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[Opa-Pa]

No it's not lol wtf. I can see a game working better there but that's not a valid criticism towards a game.

If you're acknowledging that there's a distinction between design philosophies and that it could work better in a different platform then it absolutely counts as valid criticism.

How tiring the game's systems can be in the platform it plays can turn off potential buyers so it's definitely something worth putting in a review meant to advice consumers lol.

 

[Holundrian]

The one thing I hope JP devs take away from Persona is how to improve turn based.
P5 does a lot to make that experience way better things that I honestly think are insane to no have been done before given it was 2016 when it came out in JP. Design had a whole movement around "the user experience" already years before that.

That said I also hope they don't only copy but push further. I still believe turn based is a system with a lot more places to explore and refine especially balance wise.

I take solace that at least one dev that chases trends to a fault will at least probably take good lessons from this game.

 

[wig]

Amazing reviews. I'm so hyped!

 

[Servbot24]

Should we read into the fact that the highest rated PS4 titles are PS3 remasters?

I mean Uncharted 4 and Forza Horizon 3 are the
highest rated original titles of the generation. And they only got there by being the exemplars of their genres.

P5 is not a remaster if that's what you're trying to say

 

[4Tran]

isnt it more or less atlus pouring in all their resources?

It doesn't matter; Persona 5 still doesn't have the kind of budget to call it AAA.

also id prefer a good game with good scores rather than an AAA game that sucks balls

I agree, and I barely play AAA games myself.

 

[The Artisan]

any NYC gaffers out there have the standard edition preordered and wanna trade for the steelbook cover?

 

[Lusankya]

Damn, 91 from 4players.de.
Imho they're the most critical German gaming website so this score from them is huge.

 

[Filthy Casual]

Hmm, might have to check out this Persona malarkey.

 

[freeofgreed]

Goddamn, these reviews are even better then I thought.

Can't wait....

 

[brian!]

W/r/t the jimquisition review, the reviewer says that she enjoyed experiencing p4g on portable and believes the format of the game suits hardware like that better. Like that is completely valid, i dont really see the issue here.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Glad it's doing well, was kind of worried something crazy would happen. Especially shocked that ign showed it that much love.

 

[diablos991]

Man. I didn't want to buy this game because of the styling. But hearing these reviews is making me reconsider.

I don't want to drop 100 hours though.
What time investment for the main story if I'm not a completionist?

 

[SporeCrawler]

It doesn't matter; Persona 5 still doesn't have the kind of budget to call it AAA.

do you have the R&D costs for this game? are those published? if not how do you know? tales out of ...?

 

[ToysAndMoreClub]

Criticizing the precense of handheld game design in a home console game is absolutely valid lol, come on people, not every review has to be a perfect 10.



But you can beat Zelda in 20, hell, even 10 hours if you so wish. You're actually required to play at least around 90 hours to finish the main storyline in this.

I mean, technically, you can beat it in less than an hour. But this is impressive for P5 and for JRPGs with 100+ hours as a whole. Bring on Xenoblade II !!! Japan is on FIRE!

 

[robotrock]

Man. I didn't want to buy this game because of the styling. But hearing these reviews is making me reconsider.

I don't want to drop 100 hours though.
What time investment for the main story if I'm not a completionist?

Probably 80-100 hours. Looks like it's not for you

 

[GeoramA]

Those scores, wow. What a year it's been.

 

[DNAbro]

Man. I didn't want to buy this game because of the styling. But hearing these reviews is making me reconsider.

I don't want to drop 100 hours though.
What time investment for the main story if I'm not a completionist?

100 hours

 

[Maxinas]

If persona doesnt sell remarkably well, its going to give them the opposite impression.
rushed 81 mc game sells 6m and possibly more
fantastic 94 mc game drags it feet to 2mn?

we need to keep in mind p5 wont have the advantage of being the lone good game on a console like it was with golden

Bloodborne got 92 and the assumption is it sold around 3million so far. Xenoblade Chronicles got a 92 and sold a little over a million on the Wii. Unfortunately, no matter how large the userbase, or how high the critic score, some games are still too "niche" for the larger userbase which consists of dudebros who only play sports games or shooters.

Spoiler

Or Pokemon.

 

[Nikolasvanitas]

The one thing I hope JP devs take away from Persona is how to improve turn based.
P5 does a lot to make that experience way better things that I honestly think are insane to no have been done before given it was 2016 when it came out in JP. Design had a whole movement around "the user experience" already years before that.

That said I also hope they don't only copy but push further. I still believe turn based is a system with a lot more places to explore and refine especially balance wise.

I take solace that at least one dev that chases trends to a fault will at least probably take good lessons from this game.

My thoughts exactly

 

[Vital Tundra]

Japan better not get snubbed at any game awards this year. Zelda will when GotY, but from music to action to RPG Japan killed it.

 

[StereoVsn]

Oh I would be more than fine with the PS3 version, but I am not sure if I be active enough to get out my PS3 that I felt I was pretty much mostly done with and try to get through this long (turn based) RPG on the TV. I know that might sound weird, but I pretty much moved towards PC/portable (including playing WiiU exclusively on gamepad), so eh.

You don't wish to play potentially one of the best RPGs of last 10 years because you couldn't be arsed to hook up a PS3 you already own to a TV. Yeah....

 

[PshycoNinja]

People should be free to provide criticism of whatever games they want, citing other games as examples if needed, in a constructive and civil manner. Circle jerk threads of never-ending positivity are just as bad as negative cynical echo chambers.

I agree and feel like what I said may have been lost in translation. Or was just a poor response.

Nevertheless, I am happy for Persona 5 and the great scores it is receiving. I have been excited for it since the day it was announced.

I think what I was mostly trying to get at is people comparing the metascores. I think that's boring and exhausting to see, personally. I don't mind comparisons and constructive criticism.

 

[D23]

so many good games coming out lately...

 

[BRSxIgnition]

The Sixth Axis Review added to OP. (And Unweighted Average Calculator)

 

[Ascenion]

P5 is not a remaster if that's what you're trying to say

It's not. P5 is cross gen, I get that. I'm just saying I can't believe PS4 and Xbox One 4 years in don't have a 95+ title between the two of them that was made specifically with them in mind.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Man, what a year.

Can't decide between this and Nier at the moment.

 

[Memento]

W/r/t the jimquisition review, the reviewer says that she enjoyed experiencing p4g on portable and believes the format of the game suits hardware like that better. Like that is completely valid, i dont really see the issue here.

Because she says it is her only major complaint.

It is like reviewing a PSVita game and saying "yeah it is good and all but if it was on PS4 it would be much better". Like, WTF? Port begging on reviews now?

 

[victreeb3l]

I cannot wait for this.

 

[rrc1594]

so many good games coming out lately...

Now so many nights eating ramen soup

 

[Poor GRIMES]

well persona 4 golden spoiled a lot of people (me included)

Me too and of course I'd love to be able to play this on my Vita like I did P4G.

But it just some seems weird to go, "Everything about this game is nearly perfect...except for the systems it's on. 8.5."

 

[klabautermann]

Man, what a year.

Can't decide between this and Nier at the moment.

I'm inclined to say Persona, because it's my favorite series ever. But the original NIER holds a very special place in my heart in my top 10 favorite games and I just started Automata and I must say it is FANTASTIC. Depends what you're feeling; Weighty themed turn-based JRPG or philosophical Action JRPG. I hope which ever you go with, you get around to both of them in the end, because they are both phenomenal.

 

[ToysAndMoreClub]

Because she says it is her only major complaint.

It is like reviewing a PSVita game and saying "yeah it is good and all but if it was on PS4 it would be much better". Like, WTF? Port begging on reviews now?

She said the beginning of the game is slow and tedious, and if it would have been on portable it would have been more bearable.

 

[Night Angel]

100 hours?

I couldn't get past 40 in Zelda... not sure if I should get this lol. I loved P4G, but that's absurdly long.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Now so many nights eating ramen soup

Don't try the Maruchan Chili flavored one, for fuck sake! I beg of you!

 

[Jawbreaker]

Because she says it is her only major complaint.

It is like reviewing a PSVita game and saying "yeah it is good and all but if it was on PS4 it would be much better". Like, WTF? Port begging on reviews now?

Yeah, if you start going down this route, you can technically dock any game that lacks a PC version for not allowing you a wide breadth of customization options.

She said the beginning of the game is slow and tedious, and if it would have been on portable it would have been more bearable.

Wouldn't suspend/resume alleviate that? It's essentially like clamping your 3DS.

 

[SaiyanRaoh]

Over half of these are not even exclusive. What is the point of posting this image other than to masturbate over quality games next to a PS4 logo?

That they also don't have an Xbox logo next to it.

 

[klabautermann]

100 hours?

I couldn't get past 40 in Zelda... not sure if I should get this lol. I loved P4G, but that's absurdly long.

Curious to how long it took you to finish P4G? It took me over 90 hours, so I already planned on sinking more into this game. Though I did have a friend who beat it in 50 which was very surprising to me.

 

[AuthenticM]

This game looks fucking lit.

 

[Eklesp]

CAN'T

WAIT

But. You have to.

 

[Fat4all]

y'all need to calm down on the JQ review

 

[robotrock]

100 hours?

I couldn't get past 40 in Zelda... not sure if I should get this lol. I loved P4G, but that's absurdly long.

P4G took me about 90 hours true ending and all.

I get why you'd drop Zelda after 40 hours since it's super gameplay focused, but I have always felt like Persona has had a satisfying amount of story to always keep me motivated to play throughout those hours.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

She said the beginning of the game is slow and tedious, and if it would have been on portable it would have been more bearable.

Uh ok? That doesn't make it any better. P4 was on the PS2, lol. P4G is a remaster port.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

I guess I can see Laura's point, as my only complaint about P4Golden was having to play it on a handheld. Long games on handhelds fucking suck, but I keep playing them anyway. I REALLY wish the PSTV was out by the time Golden released.

god I hate handhelds

 

[BluePikmin11]

100 hours?

I couldn't get past 40 in Zelda... not sure if I should get this lol. I loved P4G, but that's absurdly long.

The more time I get to hang out with these characters in P5, the better.

I think of the P4 characters as my best friends now after finishing the game. Now I legitimately think Chie, Yukiko, and Yosuke were part of my real-life high school experience.

 

[diablos991]

100 hours?

I couldn't get past 40 in Zelda... not sure if I should get this lol. I loved P4G, but that's absurdly long.

I don't understand how a game that takes 100 hours to mainline isn't getting docked on the review because of the length.

40 seems to be the jrpg sweet spot for me.

 

[Impulsor]

Because she says it is her only major complaint.

It is like reviewing a PSVita game and saying "yeah it is good and all but if it was on PS4 it would be much better". Like, WTF? Port begging on reviews now?

I think it's a valid complaint. Monster hunter would absolutely be better on a switch than on a 3ds for some. Me included.

 

[Lion Heart]

Holy balls those scores.

 

[StereoVsn]

Curious to how long it took you to finish P4G? It took me over 90 hours, so I already planned on sinking more into this game. Though I did have a friend who beat it in 50 which was very surprising to me.

It took me about 90, I think. P5 is not really that much longer then P4G.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I'm inclined to say Persona, because it's my favorite series ever. But the original NIER holds a very special place in my heart in my top 10 favorite games and I just started Automata and I must say it is FANTASTIC. Depends what you're feeling; Weighty themed turn-based JRPG or philosophical Action JRPG. I hope which ever you go with, you get around to both of them in the end, because they are both phenomenal.

Oh, I'm definitely buying both eventually!

Thanks for your thoughts. Sounds like I'm good either way.

 

[ToysAndMoreClub]

Yeah, if you start going down this route, you can technically dock any game that lacks a PC version for not allowing you a wide breadth of customization options.



Wouldn't suspend/resume alleviate that?

Not when you are planning on taking an entire day to play a game, and it becomes a chore to get through the early part of it.