Yeah. I understand the urge to respond. But I'm uncertain this is a wise decision. The U.S. has acted heedlessly in response to previous attacks on diplomatic missions. And I can't imagine a quicker means to sabotage our standing in Libya. If drone strikes commence, they should be especially judicious.
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Anyone know if that picture been shown on tv yet?
cartoon_soldier
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I would be surprised if all these Republicans are NOT parroting the Romney campaign talking points by end of today:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-tries-to-manage-fallout-from-libya-response/
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-tries-to-manage-fallout-from-libya-response/
Frank the Great
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the HBO film about the romney campaign is going to be hilarious
Officerrob
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Rep. Mike Rodgers (R-MI) who is the Intelligence Committee Chair just said on MSNBC that he has no idea what Romney is talking about in regards to the Romney "apologizing" statement. Republicans are running away from Romney today
I would be seething too, but like others except Romney and his campaign actually understand, a calm articulate approach to the situation where people are briefed on the situation is needed and the only statements that should be made otherwise are of the victims of the attack itself.
I am really dumbfounded today and really mad at the Romney camp, even though I don't like him as a candidate or much of his policies I didn't take him for THIS much of a political opportunist to try to snatch victory the from the face of a tragedy less then 24 hours after it happened. Its appalling and shows a clearer reason then anything he has given why he has no right to be president. Foreign Policy is like THE one thing the president has actual control over both in designating ambassador and the message we send to the world, and he just went and diluted a sitting presidents message before he even had a chance to speak with out of context lies, I just... I can't think of a more heinous screw up for a challenging presidential nominee to make, and it just brings the discourse of the discussion down with it. The event shouldn't be political, but now Romney has made it political right out of the gate, he better not whine about how the media treats him over this, he will deserve anything everything that comes at him over the weeks news cycle.
Sure, you can assume that. Basically, whatever the facts turn out to be, Romney will try to think of the most negative, hurtful thing to say about the President, labeled as a failure in leadership, and throw it against the wall in hopes that it'll sway the mood of the electorate back in his direction.
The scary thing is that it could work at some point.
Mittens: "WTF Obama, we should be striking the targets, not gathering intelligence for unstable leadership in Libya!"
PhoenixDark
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One note of disagreement: I don't think Obama should be campaigning today - in fact one might argue this is a case where he can campaign by not campaigning. What I mean is that Romney has pretty much embarrassed himself today by playing politics with this issue. If I was an adviser I'd suggest Obama cancel all his rally plans for today and hold his own press conference, and implicitly state he has no intention of discussing politics; no need to attack Romney or even mention his name, Romney has done enough damage to himself today.
By holding a 30 minute press conference and discussing this issue as well as the Israel situation, Obama will look far more presidential than the shit Romney pulled today. Hence the idea of campaigning by not campaigning. He doesn't have to hold a rally - or even mention Romney's name - to do damage
By holding a 30 minute press conference and discussing this issue as well as the Israel situation, Obama will look far more presidential than the shit Romney pulled today. Hence the idea of campaigning by not campaigning. He doesn't have to hold a rally - or even mention Romney's name - to do damage
Officerrob
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I.....I....agree? What the hell is going on today?
You think he should pull a McCain?
If he does this and it doesn't send the polls jumping then I've lost faith in the American electorate.
I'm pretty curious about this, actually. If the Republican leadership in general stays away from these talking points, that'll be a pretty clear statement as to their faith in Romney's campaign.
Officerrob
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Not "campaigning" for a day is nowhere near pulling a McCain and I think is a pretty smart move.
PoliGAF has entered an alternate dimension.
I don't see a net-negative for Obama to be on the stump. He needs to keep the base energized. If he mentions Libya, he should do it by just mentioning the tragic loss and move on.
PhoenixDark
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I don't think that's comparable to McCain; he wouldn't be suspending his campaign, he'd simply be cancelling his schedule for the day to look/act presidential; that's not to say holding a rally makes him look un-presidential. I just think there's a clear advantage to be seized here.
I'd hold a conference and then send drones to Libya immediately afterward; I don't see the point in revealing the plan so early, which is what happened. Just start bombing and let the AP find out on their own. That's not to say I agree with sending in drones, but at this point it probably has to be done.
That's reassuring. It eliminates the risk of committing a major mistake. And it actually instills a sense of legitimacy in the Libyan government.
He's actually president, though. The situations aren't analogous.
Rocket Scientist
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Why are these reporters letting Romney lie about the statements from the embassy...?
Red Blaster
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That lie isn't part of The Narrative.
I think he was making a comment about how Obama should 'make a comment' to not campaign. It should be implicit and that may end up being what PD meant to say. Don't campaign, talk about the situation, do your job, let your opponent look like the fool and be done with it. Its not only smart politically its the right thing to do anyways, no one likes political games and they especially don't over tragedies. Just the act of stating "no politics today" can have a negative remark because it implies there is a time for politics.
They're calling him out for being an oppertunist, which is something.
Rocket Scientist
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To be honest it feels like they're merely asking the question whether he is being an opportunist. Which definitely is something, but this deserves a stronger reaction. They still let him talk about the statement as if it was in response to the deaths and as if it was an actual apology.
BotoxAgent
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yeah, pretty much. What a vile human being.
Officerrob
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It was Wolf Blitzer, the guy is a joke. But does that narrative help Romney?
I guess I don't see the connection between a one day hold of campaign, and addressing the attacks. He's the President, he should be able to manage all that. Especially considering how important they are making the election out to be.
He must be tired of his job and is just rolling over.
Yeah on Twitter this morning he was going on about how now we get to see contrasts in the candidate's foreign policy and forcing himself to be as "BOTH SIDEEEEZ" as possible.
Thequietone
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I don't see how anyone can like Romney now. Look at that Cheshire cat smile on his face after giving a press conference on the deaths of human lives. It's sickening.
Not one fuck to be given in the world.
Ha.An entertaining chart from Gallup's demographic survey yesterday.
What a fucking asshole. Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. This is a new low. Fuck the media for not denouncing him.
Hobbestetrician
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Smirkgate.
Byakuya769
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Lay off the guy. He lives for humor.
LOL, you guys will grasp at anything. Romney always smiles (or that smirk) while he's taking a question - yes, I'm sure he was smiling about people dying.
Zeus Molecules
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I thought I was the only one who noticed. If this gains traction I wonder how the Romney campaign will try to spin it into a positive light.
You can't be serious right now. I refuse to believe it. I refuse...
Thequietone
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I'll take the bait. It's not that he's smiling at their deaths, but smiling that their deaths have given him something to attack Obama on foreign policy.*
*in Romney's mind.
*in Romney's mind.
Blergmeister
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It's totally ok. There is never a time that big grins are inappropriate. I always smile when conversations strike up. I smirked real big when I was at a funeral and paid my respects to the widow.
Mercury Fred
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Utter and complete trash. He almost makes W look classy by comparison.
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