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Playstation 5 Pro reveal youtube video has more than 150k dislikes right now

Sony would have been better off by not doing a pro model at all. Forget the r&d costs, manufacturing, shipping, marketing, etc. and just look at all the negative PR they're getting. Back-to-back fails with this and Concord.

If we get to Christmas Day and there's shelves full of PS5 Pros at my downtown Target I'm going to crack 😂.

This has gotta be up there as one of the most useless/pointless/nobodyaskedforthis devices of all time.
 
GAF has no chill

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kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Yep, $100 more than their regular one they're currently selling at a loss.

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But "close to twice as powerful" and 2TB.

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Still selling a four year old console at a loss when it has a higher price tag than when it launched ...? It used to be that consoles would get substantially cheaper to make the longer they were on the market.
 

Vick

Gold Member
Can someone explain to me why the price is such a problem when it's literally only $100 more than the 2TB Xbox Series X?
GAF hysteria is the best hysteria.

Still selling a four year old console at a loss when it has a higher price tag than when it launched ...? It used to be that consoles would get substantially cheaper to make the longer they were on the market.
They did start making a profit at one point, but then again at a loss.

World's pretty messed up atm.

this is great to see. restores my faith in the PS fanbase.
I still don't get you though.
You're a graphics whore, constantly bitching about every aspect of modes on Consoles in an hardcore anal manner way past the point of obsession, and regularly spend thousands on PC as well.

What did you want from PS5 Pro exactly? A cheaper one?
You're not satisfied with the promise of Fidelity Modes at 60fps?
 
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With the costs remaining the same Sony aren't going to magically cut the standard PS5 to $300 when releasing the Pro. Unfortunately it was always going to be priced stacked, Standard PS5 remains around $500, this Pro around $700. I just don't get the outrage. PS5 standard has remained expensive like everything else.

Adding a disc drive puts the cost up more, they probably have data that the type of buyer isn't buying used games or looking for deals at retailers and it's about 80% digital, they probably need a 2tb drive which is what they went for. Seems people are being unrealistic given the current PS5 price.

PS5 at launch were selling for more, there's enough out there to buy this, which is aimed at the 15-20%.

Normally prices on consoles go down yet we're not seeing this in a post covid inflation period. I don't have a PS5 due to it remaining at a high price, no interest in a $700 one. I've stuck to my GTX 1080 and just laughed at GPU prices and the current PS5 price. The BOM price on consoles means there not much room to maneuver.
 
Incredible! this shows that the $700 price tag is a minor issue and hardly a deterrence to the console fans


38K ain't jack shi*. They want to sell millions of these, not a couple thousand.

If the reception is overly negative then either lower the price or include the disc drive. I'm assuming its too late to bundle in the disc drive at this point, so a price drop of $100 might chill some people out. I'm buying regardless.
 
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LMJ

Member
I love the fact that people seem to miss the "enthusiast console" would target enthusiasts :messenger_grinning_sweat:

That being said fuck Sony selling the stand and drive separately, 699 and that shit should come with, I get it everyone's hurting, but still fuck you sadly typical corporation🖕

I might buy a drive down the road if the Pro goes on sale, but eh might just remain satisfied with my PS5 as well, and I am a weak enthusiast
 
Add an $80 disc drive.

Also Euro price is totally out of whack being about 100 euros overpriced even when considering taxes between US and Euro VAT.
Because the $600 Series X is a terrible deal too. The 1 TB Series X has been available for $400 many times in the last year. Comparing one overpriced console to another overpriced console isn't the way...
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
Price seems fine, doesn't seem like you could get an equivalent PC any cheaper.
Except on PC you have backwards compatibility with whatever you want, emulation, free online and cheaper games.

Oh, and PC components go down in price over time which is exactly the opposite of PS5!
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
GAF hysteria is the best hysteria.


They did start making a profit at one point, but then again at a loss.

World's pretty messed up atm.


I still don't get you though.
You're a graphics whore, constantly bitching about every aspect of modes on Consoles in an hardcore anal manner way past the point of obsession, and regularly spend thousands on PC as well.

What did you want from PS5 Pro exactly? A cheaper one?
You're not satisfied with the promise of Fidelity Modes at 60fps?
I was looking forward to it. You have read my posts in the other thread for months. I even would’ve paid $700 for a disc version. I would’ve bitched about it but still bought it. Not including disc drive is frankly insulting and charging $80 for it basically makes this a $800 console. Not showing any new games for it after skipping e3 is also completely out of touch. It shows that Sony is exactly everything i have been warning you all about, and I’m glad more and more people are starting to see how far this company has fallen.
 

Killjoy-NL

Gold Member
I was looking forward to it. You have read my posts in the other thread for months. I even would’ve paid $700 for a disc version. I would’ve bitched about it but still bought it. Not including disc drive is frankly insulting and charging $80 for it basically makes this a $800 console. Not showing any new games for it after skipping e3 is also completely out of touch. It shows that Sony is exactly everything i have been warning you all about, and I’m glad more and more people are starting to see how far this company has fallen.
Or maybe people still haven't caught up with reality where prices all around are rising because the economy is just shit post-covid.
 
If the PS5 had nearly the same amount of fantastic exclusives (not available on PC) as the PS4 did when the PS4 pro was released (and those games really benefitted from the upgrade), maybe I would think about it.

Now? 0% appeal to me regardless of price. At this price it's just laughable for me.
 

ZehDon

Member
Can someone explain to me why the price is such a problem when it's literally only $100 more than the 2TB Xbox Series X?
Well, let's ignore it being the most expensive PlayStation console ever made. Let's also add in the disc drive and stand, so it's at least actually comparable, and now you have an USD$199.00 price difference to the most expensive competitor SKU, and a USD$299.00 price difference to the base console. And what does that USD$300 difference buy you? A curated list of PS4 games with higher frame rates, it seems. In terms of reveals, marketing, and value propositions, this is one of the worst in recent times. The PS4 Pro made its case pretty well. The PS5 Pro? Not so much.
 
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Ozriel

M$FT
Yep, $100 more than their regular one they're currently selling at a loss.

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But "close to twice as powerful" and 2TB.

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Nobody asked for 2TB standard. Most people would have just moved their added SSD from their base PS5, or picked up a deal at Black Friday sales.
 

Vick

Gold Member
I was looking forward to it. You have read my posts in the other thread for months. I even would’ve paid $700 for a disc version. I would’ve bitched about it but still bought it. Not including disc drive is frankly insulting and charging $80 for it basically makes this a $800 console. Not showing any new games for it after skipping e3 is also completely out of touch. It shows that Sony is exactly everything i have been warning you all about, and I’m glad more and more people are starting to see how far this company has fallen.
Isn't there a showcase next week devoted to new games?
Were they shown here, they would have been buried by the controversy.

About price.. eh, if this thing is really going to give me Quality modes at 60fps I'd gladily pay what they ask. Sucks about the disc drive, no doubt.

Nobody asked for 2TB standard. Most people would have just moved their added SSD from their base PS5, or picked up a deal at Black Friday sales.
Well the push for digital is clear, and under this lens a 2TB obviously makes more sense than an included disc drive.

It sucks for me as I'm a 100% physical dude, but makes sense unfortunately (thanks to all you digital fuckers).
 

Ozriel

M$FT
I think we’re getting PS Portal reveal all over again. Are people liking the price? No, of course not. Pro is expensive.

Will people upgrade? Yeah, most definitely. Pro will be in constant backorder for months regardless of YouTube dislikes. Even more so close to GTA VI launch.

Sony made a limited number of units for the Portal, since they weren’t sure of the market response.

They’ll have much bigger expectations for the PS5 Pro. The volume will be there.

Chance of this being ‘backordered for months’ is vanishingly slim. This isn’t 2020. They’ve most certainly secured the chips they need.

I’ll be preordering and hopefully getting mine by Nov 7th, but it’s very likely the smart play for some would be to expect a Black Friday bundle with a game by late November, similar to the PS5 Slim last year
 

FunkMiller

Member
Can someone explain to me why the price is such a problem when it's literally only $100 more than the 2TB Xbox Series X?

The value proposition is nowhere near good enough for that price. Minimal upgrades, zero games that require it to run... its a largely pointless piece of kit, given where we are in the generation.

No one would be complaining if it provided a major boost to the gaming experience.

It fucking doesn't. At all.
 

Vick

Gold Member
The value proposition is nowhere near good enough for that price. Minimal upgrades, zero games that require it to run... its a largely pointless piece of kit, given where we are in the generation.

No one would be complaining if it provided a major boost to the gaming experience.

It fucking doesn't. At all.
How isn't a promised 30fps to 60fps Fidelity Mode not a major boost though?

I've been told multiple times here it would have been impossible and extremely foolish to hope for.
 

FunkMiller

Member
How isn't a promised 30fps to 60fps Fidelity Mode not a major boost though?

I've been told multiple times here it would have been impossible and extremely foolish to hope for.

Because (as evidenced by the promo video) the step up in fidelity is actually hardly noticeable.
 

Natsuko

Member
Have I missed something? Are likes purchases now? I doubt that the thing will sell very much at that price. It's not very easy to find people who are still enthusiastic after the announcement. 900 Euro with drive and stand here. I'm still looking for people from my bubble who are planning to buy a Pro. So far I've only read no thanks.
 

Cakeboxer

Member
PS4 Pro was around 14-16% of the PS4 userbase so I think it will be slightly understocked regardless.
You have to compare that with 2017-2020 when both consoles were out. Don't know the numbers, but should be >25%. I would be surprised if the PS5 Pro hits 10%.
 
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ShaiKhulud1989

Gold Member
How isn't a promised 30fps to 60fps Fidelity Mode not a major boost though?
Along with 2tb and wi-fi 7.

It's on the expensive side, yes, but nowhere near 'The value proposition is nowhere near good enough for that price'. Hell, Rebirth in native res without shitty FSR is enough value proposition for me, honestly.
but should be >25%.
It never was near that number. As entrhusiast forum we're kinda skewed and we're buying better kits sooner than later, but broad consumer was more than happy with his base PS4 slim and a lot of people are still happy with it.
 
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