for fairness' sake, I had a polish friend that once told me that hussars didn't really wear the wings to battleYou think that is silly ....
then here look at this:
If you see someone funny looking on battlefield you know shit is about to get real.
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Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment (Kickstarter) [Up: Teaser]
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lol, you may have a point.
Sentenza
Gold Member
Not bad. Not bad at all.
A sure improvement over the previous ones.
for fairness' sake, I had a polish friend that once told me that hussars didn't really wear the wings to battle
This unit was used in over 250 years of history and at that time there was no better cavalry. Definitely in last part of those 250 years wings were not used in battle.
Still looking at charge of heavy cavalry with dudes wearing lions ,tiger pelts would probably frighten anyone in middle of europe.
what I mean is that they're probably just ornaments for parades or something like that.
I am forever at odds with that polish guy but I think that's what he said
Mister_Bubbles
Member
Decent update - looking forward to seeing the results of their dynamic environment experiments in a couple of weeks' time.
http://m.pcgamer.com/2013/03/29/chris-avellone-interview-torment-project-eternity-and-beyond
PC Gamer interviews Chris Avellone. He talks about Project Eternity, Fallout: New Vegas and the new Torment game.
PC Gamer interviews Chris Avellone. He talks about Project Eternity, Fallout: New Vegas and the new Torment game.
new update: in which Chris Avellone continues to be the worst Arcanum player ever.
also some documentary stuff. it'll be a 45 minute film released alongside of the game.
also some documentary stuff. it'll be a 45 minute film released alongside of the game.
New update with the first in-game footage of a level http://youtu.be/AUleDEFkUtE
This looks awesome, I love the 2d.
This looks awesome, I love the 2d.
So beautiful. Gimme.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Game looks beautiful, really loved the nice touches of wind, water. Don't mind the "traditional fantasy" setting one bit at this point.
O.DOGG
Member
So excited to see the game in motion. They've done a great job. It far exceeded my expectations. I find it hard to believe it's all in 2D, especially that lighting. Amazing stuff.
Hopefully this will mean more people using 2D in the future, if they can pull off this level of quality with it.
Hopefully this will mean more people using 2D in the future, if they can pull off this level of quality with it.
double subscription that bitch bro
Update #50: So... Project Eternity!
new update with a faq for people that haven't been following the game too closely:
also a pic of the tongue twisting aumaua race, I like how they look:
they're supposed to be some sort of brutish fish people, that sounds up my alley.
other than that nothing really interesting for us folk
also more MCA x arcanum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXcJNo9eYsE
so many video resolution options
new update with a faq for people that haven't been following the game too closely:
also a pic of the tongue twisting aumaua race, I like how they look:
they're supposed to be some sort of brutish fish people, that sounds up my alley.
other than that nothing really interesting for us folk
also more MCA x arcanum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXcJNo9eYsE
so many video resolution options
he actually uses the map wtf season 1 ruined
Update #50: So... Project Eternity!
new update with a faq for people that haven't been following the game too closely:
also a pic of the tongue twisting aumaua race, I like how they look:
they're supposed to be some sort of brutish fish people, that sounds up my alley.
other than that nothing really interesting for us folk
also more MCA x arcanum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXcJNo9eYsE
so many video resolution options
he actually uses the map wtf season 1 ruined
Don't you need to use the map in Arcanum? The game world is huge.
I can't watch him play Arcanum, he does everything wrong. It's really baffling.
I think i would shit my pants if i'd see a massive, roaring, winged heavy armored cavalary charging towards me, so that's understandable.
I always read that there were also used in battles: apparently they were generating a very loud noise during cavalary charge that was scaring enemies and, most important, their horses.
I think i would shit my pants if i'd see a massive, roaring, winged heavy armored cavalary charging towards me, so that's understandable.
yeah but it was almost becoming like one of those jokes that become funny just because of how long they get, or something.
but good on him for finally using it, it was gonna get old soonish.
in his defense, arcanum is terrible at interface and just starting you out, I remember dying over and over to those fucking wolves myself (though a lot less than him rofl).
he should've read the manual tho
well then I guess they were.
my friend wasn't all that trustworthy anyways. none of my friends are :/
AstroZombie
Banned
I wonder what Tim Cain thinks about Avellone's LP.
Update #50: So... Project Eternity!
new update with a faq for people that haven't been following the game too closely:
also a pic of the tongue twisting aumaua race, I like how they look:
they're supposed to be some sort of brutish fish people, that sounds up my alley.
other than that nothing really interesting for us folk
also more MCA x arcanum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXcJNo9eYsE
so many video resolution options
he actually uses the map wtf season 1 ruined
I'm so glad he's finally out of the starting area. Though, at the pace he's going and with an episode every two weeks, Eternity will be out before he's finished with Arcanum.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Probably that it's hilarious.
This is what I'm thinking when I watch the playthrough, he is struggling and criticizing so often that it would be great to have some commentary from one of the creator who happens to work at the office next door.
He is just new dude starting Arcanum. I was like that too. Arcanum isn't your typical RPG. There is alchemy, engineering which he wasn't even know it exist, magic system which he even didn't notice.
For first 0-6 hours he will discover new things and this is why Arcanum is beautiful.
Tim Cain is probably too busy actually working with Sawyer on fleshing out the mechanics of Project Eternity. I bet he walks over every now and then and shakes his head.
If Sawyer is reading this, maybe he can confirm or deny!
Im about 2 hours in and the game is pretty easy. How did he die against the wolves?
Unless he's trying to play a gunslinger. I only watched the first episode of the LP
One thing I love about arcanum is when you get knocked out, everyone kicks the shit out of you and then you die. The first time I saw it, it took me off guard because I've never seen an RPG like that before.
Im about 2 hours in and the game is pretty easy. How did he die against the wolves?
Unless he's trying to play a gunslinger. I only watched the first episode of the LP
Instead of using the map to travel to Shrouded Hills, he wanted to walk. He didn't realize that the wolves past the starting area were meant to be a way to force you to use the map and he ended up dying a lot. When he finally tried to use the map he got the "Your path is blocked" message which resulted in more wolf death. It also didn't help that he spent all of his points on persuasion and charisma.
I did this on my last playthrough and had a gang like the world has never seen.
I had six followers, so we were 7 dudes & dudettes roaming and slaughtering evildoers. When I got to the Void, I recruited a few more. I had 10 characters in my party by the end. The funny part is that I took the peaceful way out in the final confrontation.
AstroZombie
Banned
Tim Cain is probably too busy actually working with Sawyer on fleshing out the mechanics of Project Eternity. I bet he walks over every now and then and shakes his head.
If Sawyer is reading this, maybe he can confirm or deny!
I bet Tim is busy eating chocolate, the man loves chocolate.
Looks like Sawyer posted some interesting thoughts on Baldur's Gate 2 very recently: http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/449392305086952316
Pretty relevant to Project Eternity too.
Pretty relevant to Project Eternity too.
Sentenza
Gold Member
Can't say I share most of his complaints about the game, even if I can easily see where they come from.
- Having a lot of NPCs was great and gave to the player great freedom about how to compose his party and what role cover himself. Of course, more depth and more interactions are always welcomed, but we all know that at some point you have to deal with trade offs.
- Not too fond of that plot point either, and I never liked Imoen much in the first place, but it didn't bother me at all. And in a story arc as "campy" and "corny" as BG generally was, that doesn't make much of a difference for me.
- I'm eventually all for drier dialogues and I often argued in the past with friends trying to convince me that writing in BG2 was excellent. It wasn't. Then again it was a lot of fun and recognizable characters all around, and it's very easy to get "dry" wrong and go for boring.
- This is the point where I probably agree less: fuck that. Having a shitload of quests, even completely unrelated to the main plot, was very enjoyable to me, and I think that BG2 generally had a far better pacing and content distribution that BG1.
- Having a lot of NPCs was great and gave to the player great freedom about how to compose his party and what role cover himself. Of course, more depth and more interactions are always welcomed, but we all know that at some point you have to deal with trade offs.
- Not too fond of that plot point either, and I never liked Imoen much in the first place, but it didn't bother me at all. And in a story arc as "campy" and "corny" as BG generally was, that doesn't make much of a difference for me.
- I'm eventually all for drier dialogues and I often argued in the past with friends trying to convince me that writing in BG2 was excellent. It wasn't. Then again it was a lot of fun and recognizable characters all around, and it's very easy to get "dry" wrong and go for boring.
- This is the point where I probably agree less: fuck that. Having a shitload of quests, even completely unrelated to the main plot, was very enjoyable to me, and I think that BG2 generally had a far better pacing and content distribution that BG1.
Well, his complaints are a mix of correct and... weird I guess.
1. The amount of CNPCs in BG2 was indeed very large, so some of them were less developed than others - But I think I can honestly say none of them were boring and all of them added something to your group. Even Cernd, undoubtedly the biggest bore-fest in the game, had a pretty cool story with his son and all. I will again iterate my unpopular opinion that most of BG2's CNPCS easily triumph PS:T's in quality. But I really can't understand how BG2 could possibly have such an amount of quality content, so I can understand wanting less NPCs if that keeps their quality at BG2 level.
2. Saving Imoen was just last week a cause for a very long argument about the game with my flatmates - First, I will have to say the game actually doesn't make you save Imoen, It makes you either save her or go after Irenicus. If you hate her, you could just go after him for revenge or finding out what power he tried to untap in you. But both motivations are pretty weak IMO, so I guess I sort of agree (This is also problematic from the perspective of the game Damseling Imoen, thank you Anita for making me think of this). Though I will say they did a fantastic job at making you relate to Imoen at the beginning of the game, she had many dialogues with you, she's one of the only characters you could talk to about this crazy dungeon around you at this point in the game, and you can't really hate her when you understand that the subtext basically implies she was raped.
3. Eh. The dialogues in BG2 were the best. I'm not a fan of "dry" dialogues. I think BG2 got the mix of comedy, seriousness, flamboyance and dryness perfectly right and I hope PE can strike that same balance.
4. Athkatla was huge living hub filled with quality content wherever you sneeze, but it could be a bit overwhelming at first... Especially considering the quality of every quest sometimes made them incredibly long, which meant you were swamped with endless stuff all the time. I think the pacing in Athakatla could have been improved a bit to be less overwhelming at first.
1. The amount of CNPCs in BG2 was indeed very large, so some of them were less developed than others - But I think I can honestly say none of them were boring and all of them added something to your group. Even Cernd, undoubtedly the biggest bore-fest in the game, had a pretty cool story with his son and all. I will again iterate my unpopular opinion that most of BG2's CNPCS easily triumph PS:T's in quality. But I really can't understand how BG2 could possibly have such an amount of quality content, so I can understand wanting less NPCs if that keeps their quality at BG2 level.
2. Saving Imoen was just last week a cause for a very long argument about the game with my flatmates - First, I will have to say the game actually doesn't make you save Imoen, It makes you either save her or go after Irenicus. If you hate her, you could just go after him for revenge or finding out what power he tried to untap in you. But both motivations are pretty weak IMO, so I guess I sort of agree (This is also problematic from the perspective of the game Damseling Imoen, thank you Anita for making me think of this). Though I will say they did a fantastic job at making you relate to Imoen at the beginning of the game, she had many dialogues with you, she's one of the only characters you could talk to about this crazy dungeon around you at this point in the game, and you can't really hate her when you understand that the subtext basically implies she was raped.
3. Eh. The dialogues in BG2 were the best. I'm not a fan of "dry" dialogues. I think BG2 got the mix of comedy, seriousness, flamboyance and dryness perfectly right and I hope PE can strike that same balance.
4. Athkatla was huge living hub filled with quality content wherever you sneeze, but it could be a bit overwhelming at first... Especially considering the quality of every quest sometimes made them incredibly long, which meant you were swamped with endless stuff all the time. I think the pacing in Athakatla could have been improved a bit to be less overwhelming at first.
A Black Falcon
Member
Hmm... well, I agree with that last point for sure; you're hit with far too many quests right when you reach Athkatla. They should have been spread out more.
As for Imoen, I did want to rescue her (she's someone I knew from the first game, of course, and also given her class change, she's another mage for the party!), but I can see why he'd have a problem with it being required.
That first point, though... I thought that BG2 balanced that well. BG1 had lots of possible companions with almost no characterization each for a lot of them. BG2 had fewer, with more characterization. And then Torment had very few, but with a lot. I guess he's aiming at something maybe closer to Torment than BG2? And yeah, Torment is the best RPG, but I like that the BG games give you more choices. I actually found BG2's selection a little limiting; since there were fewer choices than BG1, you couldn't choose quite as freely. For instance, unless you're a cleric, you have like one non-Evil choice... I understand why that happened, as having to write for more characters isn't easy, but I don't really want to see that number get even smaller... but I guess it will. Too bad.
SerArthurDayne
Member
It's a flayed bat-rat.
Bats aren't rodents, Dr. Meridian. Yeah, I just quoted Batman Forever.
Town concept looks nice.
Ogre looks super traditional, and tree as club is a bit too much for me personally, but I'm interested to see 3d model.
I really hope they go all out with the bestiary. One of my biggest complaints over the past several years with RPGs is the variety of things to kill is simply pathetic. Nothing is as offensive as Dragon Age and it's like 10 monsters total, but my monster variety has still been very limited.