Person of Interest |S2 OT| Not For The Weak-Kneed
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I assume Root told him to or she'd kill Grace.
probably the last segment of the night coming up. I have to figure it ends with either the phone call, the person behind Greer, or what happens after Finch follows Nathan in 2010 (really hoping to see what kind of accident happens to Finch, but that might be next week)
figures GAF would go down at the same time the Machine did.
Can't quite process what happened. At first, I thought he sent the phone call down to John and Root was screwed. But she talked to someone(or "it"), so, I'm thinking what Finch did, was "double the call" and there are 2 admins, Root and Reese.
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Can't quite process what happened. At first, I thought he sent the phone call down to John and Root was screwed. But she talked to someone(or "it"), so, I'm thinking what Finch did, was "double the call" and there are 2 admins, Root and Reese.
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at least it wasn't leading up to some terrorist plot that The Machine couldn't see. At least not yet.
Instead, it's leading to someone having full access to everything. Not just working with numbers, but everything. The machine would literally tell you that so and so is planning to kill so and so for such and such reason. It'd also would probably have the ability to know everything about everyone. Hence, God Mode.
So, that's probably much worse than a single terrorist attack.
Instead, it's leading to someone having full access to everything. Not just working with numbers, but everything. The machine would literally tell you that so and so is planning to kill so and so for such and such reason. It'd also would probably have the ability to know everything about everyone. Hence, God Mode.
So, that's probably much worse than a single terrorist attack.
Jay Shadow
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I would say there was a lot of WTF in this episode, but not nearly as much WTF as learning Variety reported a few days ago that Person of Interest was getting a Jonathan Nolan produced Anime web spinoff.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I didn't know this, but I am now Nolan's whore, so I'll take whatever PoI goodness I can get.
As for tonight's episode, I'll have to catch it tomorrow. Lucky I've learned to selectively scan and read this thread without getting spoiled.
The Dutch Slayer
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Razgriz-Specter
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Man this was the only time I didn't watch live(Iron Man 3)
Fuuuuuuuu
what an amazing episode.
Fuuuuuuuu
what an amazing episode.
I remember Harold, multiple times over the 2 seasons, talk about "There are.....precautions" whenever he talks about things he set up in the machine, to keep it from, I guess, becoming too powerful. He always had that pause before precautions. Now, I guess, we know what it was.
Still don't know the angle of the ordos laptop, as well as "who created this endgame/God Mode" reboot function. With how absolute Finch was on "no back doors, no way to get at it", as well as not creating the irrelevant contingency portion, I don't know that he would want it unlocked.
Decima seems to know alot about the deep function of The Machine...
Also, the Podcast of Interest is up for the new episode
Lord_Byron28
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I wonder if it started to all go over peoples heads in the first half. It was a pretty plot heavy episode and I could see a lit of it going over people's heads. It for me didn't start to payoff until the 2nd half.
yeah, it's getting cable TV levels of depth now. I could see tons of slight callbacks to events in previous episodes.
Young Harold and "Sedition and Mayhem" Sounds like that story Finch told the kid genius, about a kid hacking into ARPANET during the Cold war, with only a home computer.
The Laptop and China
Nathan and creating the Irrelevant List
Harold refusing to call Root "Root" (even after she asks him to call her Root, he still says Ms. Groves)
The Bomb Vest
Corwin's RFID chip
I also wonder if that Sibilance thing she and that CIA guy went on about, if Sibilance (the unaccounted for NSA data) could potentially have been the Thornhill operation. That identity wasn't just created overnight. It's been having people re-input this data, from hardcopies (which doesn't have programming built in to erase it at midnight, because it's paper!), for months.
Also, there is a sizeable crowd that just doesn't like Shaw. Most come off like Women not liking Women characters, or at least ones that could messed up previous "shipper's Ships." Now, I'm not 100% on board on her too, but not to their levels. She's beautiful, and has her own Batman abilities (appears and disappears out of nowhere), but her reasoning's aren't very clear, and she hasn't "chosen" a side. Just seems to want to kill Root. They need to start working on this aspect of her soon.
Young Harold and "Sedition and Mayhem" Sounds like that story Finch told the kid genius, about a kid hacking into ARPANET during the Cold war, with only a home computer.
The Laptop and China
Nathan and creating the Irrelevant List
Harold refusing to call Root "Root" (even after she asks him to call her Root, he still says Ms. Groves)
The Bomb Vest
Corwin's RFID chip
I also wonder if that Sibilance thing she and that CIA guy went on about, if Sibilance (the unaccounted for NSA data) could potentially have been the Thornhill operation. That identity wasn't just created overnight. It's been having people re-input this data, from hardcopies (which doesn't have programming built in to erase it at midnight, because it's paper!), for months.
Also, there is a sizeable crowd that just doesn't like Shaw. Most come off like Women not liking Women characters, or at least ones that could messed up previous "shipper's Ships." Now, I'm not 100% on board on her too, but not to their levels. She's beautiful, and has her own Batman abilities (appears and disappears out of nowhere), but her reasoning's aren't very clear, and she hasn't "chosen" a side. Just seems to want to kill Root. They need to start working on this aspect of her soon.
Honestly they could keep the procedural part going for a while but it is finale time so I can see why the last 2-3 episodes would be plot heavy. I'm sure during the middle stretch during S3 will be procedural as usual.
The only thing is that they probably can't keep it going forever like CSI.
Much rather that, than what it was about to look like. Have to figure Fusco comes back and is involved in the Carter/HR plot. Wonder if it'll wrap up next week or not.
What if the reason Nathan's name came up while Harold was shutting down the machine was because Harold decided at that point to kill him and was hiding the evidence?
(I realise there's a huge hole in this theory - The Machine isn't a psychic, it predicts these things based on overheard conversations, etc., and so it couldn't read Harold's mind at that point. Still, I liked the thought enough that I posted this even knowing it was wrong
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(I realise there's a huge hole in this theory - The Machine isn't a psychic, it predicts these things based on overheard conversations, etc., and so it couldn't read Harold's mind at that point. Still, I liked the thought enough that I posted this even knowing it was wrong
)What if the reason Nathan's name came up while Harold was shutting down the machine was because Harold decided at that point to kill him and was hiding the evidence?
(I realise there's a huge hole in this theory - The Machine isn't a psychic, it predicts these things based on overheard conversations, etc., and so it couldn't read Harold's mind at that point. Still, I liked the thought enough that I posted this even knowing it was wrong
One thing against it, is that Harold didn't have the Red Box on him, he still had the Yellow Box. I think it had picked up the thread before that meeting between the 2 of them.
Just now listening to it and I love their intro, haha.
Thinking about this further, I feel differently about Finch now. I see the Machine as a character and because of what Finch has done, I feel, like Root, that he crippled the machine or hurt the machine. This is a weird feeling.
Razgriz-Specter
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Man Fn CBS,
stop messing with the schedule you idiots.
stop messing with the schedule you idiots.
Yeah, they carried on with the same machine problems, even during the podcast (occasional stutterings). I thought the show was a tad short (usually close to 1 hour long, this one was 37 minutes), but come to realize, they had "the machine" cut off on them mid sentence, and end of podcast :lol
I can see that Finch's plan of deleting it every night as kind of a cruel thing to do to a sentient being, but I also understand why it might be for the best.
Something with as much technological power and control that this thing could have, in the hands of a human being with their own morals and ethics, would be a scary thing for everyone else. But to let the actual machine, that has become sentient and has a personality that can't be easily controlled, stopped or killed...
For some reason, I have a bit more of a panic feeling from that thought, than anything Skynet and Terminator gave me.
Just like these little time details. Zero Day takes place almost on the realtime day, and the knowledge that the Machine started buying payphones "5 1/2 months" ago, puts it right at the point that Kara installed the virus (164 days, with the general "30 days in a month" is 5.45 months).
Now, that episode aired in mid January, but in POI time was mid November (those 4 episodes where Reese is in prison, all take place over a couple of days, screwing the dates up some)
bodyboarder
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I'm more interested in what the phone call Root took was about.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Can you hear me?
Hooooooooooly shit. That was amazing. I didn't quite see that coming. Man, they are really able to make Caviezel picking up a pay phone super-dramatic and not look cheesy. That was so good.
Root is so delightfully looney. So, are both John and Root admins? Or is Harold leading Root on a wild goose chase while Reese defends the Machine from Decima? Leaving Fusco (where the hell was he?) to aid Carter in her frame-up job by HR?
Shaw was sexy as fuck breaking John out. Nathan was pretty baller in that last scene with Harold. Proto-Reese indeed. "Saved 5 people. Lost 7." Dude's a fucking hero. Drinks, pops pills, runs around with a snubnose revolver, and has a broken hand and still wants to rescue people.
Man, poor Harold. No wonder he's so obsessed with saving people. It's basically his fault that Nathan is dead. Had he not shut down access, they would have received the warning.
But seriously, Harold's been a naughty boy. Creating the virus to cripple the Machine (all of this, again, is his fault, right?) and shutting access. No wonder he's got such a hero complex. But why create a virus that could cripple the Machine like that? Unless it was someone else and it's a frame job or it's not what it seems.
John Nolan played smarmy evil well in that showdown with Reese.
Such a Batman thing to do.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN IT, CBS.
edit: io9 recap is up if anyone's interested:
On Person of Interest, we confront the tragedy of AI life
Hooooooooooly shit. That was amazing. I didn't quite see that coming. Man, they are really able to make Caviezel picking up a pay phone super-dramatic and not look cheesy. That was so good.
Root is so delightfully looney. So, are both John and Root admins? Or is Harold leading Root on a wild goose chase while Reese defends the Machine from Decima? Leaving Fusco (where the hell was he?) to aid Carter in her frame-up job by HR?
Shaw was sexy as fuck breaking John out. Nathan was pretty baller in that last scene with Harold. Proto-Reese indeed. "Saved 5 people. Lost 7." Dude's a fucking hero. Drinks, pops pills, runs around with a snubnose revolver, and has a broken hand and still wants to rescue people.
Man, poor Harold. No wonder he's so obsessed with saving people. It's basically his fault that Nathan is dead. Had he not shut down access, they would have received the warning.
But seriously, Harold's been a naughty boy. Creating the virus to cripple the Machine (all of this, again, is his fault, right?) and shutting access. No wonder he's got such a hero complex. But why create a virus that could cripple the Machine like that? Unless it was someone else and it's a frame job or it's not what it seems.
John Nolan played smarmy evil well in that showdown with Reese.
Also..lol at John's "When I care about someone I put tracking device on him"
Such a Batman thing to do.
last night's ratings out. CBS is kind of tanking. POI matched last week, which was a season low. Does Grey's have any depth to it? Isn't it just a hospital show with all of it's doctors fucking each other?!?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN IT, CBS.
edit: io9 recap is up if anyone's interested:
On Person of Interest, we confront the tragedy of AI life
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