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[teruterubozu]

Gov't refusing to sell stake in GM after GM requests they do

As EV will tell you, this is akin to giving a neighbor $50 and then being a dick about it when they can only repay you $30, even though you have a magic money tree in your backyard and can simply go pick more money whenever you want it.

So you're advocating more printing of money? Interesting.

 

[SouthernDragon]

Gov't refusing to sell stake in GM after GM requests they do

As EV will tell you, this is akin to giving a neighbor $50 and then being a dick about it when they can only repay you $30, even though you have a magic money tree in your backyard and can simply go pick more money whenever you want it.

But officials at the Treasury Department were not interested as selling now would lead to a multibillion dollar loss for the government, the newspaper noted.

Actually, it's closer to investing in a company when they were totally fucked and waiting for said investment to pay off instead of cashing out early and realizing a loss.

 

[Kosmo]

Actually, it's closer to investing in a company when they were totally fucked and waiting for said investment to pay off instead of cashing out early and realizing a loss.

Those last two words are not applicable to the government.

 

[RDreamer]

Those last two words are not applicable to the government.

Kosmo's gone full MMT? Wacky...

 

[teruterubozu]

Those last two words are not applicable to Obama's government.

fixed for your rhetoric.

 

[Lambtron]

Just gotta keep electing Democrats and the apology tour shall continue on.

Hopefully one of them will stop the drone bombing. I'd find it hard to put much into an apology from someone who is sending robots to shoot cruise missiles at "enemy combatants" half way around the world.

 

[Aaron Strife]

There's another poll that has Baldwin up 3, but it's an internal too, for Democracy for America. Interestingly Obama's up by just one, 49-48.

Edit: Oh shit, it's PPP. Legitimacy!

 

[Tim-E]

Never thought I'd see the day when EV and Kosmo subscribed to the same economic theory.

 

[The Librarian]

Romney: Obama’s Action Against China ‘Too Little, Too Late’

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/romney-obamas-action-against-china-too-little-too

Wait this dose not make sense, its too late for Obama but not for him?

Romney reads Gaborn's posts.

 

[Kosmo]

Never thought I'd see the day when EV and Kosmo subscribed to the same economic theory.

I think there are limits to the extent to which EV pushes it.

 

[Forever]

Hey Kosmo, another liberal media rag is trying to rain on Romney's parade.

 

[Gotchaye]

The more last minute the plan though, the less thought out it will be to think about long term consequences of doing said plan. Somethign tells me it will be an enormously short term plan just to please the hardcore righties.

But then there's not really any political advantage to it.

ToxicAdam's entirely correct here. Some in this thread have expressed a worry that Romney is going to bust out specifics in a debate and Obama's not going to be able to respond effectively.

If Romney comes out with a proposal which is actually a good or popular idea, Obama can just say "I agree. Please ask Congress to pass it now - why wait until the election?" The Democrats are so centrist on the deficit that there's really no specific and popular proposal they wouldn't endorse, especially if they could guarantee that the Republicans wouldn't start attacking them for doing something horrible.

If Romney comes out with an awful but specific proposal, even if its one where Obama doesn't have a great grasp of the details, Obama can just say that he disagrees and we'll let the American people decide. Then Romney's tied down to a specific proposal with specific implications and he's going to get annihilated in the media and with ads.

 

[ivysaur12]

PPP now has Tammy Baldwin 3 points over Tommy Thompson

 

[Blergmeister]

I think there are limits to the extent to which EV pushes it.

MMTer Kosmo makes me giddy. Remember that MMT does not necessarily mean you follow EVs preferred policy, it just means you peg the Federal Governments ability to spend to the inflation rate rather than the deficit. What policy proposals do you recomend Kosmo?

 

[jbug617]

Just seen the new Scott Brown ad and he addresses Elizabeth Warren for the first time in his ads. He says Warren ads are lying about him and she is doing nothing but attack ads. He ends the ad saying he is one of the regular people and he works for the people.

 

[teruterubozu]

Just seen the new Scott Brown ad and he addresses Elizabeth Warren for the first time in his ads. He says Warren ads are lying about him and she is doing nothing but attack ads. He ends the ad saying he is one of the regular people and he works for the people.

I hope Warren wins, but Massachusetts loves their Kennedy-styled blowdried blowhards like Romney, Kerry and Brown.

 

[AlteredBeast]

I would love for Romney to detail his plan in specifics during the debates. I love for it to be a really good economic plan that everyone could get on board with. I would love for him to come out for sensible immigration reform, tax policy that won't neuter the government's ability to serve the people, etc.

I would love for him to be a good candidate.

I would love...

 

[ivysaur12]

I hope Warren wins, but Massachusetts loves their Kennedy-styled blowdried blowhards like Romney, Kerry and Brown.

She's not very charismatic, but might win on the fear of "we don't want a GOP-controlled Senate". If Brown was the same person, but with a D after his name, he'd win by a landslide.

Now it looks like Tammy is back in the game. I wonder if a more competitive election in Wisconsin will help or hurt her...

 

[jbug617]

I hope Warren wins, but Massachusetts loves their Kennedy-styled blowdried blowhards like Romney, Kerry and Brown.

Scott Brown did make a mistake last week when he said he would vote against the tax cuts for people who make 250k or less. Don't know if this a huge mistake but I believe Warren will bring this up at the debate this week.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Scott Brown did make a mistake last week when he said he would vote against the tax cuts for people who make 250k or less. Don't know if this a huge mistake but I believe Warren will bring this up at the debate this week.

Wow, I would definitely vote for him based on that alone. Finally someone responsible enough to tell people that we can't keep tax cuts on everyone.

 

[tranciful]

New Obama Ad

Mitt Romney: Extreme Makeover Campaign Edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTXALg4-Qg

Good theme, but poor execution

 

[pigeon]

Gov't refusing to sell stake in GM after GM requests they do

As EV will tell you, this is akin to giving a neighbor $50 and then being a dick about it when they can only repay you $30, even though you have a magic money tree in your backyard and can simply go pick more money whenever you want it.

Says they want the government to sell because of "reputation" and because of pay restrictions. In other words, they can't give each other big enough raises whie the Treasury has the reins. Sounds good to me!

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Wow, I would definitely vote for him based on that alone. Finally someone responsible enough to tell people that we can't keep tax cuts on everyone.

He wants to give the tax cuts... He just wants rich folk to get their tax cuts too...

 

[AlteredBeast]

He wants to give the tax cuts... He just wants rich folk to get their tax cuts too...

boo this man.

I had my temporary hopes up.

 

[thefro]

Good theme, but poor execution

The longer 2-minute web ads are for the media & supporters and don't usually run on TV.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Lol @rassumessen 47-45 Romney.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Lol @rassumessen 47-45 Romney.

No man is an island. His numbers will magically conform come November 4th...

 

[Cloudy]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/...izarre-interview-with-former-obama-supporter/

Fox News exposed once again lol

 

[RustyNails]

Lol @rassumessen 47-45 Romney.

Give them a rest. It's practically the only poll that is going to deliver us the salt on election day.

 

[HylianTom]

Lol @rassumessen 47-45 Romney.

I kinda like this. It keeps the heat on Dems to turn out, and it makes the GOP's bitter tears on Election Night even yummier. When they still retain hope and are then broken by the harsh reality of a big Obama win? That's much more delicious.

 

[Loudninja]

False and debunked ahahahaha

“President Obama is recycling false and debunked attacks because he can’t tell the people of Ohio about his record of fewer jobs, more debt, and lower incomes," spokesman Ryan Williams said Monday. "President Obama’s failed stimulus bill didn’t meet his own standard for lowering unemployment and sent taxpayer money to foreign-owned companies, and even members of his own party have loudly condemned his inaction toward China. But it’s middle-class Americans who have paid the real price for President Obama’s weak, ineffective leadership.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.c...mocrats-have-condemned-obamas-inaction-toward

 

[Aaron Strife]

Two polls with Baldwin leading. Guess she's got it locked up.

Now it looks like Tammy is back in the game. I wonder if a more competitive election in Wisconsin will help or hurt her...

Probably help. The voters Obama would focus on turning out would probably be party-line marginal democrats.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

This was taken to RedState (my mind is still numb) but is there any truth to this?:

"Rasmussen has the GOP voter registration at 37.6%, highest it's ever been. Democrats are at 33.3%, 1% from its all time low."

I'm hoping this isn't the case this election since Democrats will need all the votes they can get I think.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/...izarre-interview-with-former-obama-supporter/

Fox News exposed once again lol

That's some seriously bad background checking. He graduated high school in 2010... He needs to release those emails though.

 

[SouthernDragon]

I don't think I've seen this discussed in here.

Imagine if this actually happened on TV...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-vxZUOk0vQ&feature=share

 

[PhoenixDark]

This was taken to RedState (my mind is still numb) but is there any truth to this?:

"Rasmussen has the GOP voter registration at 37.6%, highest it's ever been. Democrats are at 33.3%, 1% from its all time low."

I'm hoping this isn't the case this election since Democrats will need all the votes they can get I think.

It's true. I think people could be in for a big surprise on election day if Romney can not fuck up between now and the first debate

 

[Hop]

It's true. I think people could be in for a big surprise on election day if Romney can not fuck up between now and the first debate

So, false then?

 

[richiek]

This was taken to RedState (my mind is still numb) but is there any truth to this?:

"Rasmussen has the GOP voter registration at 37.6%, highest it's ever been. Democrats are at 33.3%, 1% from its all time low."

I'm hoping this isn't the case this election since Democrats will need all the votes they can get I think.

That's all that needs to be said.

 

[Forever]

It's true. I think people could be in for a big surprise on election day if Romney can not fuck up between now and the first debate

Yeah and Hillary is 44.

 

[AlteredBeast]

It's true. I think people could be in for a big surprise on election day if Romney can not fuck up between now and the first debate

LOL. I was like, "who is this new guy in here playing on PD's shtick!?!"

then i saw the username. Unless Obama gets caught with a live boy/dead girl/white girl it is over, man.

 

[Black Mamba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyAZPVEmpo

lol @ Fox & Friends getting fooled by a dude who seemed to have lost a bet.

 

[Aaron Strife]

This was taken to RedState (my mind is still numb) but is there any truth to this?:

"Rasmussen has the GOP voter registration at 37.6%, highest it's ever been. Democrats are at 33.3%, 1% from its all time low."

I'm hoping this isn't the case this election since Democrats will need all the votes they can get I think.

Rasmussen is the only pollster showing a more republican electorate than democrats.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Rasmussen is the only pollster showing a more republican electorate than democrats.

and the only one that shows Romney leading, hmm...

 

[AniHawk]

and the only one that shows Romney leading, hmm...

so what you're saying is that they're clearly on to something.

 

[Clevinger]

Now that Rasmussen bravely went first, the other pollsters won't be as scared of Obama's bullies in showing Romney's lead.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Now that Rasmussen bravely went first, the other pollsters won't be as scared of Obama's bullies in showing Romney's lead.

Just remember, Rasmussen is less biased to the right than PPP to the left! (source: one poll in 2008)

 

[Black Mamba]

Gov't refusing to sell stake in GM after GM requests they do

As EV will tell you, this is akin to giving a neighbor $50 and then being a dick about it when they can only repay you $30, even though you have a magic money tree in your backyard and can simply go pick more money whenever you want it.

By that logic, why even ask for any money?

Furthermore, GM isn't repaying a loan, they're trying to buy ownership.

And don't sit here and act like if Obama brought back money at the current stock price that you wouldn't be lambasting him for losing money on the deal.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

Phew! That being said, the news doesn't bring up or emphasize the statistics for voter turnout too often. That's a pretty important statistic lol

 

[StopMakingSense]

Rasmussen is the only pollster showing a more republican electorate than democrats.

Yeah a national presidential poll showing more R than D is fantasy, and indicative of the hoodoo Rasmussen uses to manipulate their likely voter screen.

 

[RustyNails]

So after a disastrous week of bungles, Romney campaign retooled his campaign over the weekend and started anew with the issue of the campaign: Economy. But the politico story on Romney mismanagement is starting to overshadow his message.

Will rift report distract from new economic message?

Los Angeles (CNN) - After a tumultuous week marked by Republican hand-wringing over his comments on unrest in Libya and Egypt, Mitt Romney is going back to the beginning. The GOP nominee is refocusing his message on the issue repeatedly singled-out by campaign advisers as the one that will decide the election: the economy.

Based on excerpts released from a speech Romney is scheduled to deliver to the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce on Monday in Los Angeles and two new TV ads, Romney appears to be starting the week with a simpler, easier to understand economic pitch to voters.

"I know how to balance budgets. We balanced our budget in my business, in the Olympics, and every year in my state," Romney is expected to say in his address.

The return to the economy follows days of open criticism from some top Republican strategists and pundits about Romney's comments on the recent diplomatic attacks in Libya and his overall strategy for winning in November.

A new distraction for the campaign emerged late Sunday night in a glaring report from POLITICO, which revealed some of the tensions brewing among Romney's top advisers. In the report, Romney strategist Stuart Stevens is blamed for some of the perceived mishaps at the Republican Convention, most notably Clint Eastwood's memorable, yet bizarre speech to an empty chair.

A senior Romney adviser dismissed the POLITICO piece as inside baseball gossip. "Stu is part of the team," the adviser said.

Reports of internal strife plagued John McCain's campaign in the weeks before the 2008 election. Stories about the infighting surrounding McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate eventually interfered with the Arizona senator's campaign message.

The POLITICO story on the Romney campaign is beginning to have the same effect, but for how long remains unclear.

On Twitter, former speechwriter to President George W. Bush and CNN contributor David Frum said the POLITICO piece "utterly misses the point."

"The Romney campaign has a messaging problem because it has a policy problem," Frum tweeted.