combo wraithform and shadow step? Being invulnerable during the end of the teleport, when you're normally a free kill, would be sweet.

In any case, to me shadow step is definitely the problem in Reaper's kit. It's just way too clunky and risky to use most of the time.
 

accx

Member
Getting some Ana-training done.

I started with hitting enemies + allies. I could not hit the sleep dart for the life of me.

I can now hit 'sick sleep darts' but healing allies is a pita.


I should prolly get better at positioning as Ana. Kind of want to main her but she's useless when i'm running her.
 

JHall

Member
I feel like this Reaper buff is underrated and will become much more significant that initially thought.

It's going to take a lot more than a slight reloading buff to make Reaper relevant. Roadhog is better than Reaper in every way at the moment.
 

antitrop

Member
It's going to take a lot more than a slight reloading buff to make Reaper relevant. Roadhog is better than Reaper in every way at the moment.

Even if Reaper got a significant buff, Pharmercy is so "in" right now that he would still be a bad pick almost all of the time.
 

Roubjon

Member
I'm never too bummed about Mouse Widowmakers on Consoles because all I really have to do is treat Widowmaker like an actual threat, something that I never have to do otherwise. I just have to stay out of her line of sight and make her a priority to take down.
 
So I'm mainly a Genji player or Tracer.

I suck so much at support and only do Rein when no one else will and it makes sense for the situation.


But God I sure do love me some Genji.
 

LiK

Member
I'm never too bummed about Mouse Widowmakers on Consoles because all I really have to do is treat Widowmaker like an actual threat, something that I never have to do otherwise. I just have to stay out of her line of sight and make her a priority to take down.

Nowadays, I'll just go Winston to harrass and kill them. Whatever it takes to make them have a hard time. It blows when you can clearly see it's a mouse Widow and they're just destroying everyone.
 

DR2K

Banned
The number of Reinhardt's and Orisa's that hide behind their barriers and then get confused when they're hit/killed by Symmetra's alt-fire lately is ridiculous.
I've flat out been accused of hacking. As Symmetra. (JackieChanWhaaaaa?.jpg)

This team never made it out of spawn the entire match.

It was basically three and a half minutes of "running through this doorway one at a time hasn't worked so far, but I'm feeling special."
That Tracer that does a perfect swan dive over the railing kills me. "Wicked!"

Sym is getting a lot more out of attack because of all the barriers and stationary turrets behind them. Really easy to build ult charge and ruin the enemy's composition.l behind all those barriers.
 

Fugu

Member
Widow's whole kit is abysmal. I honestly don't know why she's always selected. The most boring abilities in the game.

She needs a lot of changes. Her hook takes far too long to recharge. Genji can constantly double jump and climb walls but you have to wait twelve seconds to use a hook? Come on.

Her Ult is a complete joke when another character has that same ability every, what? 15 seconds?

The poison mine is...I mean what even is it?
Widow is balanced by the fact that she can escape some of the time but not all of the time. Most of the characters in the game are specifically capable of dealing with her because she can't always run away.

Shortening the hook's cooldown by even two seconds would seriously diminish the ability of basically everyone but Winston and Genji to kill her.
 
Ikr??
But at the same time i feel like hiding behind her shield is the only way for her to survive and stay alive for more than a minute. I feel like this character was a mistake for this game. It just... doesn't fit and it looks out of place.

yeah they could have oh i don't know, buffed her hit points instead of lowering her already insane and unfun to fight against barrier cooldown while nerfing her average damage?

naw that'd be crazy

Edit: Hopefully the 1 year anniversary event is the first permanent event, especially since it would come only a few weeks after the last one
 

AbaFadi

Banned
So, are you console players running into folks who are probably playing with a mouse and keyboard? Seeing some of my death-cams makes me say "the jezus christ", and I'm on gold. I was playing against a team were maybe two to three players had impeccable aim - sensitivity that is almost impossible with the control stick - and boy, did we notice.

We got wrecked and it was no fun.

I don't really pay attention because most console players don't mouse and keyboard like some people seem to think.
 
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