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Overwatch |OT9| There is no Cow Hero

Wtf has everyone done placements? I can still group with people who've done placements right

If they're above a certain rank you can't but I think that's masters and no one has gotten there yet. No one from the como stack last night finished placements so there's still lost of people to play with.
 

LiK

Member
Good advice. Lol at soldier switch. Usually if I can get the roadhog to go for a heal then its a win. He just takes so dang long to kill sometimes.

Soldier ain't a bad switch. I can consistently kill Tracers with Soldier altho that's just me.

Wtf has everyone done placements? I can still group with people who've done placements right

I have 3 games left. Hoping to finish them tonight with Batman and friends.
 
I'd say what I do to this Hog here. These are The Three Methods:


https://youtu.be/c9MkvgIfSAE

1. Solo, no pulse bomb. Keep out of his effective ranges (there's a deadzone between his M1 and M2), bait the first hook and count the seconds till its cooldown's up.

2. Pulse bomb. Wait until he huffs, load him with one solid spray and bomb him.

3. By this time the Hog is so scared of you he'll pop his ult in hopes of soloing you. Tracer + her team wrecks him easily.

4. Hog switches to Soldier to counter you. Pulse Bomb him again. Why? Because it's hilarious.
You kept pulse bomb on triangle? I switched it to L2 pretty quickly, though if you prefer to blink with L2 and not L1 I guess placing it on L1 would make sense too.
 
I've seen a lot of Tracers doing that lately because my hook is on cooldown. They usually die to a normal shot when they could easily have a chance if they were more cautious. Hog spread isn't as awful as it used to be, but they seem to forget about that.
Even so Im feeling like the chances of getting one shotted by his primary fire is alot lower than a pretty much guaranteed hook death. Its more of trying to negate the hook (which is instadeath) and risking cqb fights while trying for max damage. I can try to fight roadhog a little bit farther back, but like others are saying, you can't react to the hook you can only bait and hope for the best. The more hooks he throws out the more times you flip the coin. Is the hook hitbox still ridiculously huge like reins shield?
 

Dalek

Member
0-5

I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall.

What are the best youtube channels to teach you to be better with each character? I feel like no matter what I do the opponent is always there to immediately counter me in advance.

I also think we were sabotaged. There was a Mei player on our team who was wall-icing our exit from the spawn-next game that player was on the opposing side with the team that just beat us.
 
0-5

I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall.

What are the best youtube channels to teach you to be better with each character? I feel like no matter what I do the opponent is always there to immediately counter me in advance.

Are you looking for channels that focus on one hero or for channels that teach a number of things in Overwatch? If you can be more specific on the type of content and the heroes you want to improve with I can swing you some recommendations.
 

LiK

Member
0-5

I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall.

What are the best youtube channels to teach you to be better with each character? I feel like no matter what I do the opponent is always there to immediately counter me in advance.

Your Overwatch and Overwatch Central have hero specific ones. Good tips.
 

Dalek

Member
Are you looking for channels that focus on one hero or for channels that teach a number of things in Overwatch? If you can be more specific on the type of content and the heroes you want to improve with I can swing you some recommendations.

Maybe I should go back to basics to start from scratch. Characters I like using:
Lucio, Mercy, Bastion, D.Va

I'd like to be better with Reinhardt since he is always a pest to me-but whenever I try him everyone somehow gets through my shield and kills me immediately.
 

Ramirez

Member
Annnnd below 3K. Get a team with a Winston trying to go against a Bastion and a Pharah refusing to switch off when a Zen/McCree were handling her.
 

Chance

Member
You kept pulse bomb on triangle? I switched it to L2 pretty quickly, though if you prefer to blink with L2 and not L1 I guess placing it on L1 would make sense too.

Actually no - jump on L2, blink on L1, pulse bomb on R1, rewind on triangle.

...which led to me tossing a Zarya ult at an empty wall the other day when I meant to shield myself, but overall it works out well!
 
Did all my placement matches for my alt account that got to Masters last season. 5-5. Ended last season at around 3200+. 3134 now. Fine with that. Just need to decide on what golden weapon to get.

Will do placements for my main which ended at low Plat last season. Unless I play like crazy for all 10 matches, I'm probably looking at Gold for that account once placements are over!

Although I hate smurfing, I'm really tempted to see where the game would place me without all that baggage of me sucking the first few months of playing the game.

Rein anddddddddddddddddddddddddddd someone else? Some healer person who can bring you back to life?

Winston at least?

I don't want you to play Winston, I want to be the Winston main. :(

Soldier ain't a bad switch. I can consistently kill Tracers with Soldier altho that's just me.

When I play as Tracer, I try to stay as far away from Soldier as possible. I'd rather challenge a Hog than a 76 honestly. One wrong blink and a burst + helix rocket turns you into a splat on the pavement.
 
Your Overwatch and Overwatch Central have hero specific ones. Good tips.

I recommend Your Overwatch ONLY for basic level knowledge. That channel gets drug through the mud by Competitive Overwatch reddit for their content in regards to high level play. Overwatch Central is good though especially when they bring in pro players to talk about specific heroes.

Maybe I should go back to basics to start from scratch. Characters I like using:
Lucio, Mercy, Bastion, D.Va

I'd like to be better with Reinhardt since he is always a pest to me-but whenever I try him everyone somehow gets through my shield and kills me immediately.

I can't help you with Bastion or D.Va. but EeveeA is a good player for Mercy content and there are some good Lucio channels to find just from looking up "Lucio guide." Overwatch University on reddit has a lot of good educational content for all sorts of heroes inclung the ones you listed.
 
Any NA groups playing later on ? 2-1 currently ... Can play any tanks, soldier,reaper,+ mei .

I excel more in a group more than solo it seems as I usually overextend too much .

Been playing Zarya now and It seems she's really good most of the time .... especially closed space areas.

Trying to get to Diamond ;_;
 

LiK

Member
I recommend Your Overwatch ONLY for basic level knowledge. That channel gets drug through the mud by Competitive Overwatch reddit for their content in regards to high level play. Overwatch Central is good though especially when they bring in pro players to talk about specific heroes.

Gotta start somewhere. They've started doing more advanced guides in recent weeks. Helped me a lot so it works for me. I also like the hosts in general.
 

Chance

Member
When I play as Tracer, I try to stay as far away from Soldier as possible. I'd rather challenge a Hog than a 76 honestly. One wrong blink and a burst + helix rocket turns you into a splat on the pavement.

A Really Good Soldier, Hanzo or McCree are the worst for me. For some reason I tend to get the better of Really Good Widows (no idea why), but a Hanzo who can pick me out of the air with a headshot? Like wtf am I supposed to do against that? (Wait for someone on my team to realize the Hanzo is carrying, go Winston and dive together, that's what.)

Soldier's a really tough one when he's on point. All you can do is avoid him 'till his attention's elsewhere and burst him down before he notices you.
 

LiK

Member
A Really Good Soldier, Hanzo or McCree are the worst for me. For some reason I tend to get the better of Really Good Widows (no idea why), but a Hanzo who can pick me out of the air with a headshot? Like wtf am I supposed to do against that? (Wait for someone on my team to realize the Hanzo is carrying, go Winston and dive together, that's what.)

Soldier's a really tough one when he's on point. All you can do is avoid him 'till his attention's elsewhere and burst him down before he notices you.

As a Soldier player my tip is just go up in my face and I will have trouble aiming at you. We're not like Hogs that can have some accidental one shots up close unless you happened to get a helix rocket to the face.
 
Placements don't matter, I don't understand why everyone here is giving them any weight. You're going to place within 100-200 SR of what you ended the previous season. If anything, knowing when to stop before the season is over is better for you than what you actually place. It doesn't matter if you go 0-10, placements are usually a shit show anyway, just get them out the way.

I ended the season @ 2900's (PC), and did my placements last night and placed @ 2700's. Not a huge deal, if I really belong in diamond I'll make it there pretty quickly.
 
Gotta start somewhere. They've started doing more advanced guides in recent weeks. Helped me a lot so it works for me. I also like the hosts in general.

Those are probably their best videos but I still recommend channels like Skyline way more.

As a Soldier player my tip is just go up in my face and I will have trouble aiming at you. We're not like Hogs that can have some accidental one shots up close unless you happened to get a helix rocket to the face.

This is correct but I'll add an asterisk here and say that it is best to push when his abilities are on cooldown. A Soldier without his helix lacks a lot of burst and without his healing station can't sustain in any fight.
 
Placements don't matter, I don't understand why everyone here is giving them any weight. You're going to place within 100-200 SR of what you ended the previous season. If anything, knowing when to stop before the season is over is better for you than what you actually place. It doesn't matter if you go 0-10, placements are usually a shit show anyway, just get them out the way.

I ended the season @ 2900's (PC), and did my placements last night and placed @ 2700's. Not a huge deal, if I really belong in diamond I'll make it there pretty quickly.

Two seasons ago I ended at 1850. I went 5-5 in my placements. It put me down at 1400. :(
 

Trickster

Member
Went 3-7 and mostly played on pretty unfamiliar dps heroes. Somehow got placed at 3044. Not sure how really. Yeah I finished at 3366 last season. But I played pretty fucking shit in my placement matches
 

Chance

Member
As a Soldier player my tip is just go up in my face and I will have trouble aiming at you. We're not like Hogs that can have some accidental one shots up close unless you happened to get a helix rocket to the face.

Will try ^.^
 

LiK

Member
This is correct but I'll add an asterisk here and say that it is best to push when his abilities are on cooldown. A Soldier without his helix lacks a lot of burst and without his healing station can't sustain in any fight.

Yea, sometimes I try to keep my rockets in check if a Tracer is harrassing me or one of our supports.
 

Ramirez

Member
Placements don't matter, I don't understand why everyone here is giving them any weight. You're going to place within 100-200 SR of what you ended the previous season. If anything, knowing when to stop before the season is over is better for you than what you actually place. It doesn't matter if you go 0-10, placements are usually a shit show anyway, just get them out the way.

I ended the season @ 2900's (PC), and did my placements last night and placed @ 2700's. Not a huge deal, if I really belong in diamond I'll make it there pretty quickly.

Then get rid of them.
 
Placements don't matter, I don't understand why everyone here is giving them any weight. You're going to place within 100-200 SR of what you ended the previous season. If anything, knowing when to stop before the season is over is better for you than what you actually place. It doesn't matter if you go 0-10, placements are usually a shit show anyway, just get them out the way.

I ended the season @ 2900's (PC), and did my placements last night and placed @ 2700's. Not a huge deal, if I really belong in diamond I'll make it there pretty quickly.

Idk I ended the last season 2100 sr. just went 1-9 in placements and I'm at 1269 sr...
 

Chance

Member
This is correct but I'll add an asterisk here and say that it is best to push when his abilities are on cooldown. A Soldier without his helix lacks a lot of burst and without his healing station can't sustain in any fight.

Worth noting: Tracer can easily burst through Healing Station, Lucio's normal heal aura, Zen's Harmony and even Mercy's beam if you're on point with headshots.

Once I see that Helix go off it's like a McCree who just used his Flashbang: lunch.
 

komaruR

Member
Two seasons ago I ended at 1850. I went 5-5 in my placements. It put me down at 1400. :(
Youre pc and on discord. Be active and ask question. Usually the best is to show us some vod and we critique it and give you pointers for improvement.
Theres vast resources that can help you but you gotta be active to achieve it.
 
Worth noting: Tracer can easily burst through Healing Station, Lucio's normal heal aura, Zen's Harmony and even Mercy's beam if you're on point with headshots.

Once I see that Helix go off it's like a McCree who just used his Flashbang: lunch.

"Easily" depending on your aim and the Soldier's ability to dodge.

Soldier is consistently the character I have the most trouble with on Tracer and I play at high masters.
 
Oh my god lack of team communication in Comp is fucking infuriating.

Had a match on King's Row where we got stuck with what I can only describe as a try-hard Genji for 90% of the game, and he proved really ineffective and when we asked him to change for like the 5th time - to counter their Genji + squishies - he went Junkrat and then sulked in spawn.

3 W/ 3L so far. I feel a big SR loss coming.
 
Maybe they have some algorithim going but 10 matches is a lot. I wish Placements was only 5 matches.

10 for new players, 5 for people who have already completed a competitive season. Seems fair, especially since by all indications how you do during placements doesn't matter. It's just a dead zone where you can get a win streak but not have it apply to your SR gains.

Yup, placements should only exist for new players imo.

There doesn't even seem to be a reason for seasons at this point, aside from arbitrarily deciding when to award points for golden guns.

Idk I ended the last season 2100 sr. just went 1-9 in placements and I'm at 1269 sr...

Ouch.

I got nothing. That sucks. :(
 

Chance

Member
"Easily" depending on your aim and the Soldier's ability to dodge.

Soldier is consistently the character I have the most trouble with on Tracer and I play at high masters.

Well not "easily" as in "it's super easy to land a perfect clip of headshots against an evasive opponent," more "easily" as in "she can output more DPS than these options can recover."
 
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