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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE
- Thread starter Dantis
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4 and 3 are equal for me. 5's is really boring.
Maybe it'll mean more to me when I play it in English, but I doubt it.
There are a few really standout tracks (Blooming Villain and a few of the dungeon tracks are Meguro at his best), but I feel like a lot of it is just, well, there.
Dragon1893
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Holy shit!
Mediking
Member
Now THAT is awesome!!!
BRSxIgnition
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Seems like Mollipen took issue with the Confidants... Hmm... Now I'm worried.
Cannon_Fodder
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Worried about what? I'm guessing either her score or the quality of the Confidants?
BRSxIgnition
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A bit of both, I guess? Our opinions lined up a good bit on NieR: Automata.
Cannon_Fodder
Member
Not that this is a thing someone should bet on, but I bet that she's talking about the romance options in that tweet. It'll be interesting to see in the final review.
I'm actually pretty interested to see how reviews in general shake out. Based on tweets and the like from various reviewers, I think there's going to be a split between people absolutely loving it and others coming away disappointed; which seems very different from the almost universal love it got in import reviews.
And no Dantis, this is not an opportunity for you to say, "I told you so," haha.
somotodsyo
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Not sure about the situation in other countries, but the biggest Dutch retailers list 59,99 as the price for P5. Doesn't explain why it's more expensive in the PS Store, but I suggest checking with some retailers to see if you can find it cheaper.
BRSxIgnition
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Hmm, number of options, or quality? I'm assuming both are similar to 3 & 4, and if they are, it's about what I expect. Can you confirm/deny? (As spoiler-free as possible)
That's something I've been seeing around, yeah. Some absolutely love every inch of it, while some enjoy it, but don't praise it to nearly the same extent.
I certainly hope it does well though.
My assumption would also be that she is referring to romance options.
You're right, that comes tomorrow.
I'm not sure the best way to say this but if it has boobs you can date it. Quality, idk.
BRSxIgnition
Member
If they have*
You can date them*
Going for the blunt approach I see. (But thanks, I get it. Not something I'll get riled up about then, honestly.)
In all honesty, kinda? I mean, both Persona 3 and Persona 4 Golden were amazing stories that will stick with me for a long long time - based on all I know of Persona 5, I'm expecting similar here.
Also, no, Dantis, this isn't where you stick your opinion in and try to preemptively ruin something for someone else.
Yes, and I mean, why shouldn't you? I expect the same for me, but there will always be ones who won't love Persona 5 and who didn't love Persona 3 or 4.
I am not worried at all just because somebody on twitter said they had different expectations towards some confidants. (My guess is she was way too optimistic and expected a Japanese developer to include same sex romances.)
Cannon_Fodder
Member
Not really? I'm just saying it will be interesting to see the consensus in English reviews compared to the consensus from import reviews.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Yeah, as much as I hate it, I've grown accustomed to how rare/improbable that is now.
I still have my fingers crossed that there will be a FeMC in the inevitable Persona 5 Definitive/Portable edition though. Loved the FeMC in P3P.
GwyndolinCinder
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Shes the only reviewer i actually agreed with for Nier, so i will make sure to read it after im done with p5.
Dantis in the Brink of Memories - Told You So, feat. PKGaming
Tomorrow on iTunes.
Cancelling my pre-order if this doesn't surpass GTA IV.
Actually, I haven't pre-ordered the game
Dead End Irony
Member
Aside from mollipen and Edge magazine, everyone else seems extremely happy with it. But I haven't seen that much feedback. Where are the negative tweets from everyone else?
Ask Dantis
He must be making a montage right now with a big "Told you so" as title haha
Hey, Edge seemed pretty happy with it. lol
BRSxIgnition
Member
Yeah, and honestly I'd chalk the -1 point difference from Persona 4 Golden's 9 up to the difference in reviewer.
I mean, if y'all're expecting perfect scores or a perfect game... don't? P5 is a very very good JRPG, but it's got storytelling problems, occasional dungeon gameplay issues, etc.
But to put things into perspective: I never finished P3 and never even wanted to pick up P4. I don't really play many JRPGs anymore, and honestly my gaming time is kind of limited due to life in general. But I played P5 for 90 hours and got all the SLs. So that's my endorsement.
But to put things into perspective: I never finished P3 and never even wanted to pick up P4. I don't really play many JRPGs anymore, and honestly my gaming time is kind of limited due to life in general. But I played P5 for 90 hours and got all the SLs. So that's my endorsement.
I would say the exact same thing about Persona 4 Golden lol.
Mediking
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And I would say the exact same thing about Persona 3 FES. Lol
Honestly, I feel it describes most recent MegaTen games.
I do feel from what I've seen and what I know of the story that it's a step above Persona 3 FES and Persona 4 Golden tho. It's not perfect; but Atlus definitely learned from P4/P4G.
A Dead Diehard
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I find statements like "the game is not perfect" or "it has flaws" very... Useless as a piece of criticism? Really obvious? You can apply it to any given piece of media you could think of, it's hardly something worth mentioning as a negative. This isn't particularly aimed at any of you guys, but moreso the general discourse surrounding critically acclaimed games such as BOTW and Nier Automata lately, specially the former. The last few posts just gave me an excuse to bring it up.
Perfection as a measurement of quality is useless. It's an ideal to strive for but not an achievable goal, specially considering how abstract and subjective it is in the first place. Something doesn't need to be perfect to be a 10/10 in the eyes of many.
That said, tempering your expectations is always good advice.
Perfection as a measurement of quality is useless. It's an ideal to strive for but not an achievable goal, specially considering how abstract and subjective it is in the first place. Something doesn't need to be perfect to be a 10/10 in the eyes of many.
That said, tempering your expectations is always good advice.
ASilentProtagonist
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The minor issues I have with it are really nitpicky. Its quality is sky high, and impressively consistent, it's hard not to score this what it deserves imo.
To be fair, I only use such statements to avoid gameplay and story spoilers. I don't want to go into details (even with spoiler tags) until people have had the chance to play the game for themselves. I suspect a lot of people will share one common criticism of the game tho.
BRSxIgnition
Member
What have you been hearing around the review circuit? People seem to agree with you, or are they more mixed on it? (Can't wait to post the Review Thread tomorrow.)
That's fair, which is why I said it wasn't aimed at any one statement here. Seeing people try to discredit the scores BOTW got as "the game isn't perfect" just kinda created a new pet peeve of mine.
He previously said the game was being very highly regarded among other critics.
EDIT: Jason Schreier was also very positive about the game.
ASilentProtagonist
Member
Agreement!
BRSxIgnition
Member
Oh I know - but it's a long game, and I was wondering how things were developing.
I just noticed that Amazon lists the steelbook edition as €67,99 and the standard edition as €69,99, which leads me to believe that the prices will probably change before release. The standard edition might even drop to €59,99, I have noticed similar pre-release price changes on Amazon before.
I mean, to follow up on my previous post with a little more substance: I feel like P5's plot goes off the rails to some extent near the end, in the sense that I like the ideas of what they were going for but the execution is kind of muddled and a few important character beats get lost as a result. I also feel like the game's themes of catharsis and taking down corruption occasionally dance a little close to wish fulfillment/power fantasies, especially in some of the co-ops.
My other big critique is that the game feels a little too safe, in the sense that it replays the P3/P4 formula to a T (if polished to a shine). But for some people that's totally fine!
I still think it's a very strong game, though, and pretty much all the buzz I've heard amongst reviewers and fellow importers is very positive besides a few points here and there like the above.
My other big critique is that the game feels a little too safe, in the sense that it replays the P3/P4 formula to a T (if polished to a shine). But for some people that's totally fine!
I still think it's a very strong game, though, and pretty much all the buzz I've heard amongst reviewers and fellow importers is very positive besides a few points here and there like the above.
Well i take it back ... Cherami Leigh actually sounds great as Makoto , need to hear actual battle lines , but she nailed in the story scenes , im impressed actually.
Seems another worry i got to take back in a dub / localization which been judged asf but so far sounds flawless... not even those weird and literal translation , everything sounds natural great as previous Persona games.
Seems another worry i got to take back in a dub / localization which been judged asf but so far sounds flawless... not even those weird and literal translation , everything sounds natural great as previous Persona games.
BRSxIgnition
Member
If they re-recorded "FISTS OF JUSTICE" I will be the happiest person ever.
Otherwise, I'm not sure how long I'd be able to stand that, considering I plan to have her in my party asap.
Thats is my mind right now in normal , calm lines she sounds flawless and the tone she got is great, and a right tone for the character personality
But i need to see (hear) how she sounds when she went "furious" in battle because everytime she sounds angry in her trailer she sounds forced asf (FISTS OF JUSTICE in the top of it).
But i like i say , i had my expections low but she doing great , like the dub in general.
somotodsyo
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Huh, I thought Europe only got the standard edition after the steelbook edition sold out, since the two retailers I talked about only have the premium and steelbook editions. (Which makes the PS Store price even weirder since the fancy steelbook eiditon is cheaper than the digital game )
Mediking
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And I...
would laugh at you.
Lmao! XD
One day you will realize that Persona 3 FES is timeless awesomeness
INB4: "Mediking... can't you see that P3 FES has flaws?"
Yup. I do. Lol I know.
I don't know why everyone thought Cherami Leigh wouldn't work as Makoto, that role is custom made for her.
The only one I'm worried about at this point is Haru, and even then the voice they picked isn't a bad fit.
