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[N7.Angel]

seriously some people on high Diamond deserved to be on gold tier, fucking awful, I don't even know how they got here.

 

[komaruR]

Reinhardt: "EVERYBODY GROUP UP!"
Soldier: "I'm just gonna peek to build some ulti-----*dies*"
Reinhardt: "EVERYBODY GROUP UP!"
McCree: "Their healer is overextended, I'm just gonna try to----*dies*
Reinhardt: "EVERYBODY GROUP UP!"

Repeat ad infinitum until match ends and you have reached maximum tilt

thats why i can never be tank. by the time mccree goes and dies, I'll start doing something stupid

 

[SgtWiggles]

thats why i can never be tank. by the time mccree goes and dies, I'll start doing something stupid

I play a very aggresive Reinhardt, so it annoys me even more when I have to stand around doing nothing or my teammates won't follow me up on what would have been a successful push.

 

[Berserking Guts]

Xp be damned, I'm sick of being put in these stomp qp games. Quit, quit, quit, quit. Fuck your defeats.

 

[N7.Angel]

I play a very aggresive Reinhardt, so it annoys me even more when I have to stand around doing nothing or my teammates won't follow me up on what would have been a successful push.

You're right though, it's exactly how I play it too, you need to go very aggressive and hope to have descent support...

 

[Owzers]

I think I played too much overwatch last night, playing today felt iffy, but seeing what's up in about 20 min for a few more games. This Legion show is really good.

 

[Hazardous Metal]

Another full day of playing and only managed to gain 9 SR. I literally won 2, lost 2 all day. I guess it could be worse but it just feels like wasted time. I even tried Reinhardt/Zarya and while those games went well, the next one after would always have a thrower or 1 trick. Just getting really soured on the game as a whole because of the community.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Just played against the best Widow I've ever seen by far. We won, I legitimately felt bad, she was the best player in the game by far.

 

[Terareflection]

Just played against the best Widow I've ever seen by far. We won, I legitimately felt bad, she was the best player in the game by far.

I don't respect good widows because I assume they're using m/kb until proven otherwise(which is never)

 

[Geneijin]

Randoms with tempers (same guy on the same team in my last 2 losses). Holy shit. Just so toxic.

 

[Geneijin]

Yeah, looks like the weekend no match rule is back on. Lost all my games today, last one just turned into a salt/insult fest among our team and me just leaving the team chat.

Wait a minute. Your name is kind of familiar. Was this on Volskaya by any chance and there was a certain person playign Widow and Torbjorn on attack the first round?

Edit: Whoops. Double post.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

I don't respect good widows because I assume they're using m/kb until proven otherwise(which is never)

Very possible, but this dude would've been nutty even on PC. He had like 450 hours on Widow. I give him props.

 

[Blizzard]

People who recommend Reinhardt for ranking up, I am astounded that you'd have any success.

At PC 1900 elo, the amount of times I get healing as a Reinhardt in front of the objective are maybe once every 1-3 minutes, and the number of times more than 2 teammates are near me is about that often.

 

[Data West]

are they EVER going to fix quick play matchmaking? do they even care?

why do I CONSTANTLY get matched up against fucking grandmasters? this is the closest i've ever come to uninstalling this piece of shit

 

[Oxn]

Uhh guys im starting to enjoy playing Orisa. Too bad its hard to rank with her.

 

[Fugu]

People who recommend Reinhardt for ranking up, I am astounded that you'd have any success.

At PC 1900 elo, the amount of times I get healing as a Reinhardt in front of the objective are maybe once every 1-3 minutes, and the number of times more than 2 teammates are near me is about that often.

Rein works for ranking up once you're already at a decent rating since he is so essential to so many maps that not having a Rein player on your team is a troubling prospect. It is also a very common one and many a game is lost because either a) nobody on the team picks Rein and you need one or b) the guy who picks Rein because the team needs one isn't very good at him.

Being a good Rein will make you an asset on just about every team you play on since he can form the basis of a lot of comps. This is somewhat less true in this season than last, but I'd say it's still pretty applicable. There are few characters that you will get as much mileage out of learning.

For what it's worth, at 1900 I'd instalock whatever DPS I'm best at (in my case Pharah) every game and just go to town.

 

[Owzers]

Bastion was today's breaking point, we need to harness this for team Gaf.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Bastion was today's breaking point, we need to harness this for team Gaf.

That was tough. Don't even know what we could've done. TJ said another Bastion would've maybe worked.

The Orisa was feeling amazing, really wish we could've won that one.

 

[Blizzard]

For what it's worth, at 1900 I'd instalock whatever DPS I'm best at (in my case Pharah) every game and just go to town.

That's what I used to do (I main Pharah and DVa) but I was trying the Reinhardt suggestion because it seemed consensus was Rein or Zarya is needed to rank up at low ranks.

 

[SgtWiggles]

Wait a minute. Your name is kind of familiar. Was this on Volskaya by any chance and there was a certain person playign Widow and Torbjorn on attack the first round?

Edit: Whoops. Double post.

Sorry for late reply but nope. Haven't gotten Volskaya all day today.

 

[Nuno Pinto]

I blame the bug.

At least the games were much better than the ones before.

American randoms >>>>>> european randoms

I guess it's a matter of language since not everyone speaks english here.

 

[Owzers]

That was tough. Don't even know what we could've done. TJ said another Bastion would've maybe worked.

The Orisa was feeling amazing, really wish we could've won that one.

We need to recruit a bastion main from the other PS4 teams.

 

[LiK]

Got P5 Platinum. Anyone wanna do some HOTS for the Week 3 quest?

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

One more Lucio win and my Comp and Lucio win rates hit 50% for the season.

We've come a long way from the 33% win rate troll pick.

 

[Nuno Pinto]

One more Lucio win and my Comp and Lucio win rates hit 50% for the season.

We've come a long way from the 33% win rate troll pick.

With really amazing stats. Good stuff.

If only we could say the same about owzers mercy...

Also found the fucker, freaking huge centipede, holy shit.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Also found the fucker, freaking huge centipede, holy shit.

Gross. I hate that kind of shit.

So we need to have a serious discussion about the difference between American and EU servers. The EU games are absolutely awful. So bad that I want to start bringing it up as a counterpoint in OffTopic anti America threads.

 

[Owzers]

With really amazing stats. Good stuff.

If only we could say the same about owzers mercy...

Also found the fucker, freaking huge centipede, holy shit.

I object.

To centipedes and this Mercy talk, I was healing all kinds of people that game on Illios , I probably should have died more.

 

[Nuno Pinto]

Gross. I hate that kind of shit.

So we need to have a serious discussion about the difference between American and EU servers. The EU games are absolutely awful. So bad that I want to start bringing it up as a counterpoint in OffTopic anti America threads.

The last few days have been always the same shit, you cappa and me, european servers, no one talks and people throwing games immediately if things don't start well. Not saying this doesn't happen in other places, but from our recent experience it's a really huge difference.

I played 2 games soloq today and honestly I don't know how to play that ow anymore, it's a toin coss, nothing makes sense.

I object.

To centipedes and this Mercy talk, I was healing all kinds of people that game on Illios , I probably should have died more.

You probably should get out in the open more often when the enemy soldier is ulting, I heard that's what pro mercys do

Also you made me play a full round as pharah against a s76 and mccree with your rezzes.

 

[LiK]

I guess Comp didn't go so well tonight eh

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

I guess Comp didn't go so well tonight eh

It actually went pretty well. Just a bad last game and we like to make fun of Owzers.

 

[Nuno Pinto]

I guess Comp didn't go so well tonight eh

Started bad and it ended well, I think it was like this 3 or 4 days in a row.

That's the reason for this european vs american servers talk, the games later in the day have been way better, I don't think it's a coincidence.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Started bad and it ended well, I think it was like this 3 or 4 days in a row.

That's the reason for this european vs american servers talk, the games later in the day have been way better, I don't think it's a coincidence.

I'm always excited about the you me Cappa stack, it's in the morning for me. And then the teammates ruin everything.

 

[Nuno Pinto]

I'm always excited about the you me Cappa stack, it's in the morning for me. And then the teammates ruin everything.

If he can get that vpn thing working and the game recognizes you both as being from america I assume we are going to play in your servers. Hopefully the games are better.

Tomorrow I won't touch the game unless it's a 5-6 stack, weekend is here o_o

 

[pizzacat]

LAST SEASON DIAMOND

NEXT SEASON GM

all thanks to annes training :.)

 

[Nimby]

are they EVER going to fix quick play matchmaking? do they even care?

why do I CONSTANTLY get matched up against fucking grandmasters? this is the closest i've ever come to uninstalling this piece of shit

Console is terrible. Every game there is some Widow, McCree, Genji god using m+kb. I wish Sony/Microsoft would just allow full m+kb support at this point.

 

[komaruR]

If he can get that vpn thing working and the game recognizes you both as being from america I assume we are going to play in your servers. Hopefully the games are better.

Tomorrow I won't touch the game unless it's a 5-6 stack, weekend is here o_o

I'm always excited about the you me Cappa stack, it's in the morning for me. And then the teammates ruin everything.

or is it that you get pit against eu players? then your stack communicate wheres the other team dont?

 

[LordofPwn]

Play Zarya, stomp enemy team 29 elims 23 high energy. 1 Grav kill. Why Grav when they melt?. Gain 21SR.

Play Lucio on Lijiang person disconnects, then reconnects when 2 others leave. Lose match lose 23SR

Well fuck you too blizzard.

All in all only lost 8 SR after all of my matches today which isn't too bad. But man some of them today I don't know what my teammates were thinking. Refused to push on Eichenwalde. We Rez I get a 4 man rocket barrage before dying. It's 5v2 and only 2 people get on the point. Could have capped but no. Smh... Had a match on Gibralter where a master player deranked down to platinum on the enemy team and they wrecked us. Mercy Rein Orisa McCree bastion and Pharah. My defense team has torb road Hanzo Genji mercy and rein, aka no shield break. Does the Genji Hanzo or torb switch? No of course not. I try to get people to group up and they don't listen rein just charges in and keeps us staggered.
The only thing I could think of to counter it was DVa to negate bastion for a couple seconds. Enough for maybe someone to do something. Was horrible.

 

[Hazardous Metal]

Am I a bad person for looking forwards to new skins? There's something about adding to a collection of time-gated skins that really appeals to me.

 

[Veelk]

Am I a bad person for looking forwards to new skins? There's something about adding to a collection of time-gated skins that really appeals to me.

I'm the same way, and yes, we are bad people.

 

[LordofPwn]

I'm the same way, and yes, we are bad people.

Same. Can't get enough of new skins

 

[Blues1990]

Am I a bad person for looking forward to new skins? There's something about adding to a collection of time-gated skins that really appeals to me.

I'm still waiting for Zarya getting some kick ass Legendary skins.

 

[ponpo]

solo q, hanamura defense, a duo queue is on my team picking joke characters, get destroyed

don't want to bother putting in effort for an obvious thrown game, our turn to attack, go torbjorn, somehow get 24 elims, win round

Save me from this garbage nightmare of console play and donate a PC pls.

 

[LordofPwn]

solo q, hanamura defense, a duo queue is on my team picking joke characters, get destroyed

don't want to bother putting in effort for an obvious thrown game, our turn to attack, go torbjorn, somehow get 24 elims, win round

Save me from this garbage nightmare of console play and donate a PC pls.

What joke characters?

 

[ponpo]

What joke characters?

bastion and widowmaker iirc when we had one tank hanamura defense.

I'm not one to whine about "non meta" characters but on console competitive it's obvious enough when people are being shitheads rather than being godlike symmetra mains or whatever.

 

[Anne]

In case you wanted to know about Sombra stuff, Captain Planet asked Bishop (former KD player, C9 current coach) what's going on with her for his recent meta report https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2017-...d-meta-report-the-real-sombras-of-south-korea

Many intrepid Apex viewers who stayed up late into the night to watch their favorite Korean teams duke it out may have noticed an interesting trend in the last week or so: there’s a ton of Sombra play! And not just in 2CP maps only – where she’s been pulled out from time to time due in the past – but also on hybrid, escort, and king of the hill maps as well. This is also largely a Korean phenomenon only – at the moment anyway:

Koreans are currently playing Sombra at a 5x higher rate than their NA and EU counterparts. Some of that ratio can be explained by being forced into playing 2CP maps, but not all of it. If I were to remove 2CP maps from the pool, the usage drops from 10% to 4%, still higher than NA and EU.

I must conclude that the Koreans know something we do not. To help find out what, I reached out to one of the best Korean Overwatch resources available: Bishop, the coach of Cloud 9. Bishop ties the increase in Sombra play to the increase in Dive comps in Korea, which is saying something since Korea has always been known as the Dive region. Dive comps, especially with the new Lucio, lack consistent healing and since the “divers” operate far from away from their supports tend to rely on health packs to recover from any damage they may take. This dependence on health packs usually isn’t an issue for the high mobility heroes used in Dive lineups though, since they can easily reach health packs and return to the action quickly.

But, Bishop says, Sombra denies all of this. She controls all of her team’s health packs on defense – preventing the offense from using them while also quickly charging her ultimate. Bishop also noted that D.Va and Winston are both staples of Dive comps, but also are vulnerable to Hack now that its cast time has been significantly reduced. Sombra required these changes and a meta shift to bring her into viability says Bishop; her kit was interesting but she didn’t have enough targets to realistically use her abilities on until the recent rise of Dive. He believes there’s a huge correlation between Sombra picks, and the existence of D.Va on the other team.

“THE GOAL IS TO SHUT DOWN MATRIX, AND CLEAN WITH SOLDIER VISOR”
I went on to ask Bishop about the strength of EMP, and how to best use it. EMP is arguably the fastest-charging ultimate in the game now if abused correctly, beating out even Tracer’s Pulse Bomb. I had noticed that in a match vs. Conbox Spirit (who has Twilight, one of the strongest Sombras in the game), LuxuryWatch Blue had started to hide their Lucio and save Drop the Beat! until after Twilight initiated with EMP. But, Bishop said that meant that Conbox had already won the mind-game:

”FORCING THE ENEMY TO HOLD SOUND BARRIER, BY HOLDING EMP…SIMPLY HOLDING IT CAUSES THE TEAM TO PLAY EXTREMELY HESITANTLY.”
It makes sense since the threat of EMP – which we already established charges incredibly fast – forces the enemy to hide their Lucio in a position where he’s not supporting his team. If we also consider that the new Lucio changes have reduced his aura’s range, this tactic has become doubly effective. Just like playing Earthshatter chicken, this EMP vs Sound Barrier mindgame has turned top level Overwatch into a game of Rock-Paper-Scissors.

Bishop also came down on the side of subbing out a non-Support to fit in Sombra, contrary to what many teams are currently doing by running Sombra + a single support. He values Lucio, Zenyatta, and Ana’s ultimates far too much to cut them. In fact, Bishop would prefer to cut D.Va instead, creating a single tank, triple-dps lineup. If you’re running a defensive Dive comp with a Sombra, now you have all the health packs you could ever need (and your opponent has none), and your Sombra is happy with EMP ready for nearly every fight. Turns out Bishop might know what he’s talking about…

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

I legitimately can't believe that with such a great kit Sombra is so boring to play. That gun is just so crap.

I don't really care if she becomes meta, but I'm not looking forward to it or anything.


I guess Orisa will become meta at some point too. We just need to give these new characters time.

 

[ponpo]

She's not boring to play though. The gun is boring but if the fun factor of all characters was based on their primary fire I don't think many would be fun to play.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

She's not boring to play though. The gun is boring but if the fun factor of all characters was based on their primary fire I don't think many would be fun to play.

Her job is too let everyone else kill things after she ults them.

 

[ponpo]

Her job is too let everyone else kill things after she ults them.

No PotG ult = boring :^)

That said, when I see her played in pro matches, the "loop" she has seems to be a bit boring. Hack heatlh pack, place teleport thing, cloak, hack / attack someone behind enemy lines with one magazine, teleport back, repeat. EMP when needed.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

ND I just had to kill a many legged creature on my wall and I blame you.