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Persona 5 Review Thread

Ban Puncher

Member
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Patrick S.

Banned
As long as you don't go full "HARU BEST GIRL" It's annoying at best and creepy at worst.It gets sexist, weird, and uncomfortable fast. The characters aren't even adults honestly. Tbh I think having it's own thread just encourages it more in general anyway and is just going to turn the community thread into a disaster zone but whatever.

It does make sense when you put it this way, but there may be teenage posters here, too. If a horny 17 year old wants to dream about a digital character, just let him, I'd say. Now, I don't need to read posts like that, and honestly, this will be my first Persona game, so I don't know what to expect, but it's not anything that would bother me.
 

wmlk

Member
It does make sense when you put it this way, but there may be teenage posters here, too. If a horny 17 year old wants to dream about a digital character, just let him, I'd say. Now, I don't need to read posts like that, and honestly, this will be my first Persona game, so I don't know what to expect, but it's not anything that would bother me.

It gets really pervy sometimes. I think the mods know where to draw the line before it gets anywhere near that point.
 

Guess Who

Banned
As long as you don't go full "HARU BEST GIRL" It's annoying at best and creepy at worst.It gets sexist, weird, and uncomfortable fast. The characters aren't even adults honestly. Tbh I think having it's own thread just encourages it more in general anyway and is just going to turn the community thread into a disaster zone but whatever.

In fairness, some of the romance-able characters in this one are, in fact, adults.
 

Zolo

Member
The plan is to have a separate companion thread to the OT for people to put all of their waifu and relationship stuff. Trying to stamp out the conversation entirely isn't going to work when we have a membership this large, anyway, so we're just recommending that people keep it out of the OT where a lot of people would prefer not to deal with it.

Huh. Reminds me of Bioware just making a whole character/romance subforum
that one time had to get locked down for ME3.
 

Alucrid

Banned
It does make sense when you put it this way, but there may be teenage posters here, too. If a horny 17 year old wants to dream about a digital character, just let him, I'd say. Now, I don't need to read posts like that, and honestly, this will be my first Persona game, so I don't know what to expect, but it's not anything that would bother me.

there's going to be a dedicated thread where all horny 17 year olds can congregate and do so. what's the problem now?
 

Holundrian

Unconfirmed Member
Because Persona ain't that serious. There are countless other franchises with a deeper and more nuanced focus on characters where people outwardly claim their favourite characters too.

1. Yeah? I think it's especially worse in Persona given the message behind the games. I certainly don't read people going to war on Chloe vs Elena on regular basis. But maybe I haven't stared into the abyss.
2. I would love for you to share these other countless franchises. Cause I'm pretty fucking sure that I could make my own list and it probably would get super hard to get beyond 20.
Most games I play are sooooo bad about characters like even FF can't seem to get it right in over a decade a franchise that taught me what it means to fall in love with characters to begin with.
 
you clearly don't understand what waifu talk is

Yeah, I've said so before. And the only answer that I've got is that you are not allowed to say which romance character you like. It's a little weird since this game is coming out right after ME:A and no one is mad or offended by people talking about which romances they like in that game.

I guess Persona fans must've gone to some pretty bad extremes in the past, for mods to set a strict rule like that.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
It gets really pervy sometimes. I think the mods know where to draw the line before it gets anywhere near that point.

To be honest, the more I think about it, the more I understand it's weird and gross to read someone who might be a 120kg 40 year old virgin obsess over digital underage boobs.
 
As long as you don't go full "HARU BEST GIRL" It's annoying at best and creepy at worst.It gets sexist, weird, and uncomfortable fast. The characters aren't even adults honestly. Tbh I think having it's own thread just encourages it more in general anyway and is just going to turn the community thread into a disaster zone but whatever.

Yeah I'm sure discussing characters is fine. It's just strange and rather annoying to see people weirdly obsess over them and to consistently pit the female characters against one another.

Like "CHIE BEST GIRL YUKIKO DEAD IN A DITCH" posts that aren't productive and are unnecessarily sexist. It's like how FF7 threads almost always have people arguing over Tifa and Aeris/th with posts like "TIFA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AERITH lellllllllll" Why the hell is it so hard to appreciate these female characters without having to bring down the other ones.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Yeah, I've said so before. And the only answer that I've got is that you are not allowed to say which romance character you like. It's a little weird since this game is coming out right after ME:A and no one is mad or offended by people talking about which romances they like in that game.

I guess Persona fans must've gone to some pretty bad extremes in the past, for mods to set a strict rule like that.
It's a volume thing. The waifu/husbando thread is quite possibly going to be longer than the OT, perhaps by a very significant margin.

Similarly we've had split singleplayer/multiplayer OTs for games where the multiplayer and singleplayer are very distinct, but people want to talk about both in large volume, and feel focusing each thread would help.
 

wmlk

Member
1. Yeah? I think it's especially worse in Persona given the message behind the games. I certainly don't read people going to war on Chloe vs Elena on regular basis. But maybe I haven't stared into the abyss.
2. I would love for you to share these other countless franchises. Cause I'm pretty fucking sure that I could make my own list and it probably would get super hard to get beyond 20.
Most games I play are sooooo bad about characters like even FF can't seem to get it right in over a decade a franchise that taught me what it means to fall in love with characters to begin with.

I wasn't even thinking about video games. More along the lines of franchises in general.

And I'd argue Persona's calendar system only allows you to invest selectively. Usually people have to pick favourites based on initial impressions and stick with that. You don't find out about every character because you won't have the time to.
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
I'm not sure if I'm getting this straight. Talk of female characters is fine, as long as the romantic aspects of their Confident story is not brought up right?

Are some of you trolling? If you're creating a volatile conversation about female characters that offer no insight whatsoever then that would be a bannable offense.

No husbandos either!

Animal/mascot wars?
 

SaniOYOYOY

Member
Yeah, I've said so before. And the only answer that I've got is that you are not allowed to say which romance character you like. It's a little weird since this game is coming out right after ME:A and no one is mad or offended by people talking about which romances they like in that game.

I guess Persona fans must've gone to some pretty bad extremes in the past, for mods to set a strict rule like that.

you have no idea, persona waifu war is unlike any other. I guess that tells the brilliance of the game tho. character feels so real sometime they can feel like you friend, thus someone will gravitate to certain character more
Im having none of that in OT. So if there are that companion waifu thread no excuse then to bring those into the OT

No husbandos either!
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It does make sense when you put it this way, but there may be teenage posters here, too. If a horny 17 year old wants to dream about a digital character, just let him, I'd say. Now, I don't need to read posts like that, and honestly, this will be my first Persona game, so I don't know what to expect, but it's not anything that would bother me.

In fairness, some of the romance-able characters in this one are, in fact, adults.

Yeah I'm sure discussing characters is fine. It's just strange and rather annoying to see people weirdly obsess over them and to consistently pit the female characters against one another.

Like "CHIE BEST GIRL YUKIKO DEAD IN A DITCH" posts that aren't productive and are unnecessarily sexist. It's like how FF7 threads almost always have people arguing over Tifa and Aeris/th with posts like "TIFA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AERITH lellllllllll" Why the hell is it so hard to appreciate these female characters without having to bring down the other ones.

I know people are gonna be all "Censorship!! Sensitive babies! etc" but look, obviously the Persona fandom knows it's people. They literally cannot handle being given clearance to made cheeky comments about female characters.It's not a "haha 2B is my android waifu, ok let's talk about the essence of human nature as a central plot theme"

EVERY place of Persona discussion proves this. It never goes well. It just snowballs into even worse arguments about gender and gender expression and might as well just serve as a mod honey pot at some point. A LOT of women play Persona as well and it just feels fucking gross and unwelcoming and makes you not want to have any discussion at all. Like the example above, Chie and Yukiko are BEST FRIENDS. Their ACTUAL plot arcs revolve around their friendship. To say something like YUKIKO DEAD IN A DITCH to "defend Chie (not an absurd example btw) isn't even in keeping with the spirit of the game. Now you're just talking about some unrelated doujin nonsense and they can keep that mess at sankaku complex or wherever people go to unleash their inner gross weeboo these days.
 

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
Are some of you trolling? If you're creating a volatile conversation about female characters that offer no insight whatsoever then that would be a bannable offense.

Like I've said before in this thread, English is not my first language and I still struggle with it. Sorry about that.

I don't appreciate the hostility over a simple question, where I'm just looking for clear clarification over what "waifu shit" means.
 

Holundrian

Unconfirmed Member
I wasn't even thinking about video games. More along the lines of franchises in general.

And I'd argue Persona's calendar system only allows you to invest selectively. Usually people have to pick favourites based on initial impressions and stick with that. You don't find out about every character because you won't have the time to.

Yeah ok I don't disagree that if we look across all mediums videogames as a newer one gets beat handily. As for the you have to pick guess I'm the outlier as someone that always tries/does max slink runs so my experience of "having to choose" is very different.
 

Doran902

Member
Are the time limits in games like this as atrocious as a game like say Dead Rising (i just don't like time limits). Or is it more like you can only do x amount of things per day. Combat / Art / Music have me wanting to play it but I really don't like time limits.
 

pablito

Member
I'm interested to see what my real-laifu waifu thinks of a Persona game.

I played 3/4 before we were really together (It has been a long time since 4 came out on PS2!)

Lol...laifu

My laifu loves watching me play Persona and was sad that she was going to miss some stuff while at the gym last night. I kept the story progression to a minimum for her.
 
Use common sense. You can talk about stuff as long as you aren't being a creep about it or talking about how you imagine your life would be if you married them irl and go into explicit detail about your children and how she's going to serve you Toast while you run out the door to your job as an anime director that you moved to Japan for.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Are the time limits in games like this as atrocious as a game like say Dead Rising (i just don't like time limits). Or is it more like you can only do x amount of things per day. Combat / Art / Music have me wanting to play it but I really don't like time limits.

It's not a real-time time limit. It's just that you can choose X number of activities in the day.
 
Are the time limits in games like this as atrocious as a game like say Dead Rising (i just don't like time limits). Or is it more like you can only do x amount of things per day. Combat / Art / Music have me wanting to play it but I really don't like time limits.

More like X amount of things per day or you have a set amount of days to complete a dungeon for a main plot point. I played 3 and 4 Completely blind and never fucked up or ran out of time to do something. Usually freaks people out, but it's really not that bad. The time allotted is pretty reasonable.
 

Shouta

Member
Are some of you trolling? If you're creating a volatile conversation about female characters that offer no insight whatsoever then that would be a bannable offense.



Animal/mascot wars?

There's already a clear winner there especially after playing Persona 5. There is no need for discussion.
 

robotrock

Banned
It's not a real-time time limit. It's just that you can choose X number of activities in the day.

I haven't played this one yet, but I think Persona 3 and Persona 4 both had some limits in dungeon that required you to progress to a certain point by a certain in game calendar day. I think.

They are extremely generous limits though
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
I haven't played this one yet, but I think Persona 3 and Persona 4 both had some limits in dungeon that required you to progress to a certain point by a certain in game calendar day. I think.

They are extremely generous limits though

Yes. But what I mean is that it's not like "You must finish this within 1 hour of actual wall clock time." unless something has changed.
 
I mean relationships are a part of the game so the developers are condoning it anyway.

They encourage it less through offering relationships alone and more through things like emphasizing Naoto's feminine traits so she gets all submissive and embarrassed, which is indeed featured in her romantic path. Maybe an extreme example compared to others, but that's there.

best phallic persona wars

Mara wins by default, especially if Mishaguji is absent!
 

Tubie

Member
Just preordered this on PSN! The theme and avatars you get are pretty cool.

For me digital is the way to go for a game like this. This will probably take me months and months to be completely done with it.
 
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