The extra content exclusive to BG:EE will probably make it incompatible with Baldur's Gate Trilogy, if you prefer rolling that way (as I do). This is just a guess, though.
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Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment (Kickstarter) [Up: Teaser]
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The extra content exclusive to BG:EE will probably make it incompatible with Baldur's Gate Trilogy, if you prefer rolling that way (as I do). This is just a guess, though.
Minsc
Gold Member
That's good to know then... i never really got wind of the specifics, but I guess we can clear all the warnings away except for BG:EE, which doesn't really need the mods as much anyway.
It's possible though we might see a new BGT after BG2:EE is released, but I agree, very unlikely it would work right at first.
SerArthurDayne
Member
Three new party members and a new dungeon area. Otherwise it is pretty much just incorporating some of the mod enhancements.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Alright, time to check out Minsc's links and find the best mods for the IE games.
Then I'll throw up the thread whenever I've organized everything better.
Then I'll throw up the thread whenever I've organized everything better.
Thanks. Nothing noteworthy then.
There's an on-going Planescape: Torment Let's Play (it started at the end of September). I think it would be smarter to continue that one, since I doubt that the people who are currently playing it, will start it again so soon.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491967&highlight=
I am also in favor of starting with PS:T since I am midway through the game right now. Also we should do like people suggested before and try to schedule the Arcanum playthrough at the same time that Chris Avellone plays it.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Good point, the only problem with that is if we were to start playing Arcanum alongside Avellone (which I think would be too neat to give up on).
Putting Planescape: Torment alongside Arcanum would be one compromise, the other would be to put Planescape: Torment far enough for people to want to play it again (it's that good).
Seeing as we kinda have 2 years before Project Eternity is launched, we could just a collective "Let's play!" for Planescape: Torment in exactly a year
Man I've played through BG2 at least 6 times (and it is not a short game if you do everything), but I've never finished throne of bhaal. I couldn't get it when it came out because I was about half a step from living in a cardboard box but when I finally DID buy it, things kept happening to stop me from playing it.
Had my computer get destroyed by a power surge the first time, then I had to give away the free PC I got as a replacement from my brother (and I forgot to backup my saves), then a hard drive failure when I tried again a couple years later. The farthest I ever got was right before a water pipe broke in my apartment and I got forced out the day before christmas in 2007. I still have that save somewhere, but the computer's all packed up in a box and I just don't care. Because obliterating everything with improved alacrity time stop horrid wilting got boring. And it seems like disasters follow that game every time I play it so I'm scared to start it up again.
I think I'll play Arcanum though.
Had my computer get destroyed by a power surge the first time, then I had to give away the free PC I got as a replacement from my brother (and I forgot to backup my saves), then a hard drive failure when I tried again a couple years later. The farthest I ever got was right before a water pipe broke in my apartment and I got forced out the day before christmas in 2007. I still have that save somewhere, but the computer's all packed up in a box and I just don't care. Because obliterating everything with improved alacrity time stop horrid wilting got boring. And it seems like disasters follow that game every time I play it so I'm scared to start it up again.
I think I'll play Arcanum though.
StoppedInTracks
Member
People are too rough on two RPGs in history: Ultima 9 and NWN1. They are nowhere as bad as yall make them out to be...
... ok, truth be told NWN1 alone is pretty bad... get the 2 Expansion Packs (Hordes of the Underdark turns NWN1 from a "pretty bad" to a "whoa, cool!" game) and mandatory get the Sands of Fate trilogy (a mod).
SoF1:
http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Modules.Detail&id=3940
SoF2:
http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=modules.detail&id=4208
SoF3:
http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=modules.detail&id=4968
Sands of Fate turn NWN1 from a "whoa, cool!" to a "this is simply amazing!" game. Right on par with BG1 level.
Be warned, though, Sands of Fate is pretty long and hard. Cannot spoil it for you guys but it is really, really fucking amazing.
Still it doesn't mean NWN1 is a good game. Main campain is terrible. Only second expansion was better but still it wasn't OMFG amazing. First two acts are just unbearable.
NWN thought has awesome mod support but mod support doesn't make vanilla game better.
It's same as Oblivion. Oblivion is a shitty game but mods are fantastic.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
This NWN1 hate :'-(
CrichtonKicks
Member
SquiddyBiscuit said:
NWN1 has nothing remotely as awesome as the NWN2's Trial and the Stronghold stuff.
InternHertz
Member
Don't worry, I'll make it very clear that I'm the sole person on NeoGAF who genuinly enjoyed NWN1
I loved NWN 1 too! Single-player and creator parts were both awesome I thought.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Coming from BG2: Throne of Bhaal to NWN1 is like coming from Deus Ex to Deus Ex: Invisible War.
Unpleasant to say the least.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
haha, oh god that game
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I believe someone from Obsidian confirmed that the Orlans and the Aumaua were both going to be playable in the AMA.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
have you already decided if the Aumaua and Orlans are going to be playable races? (selectable by the player at the start of the game?)
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JESawyer: Yes, we are planning to have aumaua and orlans as two of our playable races.
Yep, looks like it.
Ah well, I wasn't that impressed by the Orlans, but the fish people are somewhat refreshing.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, I got it day one and I was pretty pumped. After BG2 Bioware could do no wrong. I was so very wrong.
From the project Eternity subreddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/11ng6a/pledge_totals_and_a_big_thank_you/
http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/11ng6a/pledge_totals_and_a_big_thank_you/
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Deleted member 102362
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They said we can get a 15th level in the mega-dungeon if they hit 40,000 Facebook likes. In other words, there's still the chance we can see the titan's feet!
SerArthurDayne
Member
Was going to say they messed up the dungeon levels, but they fixed it already.
Anyways, 15 is way too big. I wonder if they will ramp up the difficulty, meaning you have to come back after you hit a wall. Probably for the best, I imagine a dungeon that large is rut you could get stuck in and never finish the game.
Already at 15. They fixed the mistake. I doubt we get enough late PayPal or Facebook likes to get to 16, though.
Anyways, 15 is way too big. I wonder if they will ramp up the difficulty, meaning you have to come back after you hit a wall. Probably for the best, I imagine a dungeon that large is rut you could get stuck in and never finish the game.
Already at 15. They fixed the mistake. I doubt we get enough late PayPal or Facebook likes to get to 16, though.
Fifteen levels explicitly confirmed. And apparently they're still running with the likes to increase it.
They're looking into bringing the D&D game to youtube. Arcanum may be a 'holiday special' stream.
A smart move would be to include shortcuts out periodically, every four levels or so, so it's possible to break off and come back without having to battle through from the top again.
I'm pretty sure the Dungeon is optional. If they follow the Watcher's Keep formula, it's more like a stand-alone thing.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
I'd imagine so- old forgotten magic stones, or just some sort of rickety wooden lift!.
Something of a tangent, but I wonder what's going to happen with travel; an overworld like Fallout and BG is a given, with random encounters probably, but I wonder if teleportation magic exists to bypass it at a huge magic cost, whether we'll need to buy food and water, etc.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i admit that the original design for NWN sounded really good. i actually made a thread about awhile back called NWN: What could have been . Its a shame that Bioware did not go with the original idea.
Seeing that head i was immediately reminded of PS:Ts Glyve in the Weeping Stone Catacombs.
SerArthurDayne
Member
Technically
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
When you consider a dungeon like Watcher's Keep was only about 6 levels, 15 seems massive.
I thought of the exact same thing, heh.
What if Bioware takes inspiration from this Kickstarter-driven resurgence of oldschool RPG goodness and makes Dragon Age III not suck?
Can such a thing
SerArthurDayne
Member
I'll find out when I buy it used for 10 bucks.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Nothing would make me happier. Seeing the developers response to how DA2 was received i doubt that very much though.
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Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
I just noticed Obsidian hasn't connected their Facebook account to their KS one. Wouldn't that help if they really want more likes?
Except Bioware is owned by EA and not independent like Obsidian. Hopefully they learned from their mistakes with DA2 and EA let's them release a quality product.
Minsc
Gold Member
Reminds me of Diablo 1. But yes, I see (and hope) this 15 level dungeon is optional and has each level significantly more difficult than the last and final handful could possibly be near impossible without also playing the expansion for more levels and experience. But even if they don't take it that far, it would be nice to at least break it up so you aren't stuck in a 10 hour optional dungeon with the only way out being trekking up 13 maze-like floors to the top.
If Bioware weren't owned in their entirety by EA then... maybe? In their current state, especially with the doctors gone I wouldn't hold out much hope.
SerArthurDayne
Member
Lets? Bioware isn't exactly a victim here.
With a demogorgon at the bottom!
I already asked and they said "It has to be a real person, not a group"
Although Arcanum's setting is wonderful, Torment is a far better game.