RustyNails
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Rachel Maddow said what you did verbatim. Either you are Rachel Maddow, or you guys are fucking wizards.
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PoliGAF 2012 |OT4|: Your job is not to worry about 47% of these posts.
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Rachel Maddow said what you did verbatim. Either you are Rachel Maddow, or you guys are fucking wizards.
smokeandmirrors
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Yeah but if you unskew that Obama got shat on 70/30.
:lol
MasterShotgun
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PPP:Colorado voters give Obama a 48/44 victory in the debate- more importantly 58/36 among independents. Sample is R+3
Wow.
brianmcdoogle
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I always tought PPP skewed a little bit left. Either way, great night.
58/36.
We all know PPP is a holy grail (according to Diablos).
it's quinnipac or whatever it's called now! that's the really good one, really!
I always tought PPP skewed a little bit left. Either way, great night.
Silver said they skew a little right.
reggieandTFE
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Their national poll today gave Romney one of his largest "serious" poll leads of the race.I always tought PPP skewed a little bit left. Either way, great night.
StopMakingSense
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I always tought PPP skewed a little bit left. Either way, great night.
I think the thing is that these polls are of debate watchers, which seems to skew heavier R than general polls.
Black Mamba
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Rachel Maddow said what you did verbatim. Either you are Rachel Maddow, or you guys are fucking wizards.
It's true. What's funny is the same accusation came up in a conversation I had with a colleague.
I e-mailed him a transcript of it (Rose Garden speech). Then he claimed Obama played youtube videos on it at the UN. So I sent him the transcript of the speech.
He didn't reply, it's been days.
cartoon_soldier
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I always tought PPP skewed a little bit left. Either way, great night.
People only think that because mainly Democratic groups and campaigns do business with them. In terms of Poll accuracy their track record is pretty darn good.
ryutaro's mama
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Looking at all the headlines on the Big 3's websites.
DAT TIE
DAT TIE
Officerrob
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I always tought PPP skewed a little bit left. Either way, great night.
They are labeled as left leaning, but Nate Silver says they actually lean slightly right
About the foreign policy debate, I hope Obama can educate the ignorant public that everyone cares about their economy and this includes the Iranians, so our sanctions and diplomatic efforts are having a profound effect on Iran and their nuclear ambitions, in addition to the threat of military action that he never took off the table. Then he can make jabs about how Bush administration and cowboy diplomacy worked out during their administration.
Rachel Maddow said what you did verbatim. Either you are Rachel Maddow, or you guys are fucking wizards.
I am not Rachel Maddow, but maybe I should apply for a job WITH Rachel Maddow.
Now that he did and I don't know if the third debate will matter.
i don't think people care so much about foreign policy this time around. that's why losing the first debate so hard hurt so much.
if this obama shows up for the third debate, he should win that one too.
CNN:
46-39 O
now there's a batman.
Black Mamba
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I am not Rachel Maddow, but maybe I should apply for a job WITH Rachel Maddow.
Put yourself in a binder, send it to her.
Ezra actually fact-checking Obama that Bush did want medicare vouchers. haha.
jamesinclair
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The Libya exchange was legendary. Obama looked the most presidential he's ever been, Romney looked like a kid getting schooled, and then got fact-checked on live TV. I have a feeling we're going to see this re-played over and over at debate time for years to come.
There were so many amazing moments.
-The Libya moment, fact check and then the one time the audience responded
-Romney yelling "government doesnt create jobs!" like a baby
-The binder
-Obama acting like Mr Commander of Bosses with his Libya ownership....also looking straight at Romney AND a camera at the same time, with super serious tone.
-Romney being a bully again
-The Bush comparison
-Romney declaring he was closing a coal power plant
-Romney signing an assault weapon ban
-Romney saying no to answering a question from the moderator
And Obama could have had more. He didnt answer the immigration thing, could have easily explained the fillibuster and fact checked the supermajority statement.
Could have also pointed out that capital gains going to zero means romney pays no taxes, and that the middle class makes like $2 a year in capital gains.
CNN:
46-39 O
That Obama comeback!
Bam Bam Baklava
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46-39 Obama for the CNN/ORC post-debate poll.
What was the first debate numbers?
ryutaro's mama
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Honestly I think those on the fence were simply waiting for this Obama to show up.
Now that he did and I don't know if the third debate will matter.
BOOM
Close out Game 5 at home on Monday.
metalslimer
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Wait CNN just said there poll was more republican than usual which makes this a draw? How does that makes sense? Wouldn't that mean this was a bigger Obama win? Also CNN's attempts to spin this as a tie and how Obama is doomed is hilarious
Romney will have a clearly scripted response for Libya at the next debate.
He's had several clearly scripted responses, none have been good or stood up to scrutiny.
It's not like he just made up his Libya attack on the spot today. He prepped it.
RustyNails
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Cant WAIT for Slate's Political Kombat '12 tomorrow.
Candy Crowly better be Obama's fatality.
Candy Crowly better be Obama's fatality.
NullPointer
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He mentioned prayers, the dolts.Lol, my friend from North Carolina is saying his Facebook has a few religious nuts crying about how Obama didn't mention God. Crazy idiots...
but of course that must have meant praying to his own image, in gold relief.
MasterShotgun
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Ezra actually fact-checking Obama that Bush did want medicare vouchers. haha.
What's funny is that the fact check is still favorable for Obama.
Wait CNN just said there poll was more republican than usual which makes this a draw? How does that makes sense? Wouldn't that mean this was a bigger Obama win? Also CNN's attempts to spin this as a tie and how Obama is doomed is hilarious
They're so bent on being "independent" they're not even making sense of their own damn polls anymore.
Byakuya769
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He mentioned prayers, the dolts.
but of course that must have meant praying to his own image, in gold relief.
Those prayers could have been geared to you, for all we know.
Cant WAIT for Slate's Political Kombat '12 tomorrow.
Candy Crowly better be Obama's fatality.
I feel like they've made them all in advance, I mean look at the Ryan/Biden one.
Guys
I just woke up,
did Barry destroy the pathological liar?
Yes, then the moderator did as well.
Guys
I just woke up,
did Barry destroy the pathological liar?
Obama win.
RoninChaos
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Yup, he used the debate to announce his new voucher tax plan.
Also said the wealthy wont get tax cuts and immediately started talking about eliminating capital gains taxes, which is what the wealthy pay taxes on.
Obama fucked up by not calling our Romneys tax rate under that plan
Just had the same thought. But I don't think it made Obama less effective.
RustyNails
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Wait CNN just said there poll was more republican than usual which makes this a draw? How does that makes sense? Wouldn't that mean this was a bigger Obama win? Also CNN's attempts to spin this as a tie and how Obama is doomed is hilarious
I'm not sure, but I think they were somehow trying to reflect the party ID of people watching the debate nationally. I could be wrong though.
Red Blaster
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Guys
I just woke up,
did Barry destroy the pathological liar?
Obama peed himself and ran home crying
He mentioned prayers, the dolts.
but of course that must have meant praying to his own image, in gold relief.
I guess one of them posted about him being Muslim, so they might have thought he was praying to the Muslim god.
Black Mamba
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Romney: "I will lower unemployment"
Romney: "Government does not create jobs"
How do these two statements coexist in someone's mind either as a voter or a presidential candidate?
Romney: "I won't cut military jobs."
Romney: "Government does not create jobs."
This is even more egregious.
Officerrob
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CNN is still trying to call it a draw even with the numbers.
They said the poll had eight percent more Republicans so that makes a seven point Obama win a draw? That's some fucked-up math
TacticalFox88
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I love how most of the smackdowns were simply because of Romney's ineptitude of not knowing how to shut the fuck up.
He basically gave Obama many lines of attack and he seized them. Closing out the debate was just icing on an already delicious cake.
He basically gave Obama many lines of attack and he seized them. Closing out the debate was just icing on an already delicious cake.
RustyNails
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Someone said earlier after the VP debate that in order to "win" the debate, you better win points in the actual debate as well as the spinroom war post-debate.
Obama clearly won both.
Obama clearly won both.
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