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Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment (Kickstarter) [Up: Teaser]
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Clever use of stretch goals and drip-feeding of info should help keep some of the momentum going.
- Full mod support will make all modders wet and itching to pledge.
- New areas
- Full realization of after ending gameplay. Player for example will be lord of some place and people will know what he did. Some places will be rebuilding. (something like that was planned for FNV)
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
What about Awesome?
I'd be more than happy with that. I thought DS3 looked good and performed great.
Acidote
Member
And QTEs, lots of mid scene QTEs.
With this and the other RPG games' kickstarters, the renaissance won't just be 2013 and '14. These successes are the groundwork for a new golden age for CRPGs that will last longer than the golden years of the mid '90s.
ChosenPredator
Banned
Wasteland/Shadowrun/ now this i think i am going to cry in joy
now all i need is someone to redeem darksun
now all i need is someone to redeem darksun
Eaty pls
This box has probably best hour to $ ratio in games history.
Last Baron
Member
It'll be a Randy and the spooky ghost scene everywhere if this game delivers on what it promises. So glad to be a part of it.
And proper Ultima !
MightyHedgehog
Member
I hope so, but I'll limit my scope to what propositions are in front of us now and that should make for, at least, two years of excellent developer-controlled releases. And the golden age of CRPGs was mostly in the 80s, though the mid-90s weren't too shabby.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Ok, I think that site needs to adjust their algorithm a bit, the other day it was trending towards 4millions, but now its trending towards 16millions.
Mid-90s to 2000, imo. It started really falling off post-Deus Ex and Baldur's Gate 2, with the exception of a few notable luminaries, primarily from Obsidian and Troika.
I think the players might cry by the prospect of their favourite genres being neglected by the mainstream industry.
If you had told me 10 years ago that this game industry was going to consist of the same testosterone-filled teenage fantasies over and over again, and genres like the wRPG, RTS, Simulation, etc. would be extinct if not for the fanbase, I'd probably weep.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
There's not enough data yet, but it's not very accurate in general due to how much these can fluxuate. The projection is getting more accurate as they tweak it, but it can still be way off depending on how things go.
Nothing worth mentioning. I'm genuinely interested how this whole 'kickstarter' thing is going to be like in the future.
I'm still firm with my stance I will spend money when I see a good product, not the promise of good product.
It was self funded actually.
Actually it might not have been, I could be remembering incorrectly.
I'm confident Wasteland 2, this game, and Dead State will turn out to be really good. It all depends where your expectations will be I guess. I think it'd be a mistake to expect any of these to come out and be all time classics just because we put so much money into them (the first 2 especially since those got in the millions of dollars range). But I have no doubt they'll all be fun.
1026k nice. 2-4 hours from now it will be funded. From there all depends on OBSIDIAN stretch goals.
BTW what i like most about kickstarter project is that when game is funded every copy sold from day1 is pure profit for them.
There is no 10-100-1000k to reach profit point.
What is more amazing is that 25k fans can fund 1mln. 100k fans 4mln. With kickstarter growing we will probably see in few years projects with 300-700k fans.
And what is in my opinion most important developers will be as other artists, musicians meaning fanbase. Fanbase that can fund your ideas.
BTW what i like most about kickstarter project is that when game is funded every copy sold from day1 is pure profit for them.
There is no 10-100-1000k to reach profit point.
What is more amazing is that 25k fans can fund 1mln. 100k fans 4mln. With kickstarter growing we will probably see in few years projects with 300-700k fans.
And what is in my opinion most important developers will be as other artists, musicians meaning fanbase. Fanbase that can fund your ideas.
Much higher. It's a regular AAA budget as far as i remember. It has been developed for 5 years.
But AAA for an old-school strategy game, right? We are not talking shooter AAA here but I guess we are talking 10 million+ in this case?
Lonesome_Raod
Member
Well I have backed the $20 option despite not having anything to play it on and having not played games on a pc in years. Hopefully other platforms will get announced if it does really well and if not at least I backed a worthy cause.
Not a clue on the exact amount, but I'm sure it's higher than Double Fine/inXile KS. It's a multiplatform game with a considerable marketing effort behind it.
Four years * 60 Firaxis employees. Or, as put by the lead design:
Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-06-firaxis-xcom-is-a-very-very-big-budget-gameEurogamer said:
120 people over two years, a pretty standard AAA development setup, would be about the same cost. CoD4 for example was about the same amount of time and people if you halve the years and double the staff count. I would guess XCOM is in the $20-$25+ million range in development costs.
Full 3D engine. 3 platforms. I guess 7-12 millions sounds reasonable.
Kickstarter will never replace traditional publishers but it will allow niche projects to continue existing.
Well that was about twice as much as I was thinking and that's not even including marketing and other costs. Damn I am pretty sure there goes any chance of XCOM 2 now.
I disagree with that. Kickstarter isn't known by many people yet.
I simply don't believe there is less than 200k people all over the world who can pladge for game like this.
Problem is that kickstarter need more media time. If it wasn't for Double Fine i would not know about kickstarter. With each succesful kickstarter it grows.
25k people can fund 1mln. Now think what 500k fans can do (20mln$).
That's a good point. I can see myself buying fewer games in 2013 if at least some of the ones I kickstarted make it and live up to their promise. Especially since these often aren't particularly short games ("cinematic experiences").
Same here. I wonder how much money i will spend next year and 2014 for games where each of those kickstarter RPGs can take 1-3 month playtime. Sure i will buy some games but it won't be like 2011 for me when i bought 2-3 monthly.
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Hurry up 1,100k i want to know whats more is prepared for us !
Minsc
Gold Member
"Trends are not projections. Read more >>"
If you follow the link they do have info on projections (they're the third tab of charts)! Not sure how accurate those are, never really watched them. Seems there's insufficient data currently, but they do give min/max ranges, so maybe they're sorta accurate. Every kickstarter will have unique circumstances of course though.
Hmm, let me think about what I've bought this year (that came out this year) including Kickstarters.
Traditional Publisher Retail:
-Guild Wars 2
-Borderlands 2
-Mass Effect 3
-Diablo 3
-Kid Icarus
Traditional Publisher Digital:
-Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013
-Ys: The Oath In Felghana PC Port
-Ys: Origins PC Port
Self Funded Indie:
-Tower Wars
-Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP PC Port
-Lone Survivor
-Alan Wake PC Port
Kickstarter:
-The Banner Saga
-Double Fine Adventure
-SolForge
-Wasteland 2
-Grim Dawn
-Castle Story
-Shadowrun Returns
-Planetary Annihilation
-Project Eternity
Most Played:
-Dota 2 (f2p)
Very few of my games are coming from the traditional publisher retail model anymore, and basically all of this stuff combined cost significantly less than buying a handful of full retail titles (sans Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2, which I bought at full retail).
FTL is not worth mentioning?You clearly havent played it. One of the biggest surprises of 2012, stupidly fun game.
Edit: A bit OT, but feel free to ask if I should link you some impressions. However, a look into the OT should make it clear that people playing it are enjoying it immensely.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yup. Putting my money where my mouth is, so to speak, is the cake but also dropping dollars from publishers who increasingly don't give a crap about my tastes is the frosting.
FTL is absolutely worth mentioning. It's a great game, not to mention that it's unlike anything else on the market.
Backed. I'm curious why Obsidian and the other well known devs choose to go through kickstarter 5 per cent is a decent chunk of money, if they reach something like 5 million they can pay the salary of 3 or 4 more people. I understand amazon payments is necessary but unless you're an unknown indie I don't see the point of going through the kickstarter website.