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iamshadowlark said:
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Mitt and Bams had dinner.

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Gotta admit this was kind of funny
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roger ailes looking typically unhappy.

and starting to appear that RAND is coming in line with gallup. i eagerly await results of IBD, reuters and PPP to confirm trend.
 
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Zabka said:
Republicans and conservative press are attacking the President over Libya again. This time over his use of the phrase "not optimal" on the Daily Show, even though he was just using Jon's words to answer his question.

They're just throwing shit at the wall at this point.
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Its disgusting, you can tell Obama was saying optimal is not the word to use when 4 Americans die, and fox twists and turns.
 
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basically cofirms their daily tracker is a measure of enthusiasm.

But Newport was cautious in interpreting his numbers. Gallup’s poll cheered Romney supporters because it showed Romney gaining ground even after the second debate. But Newport didn’t see it like that. Remember, he warned, it’s a seven-day poll. “I think we’re still seeing leftover positive support for Romney and I don’t think we’re seeing impact yet from the second debate,” he says.

What you think is going on in the race depends on whether you think the electorate will ultimately look more like Gallup’s “likely voter” model, where the race is a blowout, or all registered voters, where it’s a dead heat. So I asked Newport to explain the likely voter model to me.

“The likely voters model takes into account changes in the response to questions about how closely they’re following and how enthusiastic they are,” he said. “It’s not just capturing underlying movement — it’s representing changes in enthusiasm.”
That sounds, I replied, like a model that would tend to overstate the effects of major events that favored one candidate or the other, as their supporters would grow temporarily more enthusiastic and attentive, while the other side would grow temporarily disillusioned. Newport agreed. “I wouldn’t use the word ‘overstate,’ ” he said. “But it would be very sensitive to changes in enthusiasm. The Denver debate clearly had an impact on Romney’s people. I think your insight is correct there. Whether we see a dulling of that over the next several days is what I want to see.”
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-by-7-and-will-obama-win-the-election-anyway/
 
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RAND coming back to reality is good news. They no longer look like an outlier like Gallup.

Also, regarding:

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Nice, that Iowa Marist poll got a good weight too.

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Zabka said:
Republicans and conservative press are attacking the President over Libya again. This time over his use of the phrase "not optimal" on the Daily Show, even though he was just using Jon's words to answer his question.

They're just throwing shit at the wall at this point.
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Republicans only run on gaffe-fuel. In the absence of real gaffes, they'll just twist someone's words until it's gaffe-like.
 
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Marie Claire magazine in a wide-ranging interview that she will not run for president in 2016.

Said Clinton: "I have been on this high wire of national and international politics and leadership for 20 years. It has been an absolutely extraordinary personal honor and experience. But I really want to just have my own time back. I want to just be my own person."
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I do hope she changes her mind, as I think she's the best shot that the democrats have at keeping the White House. What other viable candidates do they have that are ready to run in 2016 other than Cuomo and O'Malley?
 
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Tim-E said:
I do hope she changes her mind, as I think she's the best shot that the democrats have at keeping the White House. What other viable candidates do they have that are ready to run in 2016 other than Cuomo and O'Malley?
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Schweitzer, governor of Montana. Extremely impressive during the DNC. personally I thought he could take out Hillary even if she did run
 
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Manmademan said:
Schweitzer, governor of Montana. Extremely impressive during the DNC. personally I thought he could take out Hillary even if she did run
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I do like him a lot. I think he would be able to appeal to a lot more regions than someone like Cuomo, as New England democrats haven't done well over the last few decades on a national scale. Has there been any talk of him considering a run?
 
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Tim-E said:
I do hope she changes her mind, as I think she's the best shot that the democrats have at keeping the White House. What other viable candidates do they have that are ready to run in 2016 other than Cuomo and O'Malley?
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Bill Clinton wouldn't be going all out campaigning for Obama if Hillary didn't want to run. I don't think you have to worry.
 
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Tim-E said:
I do hope she changes her mind, as I think she's the best shot that the democrats have at keeping the White House. What other viable candidates do they have that are ready to run in 2016 other than Cuomo and O'Malley?
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Diamond Joe Biden.
 
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Oh she's such a liar. Why do you think bill is working so hard this cycle? It's not because he feels bad for Hillary being so abused and alone
 
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Tim-E said:
I do hope she changes her mind, as I think she's the best shot that the democrats have at keeping the White House. What other viable candidates do they have that are ready to run in 2016 other than Cuomo and O'Malley?
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Even if she is planning to, she wouldn't say so during an election.
 
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Tim-E said:
I do hope she changes her mind, as I think she's the best shot that the democrats have at keeping the White House. What other viable candidates do they have that are ready to run in 2016 other than Cuomo and O'Malley?
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Ha, no one believes her. But that's the absolute correct thing to say when you want to transition out of a high profile role like SOS and don't want to look like you're cynically leaving just to gear up for a run in 2016.

Though I don't doubt that she probably does want to rest and enjoy some free time for once, that's completely genuine. But she knows she's a heavy favorite in 2016 and she'd have a real chance to be the first female POTUS, y'know she won't ignore that. Plus the pressure to run from all sides would be unbelievably crazy if she really was staying out.
 
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Ed Rendell seriously just said (on Morning Joe) "When's the last time Iowa was decided by 8? You have to go back to '84 with Reagan."

No Ed. Obama won Iowa by 10 in 2008, 54 to 44.
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So what exactly is Ed's a deal here? What is he trying to say? is he trying to keep trying to keep the race closer? And if so why? Because obviously he wants Obama to win, so what's the point?
 
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Tim-E said:
I do like him a lot. I think he would be able to appeal to a lot more regions than someone like Cuomo, as New England democrats haven't done well over the last few decades on a national scale. Has there been any talk of him considering a run?
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Not that im aware of, but it's early. I do know he's not up to run as governor again though, so he's well positioned.
 
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Tim-E said:
I do hope she changes her mind, as I think she's the best shot that the democrats have at keeping the White House. What other viable candidates do they have that are ready to run in 2016 other than Cuomo and O'Malley?
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I really don't know anything about O'Malley policy and accomplishment-wise, but every interview and time I have seen him (at the DNC and recently) I've really loved the guy. He's got an infectious smile, personality, and positivity.

I still almost feel though if Biden runs I have to support him in the primary just for the whooping he gave Paul Ryan. I'm obligated to repay the glee he gave me that day.
 
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PPP: Barack Obama moved into a slight lead in our national tracker when Thursday interviews replaced Monday's. Numbers will be up soon

National poll, so who cares etc etc. But another lolz to Gallup.
 
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Tim-E said:
I do like him a lot. I think he would be able to appeal to a lot more regions than someone like Cuomo, as New England democrats haven't done well over the last few decades on a national scale. Has there been any talk of him considering a run?
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A few days ago, Schweitzer said that ""If Hillary runs, she walks away with the nomination and then beats whichever Republican....It's lights out."

I still hope he runs, though...I think he'd win in a landslide, since he'd bring in a couple of Western states, and I could see him being competitive in some parts of the South, depending on who the GOP nominee is.
 
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matthewwhatever said:
A few days ago, Schweitzer said that ""If Hillary runs, she walks away with the nomination and then beats whichever Republican....It's lights out."

I still hope he runs, though...I think he'd win in a landslide, since he'd bring in a couple of Western states, and I could see him being competitive in some parts of the South, depending on who the GOP nominee is.
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Better yet, she picks him as VP, he helps with midwest, maybe the south, and then she sets him up for after her.

Then Schweitzer runs, picks Castro as VP.

none of this is going to happen :p
 
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I'd be all for a Clinton/Schweitzer ticket, but I think it's a bit early to be predicting vice presidential nominees four years from now :p
 
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