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Pitchfork crowns King Kendrick Lamar (Top 50 Albums of 2012)
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Tragicomedy
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Swap Killer Mike with Kendrick and I'm good with the list.
Yeah fuck country music forever pretty much hahahaha. I like the list mostly too. I don't necessarily agree with all the positions, but most of those would make it on my list too.
yay music
Well deserved for Kendrick. Glad to see he made it so far, he totally earned it. I would've liked to have seen Lupe somewhere on the list, but I'm not surprised with it.
Also, fuck the Gambino haters, Royalty was tight as fuck. All this hate is unnecessary.
Also, fuck the Gambino haters, Royalty was tight as fuck. All this hate is unnecessary.
They. Bicep is two Irish dudes. They're awesome. Their Vision of Love EP ranked 4th on my AOTY picks.
Yep, probably my favorite sound of the year too. I'll add Detroit Swindle to the list too. Hadn't checked out those last two on your list either.
This is hip-hop. Love or hate is the way of life. Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. We're still here wondering who let Gambino in.
Sorry I took so long to reply.
So, basically, yeah, I'm aware he's far from the worst and everything. I'll even say he writes pretty well.
However, songs that are meant to mock or critique are all fun and game...only if you understand them that way. Trust me, not everyone does. People who endorse the stuff he sings on "Backstreet Freestyle" for example, well let's just say that's the majority of young rap lovers in their teens, or at least it was back "in my days". And it's such a terrible moral compass.
"The Art of Peer Pressure" is pretty great when you consider its title and what you think it says (I take is as: peer pressure sucks). But again, you'll get so many young and impressionable guys thinking "eh, that's a pretty cool way to hang out".
Finally, an album that promotes religion is indeed "prone to level down any moral grounds" in my book. Religions are rarely the source I'd go for when discussing morals and ethics. An album that's leaning that heavily in the same codes used by the same party it tries to critique seems like a waste to me. I'm aware that this is a theme-based record, with a story that goes through it from start to end and represents changes, and preaches getting out of the mentality described above. But again, my concern is how it will be listened to and by whom. You'll get songs like "backstreet freestyle" shared on high-schooler iPhones in a heartbeat and the moral of the story will go completely unnoticed.
But you guys may be absolutely right. There's a good chance I'm not "getting it" because I don't have the culture needed for that. In which case, that's really fine and really well done. It's just not my cup of tea. And my first post was meant to be dickish and stereotyped, so I deserve this
Well, that's sort of my point actually.
ThanksVision
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That's a plus for me, lol.
Gotta disagree with ya. 2011 had a handful of fantastic releases. 2012 has dozens and dozens of GOOD releases. Only a few I considered monumental. But there seems to be something for everyone this year.
Well, half of the sites you just listed haven't released their year end lists. I suppose they all will look the same if you just make them up.
I've only heard a handful of the albums on this list (Shields, Swing Lo Magellan, Bloom) and liked them all to various degrees, so I'll definitely have to give some of the top ones a listen. I'm not that hopeful as far as rap tastes go, as I still haven't forgiven them for giving some Lil' Wayne club nonsense a higher score than the Talib album that came out the same year. So I'll skeptically listen to Kendrick Lamar.
It's a good album. If you like hip-hop you'll probably enjoy it, I think.
GKMC is fantastic. Its not just PF that thinks so.
FelixOrion
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Finally gave GKMC a listen.
I don't know. I just don't hear anything really stellar from it. It's not bad but I don't think I'd go back and listen to it again. It's just kinda 'meh' for me.
And yes, I know "It's a story," but that really doesn't save it much, in my eyes. A story in an album should be that icing on the cake that should take a great album some where greater, but this was a story in a rather mediocre album and it can't stand on story alone.
I don't know. I just don't hear anything really stellar from it. It's not bad but I don't think I'd go back and listen to it again. It's just kinda 'meh' for me.
And yes, I know "It's a story," but that really doesn't save it much, in my eyes. A story in an album should be that icing on the cake that should take a great album some where greater, but this was a story in a rather mediocre album and it can't stand on story alone.
IrishNinja
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All of the sites I mentioned have released their best of 2012's already, so I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Good dig though, bro.
Do you realize your argument is similar to the "videogames are responsible for the mass shootings" argument? Think about that.
BTW, I sure hope that when people praise The Godfather or Goodfellas or Pulp Fiction you go on the same rant.
But you guys may be absolutely right. There's a good chance I'm not "getting it" because I don't have the culture needed for that. In which case, that's really fine and really well done. It's just not my cup of tea. And my first post was meant to be dickish and stereotyped, so I deserve this
That's cool. Just pick your targets better, otherwise you look foolish.
You may be right. I however think there is a difference between what videogames enable you to "live" and the lifestyle glamourised by a whole ton of rap music, video clips and so on since the late 80s. Both are equally immoral, that doesn't mean they are responsible for the shootings or the general douchyness of teenagers with baggy pants. I don't believe in such a direct correlation, people aren't that simple.
I just dislike the general casualness about both. And I'm standing my ground, yes M.A.A.D city isn't a gangbanging record, yes its second part is exactly the opposite, but I'm still worried "concept records" such as these won't have the impact they are meant to have when music consumption is what it is now. And the effect "gansta rap" culture and MTV culture have had on youth (by their own confession) is really frightening where I come from.
And nope, I've never went on a rant about those movies. Again, I'm aware I might not have the cultural background needed to know how people will appreciate rap music and its often failing moral standards. I do however have the cultural background needed to appreciate movies and their effects. Go figure, I might even not be a complete piece of crap.
Well that fine by me if I learn things in the process. For example I've learned that it was ok to associate a critique of morals in rap music with scapegoating videogames in relation to shootings. Wink wink.
HAHHAHA
No way.
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