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Playstation 5 Pro reveal youtube video has more than 150k dislikes right now

Killjoy-NL

Gold Member
Even taking inflation into account as well as the weaker Euro it would come to €539, not €799. Sure you can argue it’s more expensive due to being a more premium product, but an increase of €260?
What would come to €539? Standard PS5 or PS5 Pro, because they're not the same product.

Besides, I didn't deny the possibility that it might be overpriced. I'm saying it isn't surprising to see (much) higher prices and that if it bothers people, they should just not buy it.
 

Zathalus

Member
What would come to €539? Standard PS5 or PS5 Pro, because they're not the same product.

Besides, I didn't deny the possibility that it might be overpriced. I'm saying it isn't surprising to see (much) higher prices and that if it bothers people, they should just not buy it.
The standard PS5 digital would be €539 today at most if you take inflation and the weaker Euro into account. But that price completely ignores the fact that component prices are way lower compared to 2020 and is thus way cheaper to manufacture. The Pro is a significant premium in price once you take those factors into account.

So yes, the Pro is absolutely overpriced for what it is.
 

FeralEcho

Member
that wont happen or change anything. also there are people who might dislike and buy it.
People always say this same thing everytime yet look at the PS3 store still standing after we complained....Look at Concord after we complained,we are literally dancing on its grave not even a month after launch. Things can change but people are wired to be sheep and accept what their corporate overlords tell them. No wonder all these companies got so greedy.
 

Killjoy-NL

Gold Member
The standard PS5 digital would be €539 today at most if you take inflation and the weaker Euro into account. But that price completely ignores the fact that component prices are way lower compared to 2020 and is thus way cheaper to manufacture. The Pro is a significant premium in price once you take those factors into account.

So yes, the Pro is absolutely overpriced for what it is.
If you could provide a complete breakdown of components and production cost, I'd more than happy to read it.

But even so, it is what it is. And even though I was honestly expecting €600-€650, I'm going to buy it anyway because I want it.

Those who don't agree with the price should just ignore the Pro, because they won't miss out on anything.
 

Vick

Gold Member
But that price completely ignores the fact that component prices are way lower compared to 2020 and is thus way cheaper to manufacture. The Pro is a significant premium in price once you take those factors into account.

So yes, the Pro is absolutely overpriced for what it is.
But they're currently selling PS5 at a loss apparently, so this can't be true.

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nowhat

Member
Also Euro price is totally out of whack being about 100 euros overpriced even when considering taxes between US and Euro VAT.
This. Thiiiiiiis. It's not that I couldn't afford it (hell, I'm like one of the dozen people that got a PSVR 2). But I have a hard time justifying it. If/when the price drops, I'll probably upgrade.

Or maybe even wait for PS6. Knowing myself though, that may not be the case. I'm weak.
 
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EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
Didn't one of those COD titles have some massive amount of dislikes and the game still moved millions of units? lol

Dislikes, petitions, crying on social media...seems to always be some recipe to incoming cope or something. So, if you are broke or never going to buy it, that dislike means pretty much nothing tbh.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Never knew who this guy was till I checked him out.

For those of you who didnt watch it, it is 100% spot on. And more importantly, watch the 5:00 mark I linked below in that vid. LOL



100% spot on? Really? I watched the link for about 10 secs longer than needed from the time-stamp and Charlie's talkiing about Sony's "weird hate-boner" for FROM soft"? Wut?

C'mon dude, its classic Youtuber silly hyperbole!
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
But they're currently selling PS5 at a loss apparently, so this can't be true.

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I remember when people believed the one Sony comment and used it for like 2 years saying PS5 made sony a profit on each sold. The reality is its been losing money since its launch. This gen has been a shit show.
 
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Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
I'd also point out that in the PC space, paying an extra $300 for a GPU that effectively doubles your expected framerate would be considered a bargain! Oh and throws in an extra Tb of SSd storage as a bonus.

Pretty insulting example of PC bro double-standards if you ask me.
 

Fabieter

Member
I'd also point out that in the PC space, paying an extra $300 for a GPU that effectively doubles your expected framerate would be considered a bargain! Oh and throws in an extra Tb of SSd storage as a bonus.

Pretty insulting example of PC bro double-standards if you ask me.

Pc comes with a pretty significantly bunch of benefits over console. Console makers don't want to even lose affordability to PC.
 
I'd also point out that in the PC space, paying an extra $300 for a GPU that effectively doubles your expected framerate would be considered a bargain! Oh and throws in an extra Tb of SSd storage as a bonus.

Pretty insulting example of PC bro double-standards if you ask me.
Doubling frame rate without frame gen dlss etc will require you to go 2 tiers higher for GPU.

PS5 pro will cannot do it without using PSSR with just meager 45% increase in GPU power.
 

Sybrix

Gold Member
The price is way too high.

You can get a PC that performs far better for that price and have additional advantage of upgrading at a later date and have a PC library, far cheaper games, gamepass, Steam, along with Playstation exclusives also lol.
 
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FewRope

Member
The device its going to sold out the moment the preorders went live, the dislikes dont matter

Sony knows this and they do what they want. I wish I was wrong, but it is what it is
 
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Embearded

Member
The price is way too high.

You can get a PC that performs far better for that price and have additional advantage of upgrading at a later date and have a PC library, far cheaper games, gamepass, Steam, along with Playstation exclusives also lol.

No you can't.
You cannot buy new PC components and make a machine that will be able to play the games they showed that also exist on PC at the same image quality and framerate with 800€.
 

Zathalus

Member
If you could provide a complete breakdown of components and production cost, I'd more than happy to read it.

But even so, it is what it is. And even though I was honestly expecting €600-€650, I'm going to buy it anyway because I want it.

Those who don't agree with the price should just ignore the Pro, because they won't miss out on anything.

This is not correct.

But they're currently selling PS5 at a loss apparently, so this can't be true.

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Do you guys seriously believe components haven’t become cheaper? Despite such price drops being very visible in the PC space with SSDs and memory (GDDR6 is a fifth of the price vs 2020) being way cheaper vs what you would pay in 2020? Is Sony immune to these price changes? How is Apple and Nvidia of all people able to offer substantially faster products today vs those same products in 2020 and all for the same price?
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Doubling frame rate without frame gen dlss etc will require you to go 2 tiers higher for GPU.

PS5 pro will cannot do it without using PSSR with just meager 45% increase in GPU power.

People pay Nvidia's ridiculous price tax versus AMD mainly for access to DLSS... So don't make out that upscaling capability has no market value!
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
Maybe it doesn't, but I don't care tbh.

And like I said, those who think it's too expensive are free to skip it.
It's not a necessity.
It for sure doesn't. And if you don't care, why arguing in the first place or stating "muh enthusiast" .

But don't come crying when the PS6 is 800 dollar without disk reader.
 

Killjoy-NL

Gold Member
It for sure doesn't. And if you don't care, why arguing in the first place or stating "muh enthusiast" .

But don't come crying when the PS6 is 800 dollar without disk reader
Why are you arguing if you have no interest in PS5 Pro?

Why are you always crying about prices anyway? Maybe you should find a different hobby, since you were even crying over €40.

It's a completely pointless product for enthusiasts and a higher price was expected.
Sure, the price is higher than I hoped for, but I'm willing to buy it for €800 all the same. So in that light, Idc about the price.
 
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Bania Gold

Neo Member
The price is the price.

If you don't buy it, don't buy it.

It's not for everyone.

There is affordable gaming and it's called the PS5.

People pay $1499 for single GPUs, $1000+ for phones every 12 months.

$700 is less than a week's wage for a half decent job.

I'm not sure what some people were expecting.

'They will announce Bloodborne 2 packed in with a $499 Pro for sure. I deserve that. I am entitled to that.'
 
Way to go Sony, screw yourself without any competition in sight.

This is literally Microsoft/Xbox levels of self harm/suicide/shooting themselves in the foot.

Listen, the value it's just not there, that's what most people are bitching about, Pro + 120€ disc drive in Euro land = 920€ - for a mid-gen refresh...

This is what having no competition looks like, arrogant Sony® has been back for a few years now due to their dominance (raising the price of the base consoles/200+ pro controller which has abysmal battery life/raising the PS plus sub prices/having to shell out additional money for a vertical stand of all things/raising the price of the basic controller and now this...

But sure, it's all about the "brokies"/poor people /peons not being able to afford things, what a joke (and a shame).
 
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People pay Nvidia's ridiculous price tax versus AMD mainly for access to DLSS... So don't make out that upscaling capability has no market value!
Upscaling muddies value prepositions.

For $300 you can double your frame rate in pc land as well using upscaling.

Not to mention PSSR upscaling quality is yet to be proven.
 

ProtoByte

Weeb Underling
Do you guys seriously believe components haven’t become cheaper? Despite such price drops being very visible in the PC space with SSDs and memory (GDDR6 is a fifth of the price vs 2020) being way cheaper vs what you would pay in 2020? Is Sony immune to these price changes? How is Apple and Nvidia of all people able to offer substantially faster products today vs those same products in 2020 and all for the same price?
You said "way" cheaper. That is not the case. Certainly not to the point that Sony is actually making money on the base PS5, which isn't up for dispute considering we have the IR documentation to prove it.

I also know for a fact that chip wafers are more expensive than they were when the PS5 first released. I couldn't break down the exact costs for PS, and I doubt you could either.

As for your Apple and Nvidia examples, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Because neither of those brands have been giving you substantially more for the same price, neither in comparison to PS hardware, or in comparison to previous iterations of their own.
 
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Zathalus

Member
You said "way" cheaper. That is not the case. Certainly not to the point that Sony is actually making money on the base PS5, which isn't up for dispute considering we have the IR documentation to prove it.

I also know for a fact that chip wafers are more expensive than they were when the PS5 first released. I couldn't break down the exact costs for PS, and I doubt you could either.

As for your Apple and Nvidia examples, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Because neither of those brands have been giving you substantially more for the same price, neither in comparison to PS hardware, or in comparison to previous iterations of their own.
4 years ago Nvidia released the 3070 for $499 with 8GB of VRAM, today you can get a 4070 for $549 with 12GB of far faster VRAM and a GPU that is 25% faster. 4 years ago Apple launched the iPhone 12 Pro for $999, they just announced the iPhone 16 Pro now for $999. It also has more RAM, substantially faster processor and GPU on the most cutting edge node from TSMC, and further improvements across the board. AMD launched the 6900XT in 2020 for $999 The 7900XTX launched for $999 almost two years ago and can be found for around $899 today. It offered 50% more and faster VRAM, and a 50% faster GPU.

Sony is absolutely not offering any value addition for this console, and it is absolutely overpriced. Hence the overwhelming negative feedback it is getting.
 

Likou

Banned
Sony should do the Concord strategy on this. Just ignore opinions, attack the public, call them names, say that the console is not for them. It's how modern marketing acts and it's working greatly as we can see.
 

Kupfer

Member
The price is the price.

If you don't buy it, don't buy it.

It's not for everyone.

There is affordable gaming and it's called the PS5.

People pay $1499 for single GPUs, $1000+ for phones every 12 months.

$700 is less than a week's wage for a half decent job.

I'm not sure what some people were expecting.

'They will announce Bloodborne 2 packed in with a $499 Pro for sure. I deserve that. I am entitled to that.'
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Just for a quick comparison

PS3 - 600 € in 2007 - 891 € in 2024
PS4 - 400 € in 2013 - 525 € in 2024
PS4 Pro - 399€ in 2016 - 493€ in 2024
PS5 - 500 € in 2020 - 593 € in 2024
PS5 Pro in 2024 - 800 €/ 920 € with disc drive

The PlayStation 3 (PS3) had a challenging start at launch, with mixed sales due to several factors:
  1. High Price: The PS3 was initially priced at $499 for the 20GB model and $599 for the 60GB model, which was considered expensive at the time [...]
Despite these challenges, the PS3's sales gradually picked up in the following years, especially after price cuts [...]

I see parallels and don't know what should have changed in the minds of customers, especially since you don't depend on the Pro to play PS5 games, unlike at the launch of the PS3. I see little incentive to buy.
 

Embearded

Member
I'll only be getting a PS5 for GTA VI, if there isnt a GTAVI specifc benefit with the PS5 Pro, then ill grab a 2nd hand PS5.

Yeah well in the end whatever suits you.
All i meant is that maybe use both devices in second hand condition when you compare them.

I see people stating that about PC being cheaper or better at that price but that's not true, it just isn't.
 
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