Acerac
Banned
All Blizz games should be F2P. Hearthstone is F2P and Diablo 3/WoW paid me to play them.
Blizzard plz.
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Overwatch - Review Thread
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All Blizz games should be F2P. Hearthstone is F2P and Diablo 3/WoW paid me to play them.
Blizzard plz.
GitarooMan
Member
What's so crazy about that. It definitely has created a ton of discussion/buzz and captured the zeitgeist. And it says 'potential'
Can somebody PLEASE explain this to me, i dont get it:
Why is this game getting so much good reviews?
I played the last beta for a couple of hours and found it really mediocre (for multiple reasons i will not get into detail to prevent getting roasted).
I don't see what this game does have to make it so exceptional good.
After the beta i thought "okay, i have seen all of the game now, why should i buy it?" .
For me it just looks so much like a standard mp shooter without much variation on unlockables that matter and many weapons.
This is no post to bash/flame the game, im really interested in getting the clue of this game, because until now i feel like the only guy in the room who doesnt know why this game is so much praised and good.
Maybe im getting old
It is totally okay to not like a game that a lot of people love, and it doesn't mean that you're "missing something" or "wrong" or anything like that. Not every game is for everyone, and that's fine! I think you're getting a little too worked up about this. For example, I wasn't super blown away by Uncharted 4 in the way a lot of people were/are.
But to answer your question, I think what makes Overwatch stand out is how polished it feels. The art style is incredibly cohesive, all of the characters feel fleshed out both in terms of mechanics and personality, it manages to feel relatively balanced with 21 different characters, etc. It's not doing anything particularly new but it does what it sets out to do with a level of confidence and refinement that really makes it stand out from other recent MP shooters, imo.
Yep, I'm pretty sure they won't add weapon variations to Overwatch, at least for now. They tried skill variations as part of a progression system back in beta, but they backed off from it because of the knowledge load it puts on players. Now you don't only need to know what Reaper does, but also what all of his weird side grades do too. Multiplied by every character in the game because players can switch at any time.
However without the additions I am hard pressed to say TF2 characters are that much more complex. They all have a unique primary, a (mostly) goofy melee weapon, and then a bunch of them share side arms. The new weapons definitely blow this wide open, but if we're talking about what they started with, it wasn't anything too crazy. Absolutely not a bad thing and I think the clean load outs are what made the game so easy to get into in the beginning. If we're comparing to Overwatch, if you include the special abilities and especially ultimates (of which only the medic's overcharge really compares) I'd say they match most classes in TF2. Only the Engie sticks out to me as a guy that can do quite a bit more than anyone in Overwatch with his standard load-out.
If we're talking post-first-wave-of-new-weapons then TF2 added some nice variations that open up new playstyles for sure. remote sentry, mini sentry, huntsman, Kritskreige, instant disguise on kill, etc etc etc.
As for where they go with Overwatch in the future I'm not sure. I could see them potentially going back to revisit their "load outs" philosophy in the future to get some variety in there, but if they are big load out changes I think they'd rather add another class instead of tinker with an existing one.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Just updated the OP with all of these:
Forbes - 10/10
GamingBolt - 9/10
GameSpot - 9/10
Brash Games - 8/10
M3 - 8/10
Digital Spy - Review in Progress
Forbes - 10/10
GamingBolt - 9/10
GameSpot - 9/10
Brash Games - 8/10
M3 - 8/10
Digital Spy - Review in Progress
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
so what would make it a 10 out of 10?
if it is? but we would never know that until the generation is over. so should it get re-reviewed at the end?
just saying, that kind of glowing sentence, you'd think it would be a 10/10 period.
and it's doubtlessly THE game of the summer according to them. So, i guess a 10/10 can never be achieved?
just thought it was funny seeing "9/10" after that. but I frankly dont care how well this game reviews.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
And that's fine. It just means the game isn't for you. I tire of grinding to unlock stuff and would rather just play for fun. Especially with MP games since having to unlock characters, weapons, upgrades etc. just makes it an unbalanced mess and leaves those of us with less time to play always behind the people who play a ton. So the other players aren't only more skilled/experienced, but also have better gear and characters. That's not fun to me. But there's a huge market for those games, so I'm glad they're out there. Just like I'm glad their are games like Overwatch that are more focused on balance and just playing for fun.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It's not new. The same thing was said about Splatoon. I look at it as a wishful thinking statements.
As others have pointed out, the areas where this game really stands out is the polish. There's 21 different characters and they are all equally fun to play.
This game has actually made playing a healer character fun, and not only that, but it recognizes you for healing/supporting the team and not just who has the most kills. Just yesterday I saw a person playing Mercy (healer) get the play of the game as well as the most votes for mvp.
This game has actually made playing a healer character fun, and not only that, but it recognizes you for healing/supporting the team and not just who has the most kills. Just yesterday I saw a person playing Mercy (healer) get the play of the game as well as the most votes for mvp.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, that's all why it's so great, especially the bolded. All the characters have their uses, are fun to play and fairly easy to pick up and understand what to do.
For comparison, I also really like Battleborn, but only 3 of the characters have clicked with me their and it's much harder to play/learn very different classes than what you play most.
It is the most fun I've had in a long time as far as multilayer games goes
What are games if not to have fun?
I think that's valid enough
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Of course? I mean we have tons and tons of games that only play MP games these days, and many more that primarily play MP. The Esports scene has exploded. Games like WoW becoming a lifestyle for many. Gaming online with friends is a huge way many keep in touch and chat with out of town friends etc. etc.
I love single player games, but think it's silly to view MP only games as lesser in quality, impact on the field etc. But I'm not really one of those games as art people, so maybe that's where we differ. I'm a games as fun person, and prefer to fill my art needs with other types of media.
GitarooMan
Member
I see what your saying, but finding logic in review scores is a fool's errand most likely. Although to be fair a game could certainly be important and influential without being 10/10.
GitarooMan
Member
This is like saying no movie should get 4 stars.
Tried all of 'em, and while they're definitely interesting, I didn't have fun playing with them. As long as I'm contributing, I think it's fine to just stick with one character.
If you're only playing to win, sure, you should probably be switching characters. Some people just like to have fun though, they shouldn't have to go play a different game just because they want to use the character they like.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I think this will work itself out once the competitive playlist is out. The people who care a ton about winning will be over their, and the people that just want to goof around will be in quick play.
Dreams-Visions
Member
No, it's pretty crazy. Overwatch is not going to create a surge of team fortress-style games. In fact, I don't see any reason to believe we'll see another game of this type this generation at all. But you can bet your ass we'll see plenty of standard military shooters.
Perhaps some future FPS games may continue to evolve the idea of "ultimate" abilities which themselves are a simplified version of a killstreak reward or a Medic's Ubercharge from Team Fortress 2. But lol @ this game defining or influencing a generation of shooters.
The closest game that has come to that description is Titanfall. For all its flaws, it has made free roaming traversal and boost pack-based agility gameplay a thing across an array of titles since it launched. CoD, Halo, Battlefront, Overwatch, and to a lesser extent Destiny were all heavily influenced by what the Titanfall team was doing. Whether Overwatch will have any impact beyond itself and its own sales figures remains to be seen. Look at how successful TF2 has been for Valve. Yet it took 9 years (nine!) for another company to make a good game in the same vein as it.
Oh, so it's you that picks McCree when we already have two.
Nah. I'll probably be playing Soldier 76 when there's already 2 though
You'll get rekt and you'll have no idea by what. Most likely a stationary minigun hero.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Nah. I'll probably be playing Soldier 76 when there's already 2 though
You're the worst.
Interfectum
Member
Most people know this which is why 10/10 and 4 stars doesn't mean "perfect."
Interfectum
Member
A big part of this game is to cater to people who normally don't play shooters. Lots of ways to support the team instead of worrying about raking up kills. If anything you should rent it and see for yourself.
What if the other two Soldiers are just repeatedly rushing the other team while I actually play the objective?
Interfectum
Member
10/10 means this is the "best" the genre/game/series/whatever has to offer at this point in time or that it's some hallmark achievement. It doesn't mean the game is absolutely flawless and never be topped.
This isn't math here, just someone putting a number on an opinion.
What if what if what if...?
You could create all manner of hypothetical situations but having three of the same character wouldn't be the best answer in most cases.
Honestly, just look at videos and streams. If you are interested in FPS MP games then this is indeed a good FPS MP game.
The logic center of your brain is out of wack.
The Elite
BOSS
I like this game but I'm not even sure I consider it the best multiplayer shooter out there right now. I would still take Rainbow Six: Siege or Halo 5 over it any day. Then again I was never big on TF2.
I feel like I was invited to the party and sort of danced to the music but wasn't really feeling it while everyone else thought it was the best party ever. - boxquote
I feel like I was invited to the party and sort of danced to the music but wasn't really feeling it while everyone else thought it was the best party ever. - boxquote
Eh, it's not my or any other person's responsibility to play characters they don't want to play. I'd rather have fun doing what I like than win playing as a character I don't enjoy.
YES! Exactly! It's so refreshing.
Good for you, you're still the worst.
Guess I'll just have to be the worst, then. Don't how I'll live with such shame, but I'll find a way.
GitarooMan
Member
It's accessible in the sense that you don't have to have super twitchy MLG reflexes and aiming to be competent. If you can think a bit about positioning and strategy and how to counter things, the actual execution part of the game is not super complicated. You won't get "rekt" most of the time if you play with some thought.
Of course, there will always be those games against a Reinhardt, three Tjorbjorns and a Mercy that make you pull your hair out.
The Elite
BOSS
Yeah, I think this has been an issue for me as well. There is an expectation that I feel a hole in a group as needed when I just want to play D.Va or Bastion no matter what. At least I kind of like how Mercy plays so I can do support. Still, if I'm in a D.Va mode I am going to roll D.Va.
Hopefully you'll see the light and realise there's more to this game than shooting and getting kills.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
You don't have to be super twitchy but it helps a lot. Otherwise you can play a medic and still be useful.
It's not a big deal. I can rate my breakfast this morning out of 10.
When you visit the doctor and they ask you your pain level, do you say "scores are stupid"?
RustyNails
Member
So, um for someone who lived under a rock for the past year, what's this game about? Is it team based like Left 4 Dead?
It's team based like TF2. The core gameplay is 6v6 competitive play, though there is a Vs Bots mode if you want to play against the AI.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
6v6 asymmetrical squad based objective combat where each hero has a unique playstyle and powers to supplement it.
Cup of coffee and a bowl of Capn Crunch, 5/10.
Yeah, it's called playing the objective and healing myself/others when needed. The kills are just sugar on top
Nothing wrong with that at all, doing you is more important than appeasing randoms.
What if you told the doctor 6/10 and then a crowd of people showed up to tell you why you're in someone else's pocket, threatened to kill you, and constantly hounded you about why they think your pain should actually be an 4/10 and you aren't smart enough to rate things yourself? You might decide it's not worth it.
The Elite
BOSS
As someone who just had surgery this week, yes, I said that to their face.
Well, no, in that case a score is not stupid. As it's an immediate response to help understand/remedy an ailment.
But then again, I don't think there is a reason to write a 1000 word explanation as to why I would consider my pain an 8/10 either. A description of the pain would be appropriate, but that wouldn't be done as a justification of the score of said pain.