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PlayStation 4 Pro |Launch Thread| PS4 Reloaded
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the_batman
Banned
can't believe i forgot to transfer PT over with all my other games.. at least it's still on the PS4.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Download it again via a proxy there are lots of guides out there on how to do it.
McMoneyman
Member
Wrong thread maybe, but what do you guys recommend on Final Fantasy XV? High or Low?
fastballspecial
Member
I didn't notice much of a difference performance-wise between the two so im playing it on high. The environments are a little more full and lush.
the_batman
Banned
i'm waiting on the supposed patch that's supposed to come out this month that will improve performance on the Pro.
It's stuttery when panning on High at the moment due to frame pacing... so I'm playing on Lite and taking the hit in IQ.
This Digital Foundry video should be useful for you.
How to Set-Up HDR For Samsung 2016 4K TVs [PS4 Pro/Xbox One S/PS4/PC]
Yesterday I had my first problem since owning my PS4 PRO and a Samsung 6300 4K TV, when I turn on the PS4, the TV and my receiver, I can hear the PS4 on in the background but the TV was telling me that there was not a signal through the HDMI 1 port. I turned off the PS4, disconnected and re-connected the HDMI cable and all was working fine again. Anyone ran through this problem before? By the way, the PS4 is connected directly to the TV and I'm using the optical audio from the PS4 through the receiver, since the receiver doesn't support 4K.
So if the console is set to output video at 4K but the game content is still 900p then the PS4 will scale the 900p res to 4K (not the TV)?
I have the same TV and never had that problem ( and I hope it'll stay that way).
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
Yes. Basic upscaling.
this...never even occured to me.
i'm guessing my reciever won't support 4k either given the fact it's about 5 years old, which is going to make setting up the pro a bit more annoying then i wanted it to be *le sigh*
EDIT:
then again, i don't have a 4k TV. does the HDMI and receiver still need to support 4k to allow for downsampling? i'm guessing it does?
at the moment i have all my systems connected to my receiver via HDMI, and then that connects to my TV. will my PS4 Pro work with that set up if the receiver doesn't support 4k, even though i'm going to be using a 1080p TV? or will i have to connect the PS4 direct to the TV and run an optical from the PS4 to the receiver? i want to know if i should order an optical cable.
cheers
If you have a 1080p TV you shouldn't have a problem of passing the signal through your receiver, that's how I had it setup before upgrading my TV to a 4K and it worked great with my current receiver. Only if you upgrade to a 4K TV is when you need to upgrade your receiver or look for another audio solution like myself without upgrading the receiver.
so i'd still get the benefits of supersampling using my old receiver? if so that's great. less hassle. tbh it's the connecting/ disconnecting of stuff from my current set up that usually puts me off upgrading/buying new consoles in the first place. the easier this all turns out, the better.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Got a Pro as an early Christmas present this weekend. I've only tried Titanfall 2 but my goodness, so crisp and smooth. I was wondering if I would notice the difference but it was very obvious to me as soon as I booted up the game. Playing on a 50" 1080p Panasonic Plasma.
Looking forward to trying some other games out soon.
Looking forward to trying some other games out soon.
With supersampling the higher resolution image business is all happening on the PS4 Pro, the image that the Pro sends out to you if you're using a 1080p panel is a 1080p image. The issues that you appear to be expecting would only potentially be an issue if you had a 1080p HDR compatible panel but, you don't, because there aren't any...yet.
For you, and me, the setup would the same for a PS4 Pro as it would for a base PS4 because we both have 1080p panels. The only time we would have to think about the 4K stuff is if it's a game that has different Pro rendering options, like Tomb Raider, but those options only apply to your rendering preferences because when it's outputting an image it's still going to be a 1080p image that it's outputting.
You don't need to think about rendering at all, apart from when there are rendering options in a game that and you ma prefer one of another. You're interested in output options which which will always be 1080p even if you've selected a 4K rendering option.
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Deleted member 752119
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I decided to upgrade despite long having plans to skip it since I won't get a 4K/HDR TV anytime soon. My near launch PS4 was starting to have some crash issues, and had gotten much louder. FFXV really kicked the noise level up even more than UC4 did. Decided I might as well trade it in and upgrade before it dies and I'm left in the cold. Plus screen shots/videos of a lot of games on 1080p TVs were pretty impressive.
Doing the data transfer now. Says 11 hours for a tad under 500GB, hope that's wrong. Did it first with both just plugged into router, canceled and did the plug them to each other with one Ethernet cable and still saying 11 hours. I have some work to do for a few hours, hopefully it will be done by then so I can play more FFXV.
Doing the data transfer now. Says 11 hours for a tad under 500GB, hope that's wrong. Did it first with both just plugged into router, canceled and did the plug them to each other with one Ethernet cable and still saying 11 hours. I have some work to do for a few hours, hopefully it will be done by then so I can play more FFXV.
Troubleshooting assistance please!
I'm attempting to initiate the data transfer from my OG PS4 to my new Pro. The Pro can't find the PS4. "No PS4 found" is the error.
Situation:
- I'm only signed into PSN on my new Pro; I'm not signed into PSN at all on my OG. That should be fine, right?
- I'm signed into my OG locally as a new generic 'User1'; also, should be fine?
- Both systems are connected together via a LAN cable (do I need a special kind of cable, or a standard Ethernet cable will do?)
- Both systems are online on the same WiFi network, and both pass Connection Tests successfully
What do?
I'm attempting to initiate the data transfer from my OG PS4 to my new Pro. The Pro can't find the PS4. "No PS4 found" is the error.
Situation:
- I'm only signed into PSN on my new Pro; I'm not signed into PSN at all on my OG. That should be fine, right?
- I'm signed into my OG locally as a new generic 'User1'; also, should be fine?
- Both systems are connected together via a LAN cable (do I need a special kind of cable, or a standard Ethernet cable will do?)
- Both systems are online on the same WiFi network, and both pass Connection Tests successfully
What do?
Last Guardian, Last of Us (after patch 1.08) and Dishonored 2 have not supersampling on a 1080p TV. Is this probably a new trend or Sony's directive? Who knows.
Just a reminder, because I read a lot of people (even in the last posts) who are buying PRO for supersampling. It's not so automatic.
I have buyed the console for this, and now I'm very pissed with the latest updates and news.
Just a reminder, because I read a lot of people (even in the last posts) who are buying PRO for supersampling. It's not so automatic.
I have buyed the console for this, and now I'm very pissed with the latest updates and news.
Troubleshooting assistance please!
I'm attempting to initiate the data transfer from my OG PS4 to my new Pro. The Pro can't find the PS4. "No PS4 found" is the error.
Situation:
- I'm only signed into PSN on my new Pro; I'm not signed into PSN at all on my OG. That should be fine, right?
- I'm signed into my OG locally as a new generic 'User1'; also, should be fine?
- Both systems are connected together via a LAN cable (do I need a special kind of cable, or a standard Ethernet cable will do?)
- Both systems are online on the same WiFi network, and both pass Connection Tests successfully
What do?
Pretty sure you should be logged in on both.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Damn. Just checked the data transfer and it's still and 9 hours with only 78gb out of 476 completed.
Guess it will be PC gaming today. 😀
Guess it will be PC gaming today. 😀
Cancel, make sure 1gbit is supported in the whole chain and you will be done in not even an hour.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Got it at launch. Still no code in Notifications.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
I just have them hooked to each other with an Ethernet cable. Don't think I have anything but regular cat 5 cables here so not sure what else I'd need. In any case, not willing to run out and get something and have plenty to play on PC so playing more FFXV can wait until later tonight or tomorrow. 😀
Not possible. As soon as you sign into PSN on one it boots you on the other.
Anyway, I decided to try connecting both systems to my router via LAN, instead of directly to each other. Worked right away. Weird.
Huh, didn't know that! I backed up my OG to a external and then restored the Pro from there, since I switched the upgraded SSHD I had in my OG to the Pro.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
To do it the other way you just needed the original PS4 on and signed in and then sign in in the new one and the transfer option should have came up and found the old one etc.
It is a requirement going forward. That said there is no mandate on how well/much it's supported.
Marty Chinn
Member
That's way slow. Try a different cable. I did 1.3TB in four hours.
Audioboxer
Member
Hot damn. I picked up Ratchet and Clank today. Just starting playing it now. Looks absolutely amazing on the Pro.
HDR seems to turn to on by default. I don't seem to have a way to turn it off. Just wanted to see if I could flick between on and off to see differences.
HDR seems to turn to on by default. I don't seem to have a way to turn it off. Just wanted to see if I could flick between on and off to see differences.
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Deleted member 752119
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It's over 100 GB through now, so I'll just let it finish. Don't want to lose all that progress if other cables I have are just as old/slow. Still at 8 hours remaining, so definitely must be an old cable or something. Odd as the cable I was using was between the Tivo and the router (just unplugged temporarily to do the transfer), and the that's TiVo mini in another room via a 50ft Ethernet cable also hooked up to the router streams just fine so I'd think that cable was up to snuff speed wise.
I'm was getting a little burnt out on FFXV anyway after dumping 15 hours into it the past couple of days so I could stand getting back to Inside on PC anyway. Getting ready to fire that up now that I'm done working.
Same thing with Mantis Burn Racing.
You can always disable HDR from the Pro for comparisons, but an in-game switch would be easier.
Well, wow guys, I'm a huge believer now. Purchase totally vindicated. I was already impressed that the damn PS4 UI/Menus looked more gorgeous in 4K, but then I actually went in and turned HDR/RGB on, and booted up FFXV. Jesus Christ, what a huge fucking difference. The screen is practically luminescent and exceptionally vibrant. I'd seen a couple of UHD/HDR movies on my set (which came with the TV) so I knew what to expect, but was still blown away.
Like, I can't even describe how much I'm impressed, after thinking that the difference was just going to be incremental. FFXV on this 65" 4KTV on an OG PS4 actually looked downright ugly at times. The jaggies, the muted colours, the iffy frame rate. It's so gorgeous now. I knew I was wasting the potential of this TV. So glad I bought the Pro. Horizon's gonna be gorgeous.
I tried this, but the Pro denied me signing in - said I was signed in already on another PS4.
Like, I can't even describe how much I'm impressed, after thinking that the difference was just going to be incremental. FFXV on this 65" 4KTV on an OG PS4 actually looked downright ugly at times. The jaggies, the muted colours, the iffy frame rate. It's so gorgeous now. I knew I was wasting the potential of this TV. So glad I bought the Pro. Horizon's gonna be gorgeous.
I tried this, but the Pro denied me signing in - said I was signed in already on another PS4.
You should be able to find out the speed of your cables as they should all carry a CATegory rating on them, like this one does.
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[IMG]http://www.cableorganizer.com/images/igus/pur-ethernet-cable/images/01-chainflex-cat5e-pur-ethernet-cable.jpg[/IMG]The speed of your transfer suggests that you may actually be using an older Cat 3 cable which is really slow. If you were using a higher rated cable, such as Cat 5e or Cat 6 then the maximum speeds are up to 100x what you'd get on a Cat 3 cable.
If you are actually using a standard Cat 5, as you say, then even that would be 10x the speed of Cat 3 cable but it's still only 10% of the maximum speed on higher rated cables.
I suppose it's one of those live and learn things for you, at least you'll know to check next time. I do keep mentioning the higher rated Ethernet cables on here for people doing this but I suppose it just gets lost under all the Pro info on here.
Jakartalado
Member
Gezzzzz....
Star Wars Battlefront looks really rough on Pro at 4K.
I know it's not a Pro Enhanced Game (I hope to see a pro patch with the VR MISSION) but I don't remember the game had so much aliasing.
Is there a way to balance the 900p jagged mess at 4K on the Samsung TV? Or just set the PS4 output to 1080p should do?
Star Wars Battlefront looks really rough on Pro at 4K.
I know it's not a Pro Enhanced Game (I hope to see a pro patch with the VR MISSION) but I don't remember the game had so much aliasing.
Is there a way to balance the 900p jagged mess at 4K on the Samsung TV? Or just set the PS4 output to 1080p should do?
Nostremitus
Member
Well... you aren't getting HDR and RGB at the same time. HDMI2.0 only supports 8bit RGB, HDR is 10bit. So, in HDR mode, you are using 4:2:0 compression in order to fit 10bit color into the bandwidth instead of RGB's 4:4:4.
Oh...well it still looks beautiful. I just followed the general advice to flip video output to RGB and then put HDR on, and didn't get any errors, haha.
The consensus is to go with HDR on for sure, yeah?
Nostremitus
Member
Depends on the game really, I hear some games have poor HDR utilization and regular RGB ends up looking better.
Not sure about Final Fantasy XV, though...
But yeah, PS4 Pro only does HDR through YUV 4:2:0. That's also the same settings UHD BluRay players use for it. HDMI2.0 just can't do any better.
Random question since I've been noticing a lot more network issues since getting a Pro at launch, and I don't just mean US PSN d/l speeds being shit. I'm wired with 135 down but like PS Vue won't stay in high HD quality consistently (PC does), things like Overwatch will bitch about my connection at various times, and I've had patch downloads just flat out stop at 50%.
When screwing around the ethernet cables, I noticed that even when fully plugged into the Pro, you would wiggle it around A LOT. Almost like the network card wasn't fully attached to the board.
Am I just paranoid and this is all tied to PSN sucking every once in a while, or is there a possibility there's something wrong with my Pro? Man, I really don't want to have to go through the hdd swapping and shit again to try and get an exchange from Gamestop (if that's even possible).
When screwing around the ethernet cables, I noticed that even when fully plugged into the Pro, you would wiggle it around A LOT. Almost like the network card wasn't fully attached to the board.
Am I just paranoid and this is all tied to PSN sucking every once in a while, or is there a possibility there's something wrong with my Pro? Man, I really don't want to have to go through the hdd swapping and shit again to try and get an exchange from Gamestop (if that's even possible).
MAX PAYMENT
Member
It doesn't look THAT bad.
HDR is typically much better, yes, but I would reccomend setting your TV video levels and the Pro to video output to all auto.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
No.
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 just came out a couple days ago with no Pro support.
The difference is huge on a projector. Too bad there's a growing trend of keeping games locked at 1080p native on 1080p sets.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
This is incorrect, PS4 Pro also supports 12bpc YUV422 output.
Guardian Monkey
Member
How