I mean I guess. I really don't see the issue. 8.5 is suddenly a bad score. She admits it might be unfair. And it isn't even like it's a completely random criticism, since P4 Golden was on the Vita, so there's a precedent there. It's just silly to get hung up over it.
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Persona 5 Review Thread
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I mean I guess. I really don't see the issue. 8.5 is suddenly a bad score. She admits it might be unfair. And it isn't even like it's a completely random criticism, since P4 Golden was on the Vita, so there's a precedent there. It's just silly to get hung up over it.
*Clicks on IGN link-something tells me it's going to be Andrew Goldfarb....
"BY ANDREW GOLDFARB In stark contrast to...."*
Welp, guess I was right. Andrew's one of the biggest Persona nuts out there in the IGN office, so for him to give that score I'm not too surprised.
Nowadays I get into gaming more when I am on the PC, on the go, or in my bed. *shrug* I know that might sound weird, but yeah.
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JeremyEtcetera
Unconfirmed Member
I can see it now. Geoff Keighly's Game Awards 2017 Nominees for GotY:
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Ghost Recon Wildlands
Call of Duty 2017
Mass Effect: Andromeda
Assassin's Creed 2017
Zelda (just so Reggie shows up with exclusive vids, but it won't win)
and Neogaf will be furious.
I feel like if a mainline pokemon game came out for a console saying something like "yeah pokemon really works better on the go" and docking points for that would be fine. I mean you're allowed to think w/e about the game or her criticism, but she says something she wishes was different and talks about it a bit. It's not hard for me to imagine something like her thinking the game is a 90 and then docking 5 points because she personally thinks it's more suitable for portable gaming.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
You know you can hook up a PS3 to your monitor, right?
Dont you see the rabbit hole this can create?
Grim-Reality
Neo Member
Does it really matter? It's just a number at the end of the day. I think a lot of people would also argue that games like Bloodborne and the Witcher 3 are of similar quality to some of the 95+ scoring games of last gen, and reviews recently have been somewhat harsher than they were 5-10 years ago.
Surprised you didn't include RDR2, but i'm one of the firm believers that it won't release this year. You also didn't include Mario.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I have never heard of this series until recently, and I'm not mad about JRPG's, but these reviews are hard to ignore. Will this be inaccessible to me?
Horizon will be on most shortlists.
Horizon will be on most shortlists.
I'm just curious about OST-related awards. Nier Automata absolutely fucking killed it, but I hear good things regarding Persona 5's.
I see, my PC is connected to my FHD TV and I play my games from my bed, it's quite comfortable that way, so I can't really relate to your situation. I also would've loved to see HH games on my TV(guess the Switch will make that happen) instead, like Persona 4G for example ^^
the_sun_king
Member
Because every minute is worth it in the Persona games.
It's really not that big a deal.
It's just as likely if it was handheld she would of only given it a 9.
klabautermann
Member
Probably because people enjoyed it too much. Many people said they found themselves wishing to go back or hoping it would go on "just one more hour" the entire way through. I understand time sinks are a problem for people (it's probably going to take me quite some time to finish this game considering I work full time amongst other things), but I put in just as many hours into previous entries in the franchise and never felt like it overstayed it's welcome. If it's consistent for those 100 hours, why should it be docked for being 100 hours? I personally prefer longer shows/anime/games because it allows me to become attached to the characters and world.
Not trying to attack you or say length isn't a valid criticism for people, because some people prefer shorter and more concise gaming experiences. But that didn't seem to be an issue for most of these reviewers.
What are these handheld game designs?
Gonna say something totally radical and out-there: a reviewer can dock points for anything they want, because a review is an opinion piece. The reason we get multiple reviews is to get multiple perspectives on a game. This might be better understood if people actually read multiple reviews and synthesized the impressions around their personal tastes rather than complaining about how a given score affects a metascore.
Completely standalone, like FF.
It's a valid point to be raised but not a valid complaint. I mean, RPG in general feels more like a home on modern handheld that can be put to sleep anytime and enable you to play anywhere. But if the game does not exist on a more "fitting" platform, that doesn't mean it deserve a negative over it in any way.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Really? That's pretty cool.
Not surprised that it's "only a 9.7" or not surprised it's rated so high? Others rated it a 10 you know.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Yep lol.
klabautermann
Member
Not completely standalone, they take palce in the same universe and there are a lot of references (though most of them minor, P2 and P4 are the most reference heavy). P3 and P5 are very light on major references and this one should be great to jump into.
schwabdizzle
Banned
If Persona will make more enjoy a game with Turn based combat, then it will when my GOTY by default.
N30RYU
Member
I agree with you... but right now like me some ppl are afraid of spoilers and reviews sometimes talk too much... so right now I just watch a couple of video reviews and read a few conclusions...
i don't know if it was IGN o gamestop video review that popped a "may contain spoilers" and i just jumped to the score...
Can Crusher
Banned
Wanting the game to be on a portable because you want to watch tv while you play either means the gameplay system is crap or you cant focus.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Hydrargyrus
Member
What a year!!!
Absolutely great reviews
Absolutely great reviews
I guess that true, with getting a spare monitor for it or such. I keep that in mind sometime down the road, well if the game is on PSN that is, in case retail doesn't last long for the PS3 version.XD
I don't, but it's not really necessary either. AAA games nowadays will typically cost $40M to develop, and it's pretty obvious that Persona 5 isn't going to be in that range. Moreover, marketing budgets will be similarly large to justify that kind of expense, and it's also obvious that Sega didn't advertise it that much.
Atlus makes relatively modest games because that's where their strengths lie and because it suits the size of staff they have. Persona 5 is bigger than any of their other games, but it's still not in the big boys' league.
People would hate me if I reviewed Zelda. I'm having a ton of fun with the game, but I would dock the shit out of the game for the horse system. It drives me craazy.
It'll happen time and time again with the complaints about x score. I typically know if im going to buy a game or not before reviews and if im on the fence I parse through or read trusted sites to confirm that the things I want from the game indeed work. If I can handle the flaws they mention or dont view them large enough to detract from my own experience then i'm all aboard.
Glad to see Persona 5 is doing well and with embargo up its only a week before its in my hands.
I wish it was 200 hours long
OmNomMonster
Member
Is it needed to play the other games before jumping into this? Really want to get it so I am curious.
DrunkShogun
Member
The score is meaningless and more thought should be given to the actual review itself but that's not how people are unfortunately. Need Amazon to dispatch this on Saturday so I can become "sick" on Tuesday and skip work.
Impulsor
Member
Ermm... a discussion in a forum?
I understand where you are coming from, but since a review is a subjective opinion of an individual that has played the game, I can perfectly understand someone saying, "I would enjoy this game more if it was portable".
It can perfectly earn a worse score because of the platform it exists on, for many reasons, because a platform can make the game feel limited or different, and even play different.
Going back to my Monster Hunter comparison. You immediately miss a second stick, and even if you have the new 3ds, you miss a propper second stick. That didn't stop me from pouring over 300 hours on MH4U on the 3ds.
The platform CAN influence how a person enjoys the game and influence this or hers opinion on it.
Obviously you don't have to agree. I don't, I enjoy playing on my TV way more than portable, but I can totally understand that someone would enjoy the same game more on another platform because of personal preference.
Not surprised it's rated so high. Have you seen Andrew's desk? It's full of Persona merchandise, especially Koromaru.
So what if others have rated it a 10?
I played through the import copy of Persona 5. While I still rate it very highly and I'm pretty pumped to play through it in English, it is by no means a perfect 10 if you were to judge it with a critical eye instead of blind hype.
The Kotaku article echoed one of my thoughts which was one of the final acts went on for a tad longer than it really needed to be.
There are other complaints from myself really,but the positives massively outweigh them.
No, it's perfectly fine to jump in straight away with Persona 5. If you start with Persona 4, you might find yourself too exhausted to carry on with Persona 5 because of how long it takes to clear the game. With that being said, you can always revisit Persona 4 another time.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Just play 5 honestly.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Persona 5 is fine if you don't have the time to play the others. (They're not connected past cameos and easter eggs)
Though if you do have time, check out Persona 3 and 4, they're where the current style of Persona started out.
It honestly doesn't matter. I started with 4 Golden, and had such a good time that I went straight to Persona 3 on my PS2.
You'll also be fine starting with 5 if you wanted to I'm sure, but 4 and 3 would both work about equally as alright.
Btw Persona 2 is totally worth checking out too.
I'd say just play 5, then maybe go back to P3P and P4G.
Modest Mauser
Member
Sure
giancarlo123x
Banned
Jesus ps4 is on God damn fire this year.
Can Crusher
Banned
This is on the same level as people wishing the game got bad scores so they didn't have a reason to buy the game.