Muddy
Member
The staff at Haven Studios are anything but unproven.
Same applies to Deviation Games which will probably be acquired too.
Suggest you do your research on who works there.
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PlayStation acquires Haven, the new studio led by Jade Raymond
The staff at Haven Studios are anything but unproven.
Same applies to Deviation Games which will probably be acquired too.
Suggest you do your research on who works there.
kyussman
Member
Proven staff doesn't mean much as far as I'm concernered,look at what's going on at the The Initivite right now,didn't they hire a lot of talented people.I'm just saying Sony are obviously feeling the pressure from Microsofts aquisitions.....this is a move they simply would not have made a few years ago.
kuncol02
Banned
Every time someone attributes success of Assassins Creed to her small kitten dies.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
That would mean they had acquired a bad studio. They bought something you don't even know what it is.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
The fact that Sony bought them before they even shipped their first game shows that they have a LOT of confidence in this studio and their vision for their new game.
Sony took literally forever to buy Insomniac. So they aren't the type of publisher to make knee-jerk studio purchases that are of low to limited value. They are very discerning about who and what they buy.
To me this is good news for all PS fans. This game must be very promising.
Sony took literally forever to buy Insomniac. So they aren't the type of publisher to make knee-jerk studio purchases that are of low to limited value. They are very discerning about who and what they buy.
To me this is good news for all PS fans. This game must be very promising.
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yurinka
Member
They are more than proven. Many of them already worked together in AC, Watchdogs or Rainbow Six Siege plus in many other very successful Ubisoft games and many of them also in Motive. Some of them also have worked in places like Eidos Montreal, Rockstar or Insomniac.
You may not like these games I mentioned but they sold way over a dozen million copies per game (not only them, also almost every other AC game, WD2 etc). Which is like 2 or even 3 times of what Insomniac (before Spider-Man) or Kojima games sold.
Being a new, growing studios with no IPs the acquisition must have been pretty cheap but it's a reliable senior team with many people who worked in many very successful games, and their project seems to be promising enough if Sony decided first to make it 2nd party and now to buy them.
Since the start of Haven yes. But the team and the project started at Google, and many of them came from Motive and many of them came from Ubisoft (where they already worked with them) to work on Motive, Google or Haven.
So a big portion of at least the key team was together way before they created Haven, moment where their project already had started. In fact Haven pitched Sony 3 projects they had from Google, and Sony wanted the 3 but Haven decided that as of now they would start with only one of them, their current one. I assume they'll make the other ones later as they keep growing enough.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Did you quote my post by mistake? As you're not disagreeing with my comment.
MaxwellParrish
Member
She isn't a game director, she has never directed a game and she is Haven Studio founder, not game director. You have absolutely no point.
You don't need to attributes her the success of AC to recognize that she worked on it and various other very successuful games
Hezekiah
Banned
Yeah, I mean BluePoint, Housemarque and Bungie don't meet that criteria at all do they
yurinka
Member
To quote doesn't imply to disagree, sometimes it's to expand or provide extra details.
Topher
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Ubisoft put Raymond in charge of building and leading Ubisoft Toronto. Same thing Microsoft hired Darrel Galagher to do for The Initiative. Not exactly a minor accomplishment.
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Mercador
Member
I took her for a booth babe at E3 2004 (or 2005? can't remember). She was giving away t-shirts for Assassin's Creed booth.
Muddy
Member
The Haven staff have worked with each other in the past and decided to create their own studio.
The Initiative on the other hand was compiled by Microsoft.
Huge difference.
Muddy
Member
No that was Microsoft acquiring a ton of studios.
Since that didn’t work out they decided to acquire entire publishers instead.
MasterCornholio
Member
Oh the name of the studio makes sense to me now. Guess they wanted to create a little developer paradise with people that they worked with.
oldergamer
Member
I heard early on that they had investment money to get established, but I can admit when I'm wrong. sony was involved much earlier then i had thought.
oldergamer
Member
Didn't work out? what are you talking about. of course it has worked out. They were publisher of the year.
Muddy
Member
So you're satisfied with Microsofts output after having 20-30 studios in their grasp?
What about 2022? or 2020? 2019?
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Yeah, it's just that you quoted my post alongside another post. And while your reply did agree with what i'd posted it was also a counter-argument to the other poster you were responding to. So it seemed your intent was to argue with the other poster and my post might have got added by mistake.
Not to worry.
Ezquimacore
Banned
without Patrice Désilets she never produced another good game, ever. So this is Sony just buying hype for nothing
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Without Jade Raymond he never directed another good game, ever
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ethomaz
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Ezquimacore
Banned
He actually developed games, something Jade Raymond never did... let's say she was the cute face sell his art. Don't get me wrong, I want her to be successful, but she has been trying for more than a decade and nothing happens. Her studios are always closed and she's always terminated.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There is more to this studio than just her. Lots of established talent there.
Derps just keep focusing on her, because, dudes and gamers.
Ezquimacore
Banned
He tried once and without funding from a big corporation, Ancestor is good for what it is, something you can't say about any project by Jade with all the money from ubisoft and EA and Google... now Sony lol.
ethomaz
Banned
She is already successful you don’t need to want anything.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
What kind of revisionist history is this? Yes she's developed games and yes she's successfully built up and managed studios.
The exception was google which had fuck all to do with her.
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ethomaz
Banned
I’m not sure what you are trying to say?
She delivered good games… and the Google has nothing to do with her… the game was cancelled because well Google failed… I mean Stadia lol
Now the same can’t be said about he and Ancestor lol
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Ezquimacore
Banned
I'm trying to say, I don't expect anything good from this just like her attempts with ubisoft, EA and Google. So sony is just wasting money for a name.
ethomaz
Banned
I have no ideia where people are focusing in support a guys that never did nothing outside ACII that released over a decade ago.
Compared with somebody that worked and successful delivered several games thought the same time.
Ezquimacore
Banned
the last game she produced was Splinter Cell Blacklist, wtf are you talking about.
ethomaz
Banned
But she had good games at Ubisoft.
And Battlefront II issue was the game quality or the MTX issues created by EA greed?
Google killed themselves with Stadia… I mean fund a 1st-party Stadia game to who? Of course they cancelled it.
oldergamer
Member
20 - 30 is an exaggeration. They had 17 or 18 before the Bethesda purchase. Last year they ended on a very strong note, so yeah I was satisfied with the output. I'm also not expecting every studio to release a game in the same year.
They have yet to show everything coming this year, but I see little point in trying to go back to 2020 or 2019. Those years have passed and have no bearing going forward.
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Ezquimacore
Banned
The last 3 games she produced:
Assassin's creed unity
splinter cell blacklist and watch dogs.... smh. real quality there
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
She's not been hands on with games since then you muppet. Looking at a wiki list doesn't tell you a persons career
ethomaz
Banned
I have no ideia what are you talking about.
Watch Dogs is good… received 80 meta.
Assassin’s Creed Unity received 70 due bugs and crash issues but anybody that plays it nowdays thinks it is the best game in the franchise.
Blacklist received 82… good indeed.
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Ezquimacore
Banned
you won't like "Haven" game, pin this comment.
Ezquimacore
Banned
Watch Dogs destroyed the franchise in the first attempt lol wtf are you talking about
Assassin's creed Unity destroyed the franchise until AC origins
and we don't have a splinter cell game since Blacklist, and now we will have a remake of the first game.
You most live in a different dimension where Jade Raymond did all those fantastic stuff after Assassin's creed 2
ethomaz
Banned
No... she was part of team that delivered good games.
I'm in a dimension that these games where not bad like you are saying lol
Neither of them were... to Unity be considered the best in the franchise... and Watch Dogs and Blacklist receiving good scores.
While that Patric something games...
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archangelmorph
Member
I love how some people here are still going on as if Jade’s only celebrated for her looks.
As if no prominent industry figures are elevated purely because of their output.
Counter points:
As if no prominent industry figures are elevated purely because of their output.
Counter points:
Ezquimacore
Banned
definitely a trash taste in games, no other way to say it.
ethomaz
Banned
So you are wrong and now put the blame on tastes lol
It is fine if you don't like a game but don't try to make the game was bad just because you think it was bad.
Look at the scores the game received and the fan community like it or not.
Unity suffered the same issue as Cyberpunk... was launched in a poor state but anybody that follow the AC community know after the fixes it is considered the best AC in the franchise.
The others two games received good scores from everybody.
The games you say are bad are instead good.
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Ezquimacore
Banned
My argument is that there's always some kind of hype around her based on Assassin's Creed 2, a game she produced but didn't develop. Her hype compared to what she did after that is hilarious. And here you're being a weirdo talking about incels and all that crap.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
You weren't even aware she was a developer herself.
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digital_ghost
Gold Member
kuncol02
Banned
She wasn't producer of Battlefront II. She was at this time running Motive Studios which was only making shitty single player campaign of it. They never even made their own game till she left. During her time in EA she was also in charge of Visceral Games which with her in helm was unable to finish their Star Wars game.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Haven't even shown their pedigree with a single game. Not really an L or a W.
FukuDaruma
Member
I don't know about Splinter Cell, but both Assassins Creed Unity and Watch Dogs were release disasters. Raymond being a Producer certainly has a lot more responsibility on these releases than the creative merits of the games, as she wasn't any part of the creative teams but the state of the games being released sure is her responsibility as a Producer. Watch Dogs was even an infamous scam with a fake demo.
Ass Creed Unity has a USER score of 5.7
Watch Dogs has a USER score of 6.5
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