This morning I believe but it is still trending on US twitter.
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This morning I believe but it is still trending on US twitter.
speculawyer
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17 of 24 FP Advisors Are Bush Neocons
She's a home health nurse and blames Obamacare on the drug shortages she has witnessed lately. She can't think of an actual way that Obamacare would have caused the shortages, but supplies were fine under Bush, haha.
She actually does understand some of Obamacare better than many Republicans (she understands what Medicare Advantage is and doesn't like it) but she will never give Obama and today's Democrats for something she sees as good.
She's a crazy lady.
Black Mamba
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I am fairly certain Obama will get more than 85% of blacks and 60% of hispanics.
And yes, this does matter in states like Nevada, Colorado, etc.
And yes, this does matter in states like Nevada, Colorado, etc.
PhoenixDark
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Xbox 360 re-release
RustyNails
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This tweedle dee and tweedle dum Republicans on Bill Maher are asinine.
THIS. This is what I've tried to argue to my father, a fan of Asimov and Hawking and a major sci fi geek. But still, no dice. My first insistence of a politician: live in the world of scientific reality. Not a world where the Earth is 6000 years old and not one where Jesus rode a dinosaur.
Yet, he still votes like he does, and he knows I'm damn disappointed.
Hell.. if you're a white male in the country and you vote Democrat, you're either a queer or a hippie or a godless communist - something's wrong with you.
Guess my perceptions are skewed because I live in the beating heart of liberaldom deep in the Northeast.
Well i guess her back has never been against the wall in the past with a pre-existing condition or she's filthy rich and doesn't care
One of the most machismo guys I know (he is also white) is a huge liberal, but won't outwardly admit it because he thinks it makes him look weak.
ryutaro's mama
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So how did the Mitt Romney Libya Information Hour go?
Must be nice. I live right in the heart of conservativedom in Wisconsin. The whitest, richest part of the state. Bunch of stuck up asshats around here.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Where at? Which county do rich people congregate in that doesn't always go blue?
I know that feel, bro.
There are 55 people in my MPP class. We had to fill out a survey on the first day that we've been using for various statistics problems. I ran the numbers, and there's 1 Republican out of 55 people. No one knows who it is. Speculation is rampant.
However, I'm taking some courses in the MBA school, and the split there is probably closer to 60/40 conservative, with more than a few of those being libertarians.
However, I'm taking some courses in the MBA school, and the split there is probably closer to 60/40 conservative, with more than a few of those being libertarians.
MasterShotgun
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I understand your pain. My mom thinks Romney will be like Reagan, which is hilarious on multiple levels. She also continues to hold an incident against Obama when he didn't place his hand over his heart during the national anthem at some event before he took office, claiming it's one of the most Un-American things a President can do. I'm certain it's just a thinly veiled excuse to dislike him. I know she still thinks he's a Muslim after hearing Obama praise God for something and she tried to call bullshit.
I've completely given up arguing with her for this election.
Can we impeach Xbox 360? I swear there are smart phones, tablets, and calculators more powerful than that relic.
empty vessel
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I suggest you move, when you can. You will be happier elsewhere.
Well, the richest part of the state is the River Hills and Mequon area where I worked for quite a while. I live about ~5 miles from there now, but still in a richer white suburban area in Ozaukee county. River Hills is kind of a gated type community that I had to pass by every day on the way home for a while.
The district I'm in now has Glenn Grothmann (the "Money is more important to men," guy that wrote the bill that would have made single parenthood child abuse) as a representative for the state. My representative for US congress is Jim Sensenbrenner. I suppose River Hills is in a different district for the state, and Alberta Darling was their representative. She did end up getting into a recall election, so I guess that whole state district isn't quite so red (I think it has parts of Milwaukee in it).
And down where I work Paul Ryan is the representative.
Hah, we actually just moved here from just outside Milwaukee. We like the area better. As I've said before, we have to do a sort of compromise between my wife and me. She wants to live in the middle of nowhere, and I have to keep near the city for my profession. So we kind of live on the outskirts. We have a really nice place now, and we love this little town. They have a lot of awesome festivals and things throughout the year. It's really kind of movie creepy how suburban America it is. There's a baseball game or two going on nearly every day int he summer, etc. My dad was making fun of us when we moved here because of that. And outside of politics everyone's really nice in this particular town. (In Mequon, however they are NOT...)
But, yeah, it's nice. I'll probably end up having to move south (and probably end up in Paul Ryan's district....) eventually.
My wife would absolutely love to move to Madison, though. I'm jealous my sister gets to live there in liberal paradise. I'd love to move there, too, but I've gotta find a job there if I want to do that.
My extended family in Indiana and Grand Rapids, Michigan are pretty hardcore Republican.
A little while back someone forwarded a chain email about how Obama planned to raise taxes in such a way that a middle-class older couple selling their home would get absolutely soaked. I did two minutes of research, then replied all to tell them that this tax increase, if ever enacted, would have such a high threshold that no one in the middle class could possibly be affected.
Some people replied angrily to me. They were angry that I'd have the gall to tell them that they had nothing to worry about, that this horrible, middle-class-gouging tax increase was completely fictitious, that they didn't have to rush to sell their homes, and that their President wasn't actually going to screw them over on this. It made no sense to me.
A little while back someone forwarded a chain email about how Obama planned to raise taxes in such a way that a middle-class older couple selling their home would get absolutely soaked. I did two minutes of research, then replied all to tell them that this tax increase, if ever enacted, would have such a high threshold that no one in the middle class could possibly be affected.
Some people replied angrily to me. They were angry that I'd have the gall to tell them that they had nothing to worry about, that this horrible, middle-class-gouging tax increase was completely fictitious, that they didn't have to rush to sell their homes, and that their President wasn't actually going to screw them over on this. It made no sense to me.
speculawyer
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So basically just like all the right-wing pundits that got all mad at Candy Crowley for verifying a completely true statement.
DON'T FUCK WITH MY BUBBLE, MAN!
Reminds me of the email my dad sent me a while back that I had told everyone here about. He said if Obama was re-elected and Obamacare was enacted my mom's beauty salon would go out of business. I did a ton of research and replied with specifics on why those things shouldn't affect him. He just replied with "Nice lefty talking point letter, but that's not how it works in the real world."
PhoenixDark
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:jnc
I'm glad all my family is black. Feels good man. Well, outside of the homophobia...actually it kind of sucks
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Same. If anything my mother is more pissed off about Romney and the conservative movement this election than I am.
Both mine used to be, but these days whenever I talk to my dad, he starts going off on taxes, regulations, and "the illegals".
This is something the (very good) progressive evangelical blog Slacktivist talks about fairly often. The blogger argues that these people aren't /really/ terrified of Obama destroying the country, or satanic child sacrifice, or whatever the cause du jour is. But they're bored, and they're looking for meaning of the nice, clear titanic battle of good vs evil kind. So they need a Sauron to oppose, and they find meaning in opposing it. Then suggesting that the battle is unnecessary is deeply insulting to them. Instead of being relieved that there's nothing to worry about, they're angry that someone's telling them that they've been wasting their time (and more importantly that their source of meaning isn't, actually). It's the same dynamic that's behind conservative Christians becoming entirely about homosexuality and abortion and very resistant to changing their minds; what's important is having something Evil to oppose.
Luckily Fox made their Benghazi special before waiting for pesky facts.
I wonder what it'd be like to have liberal family members. Just that concept is so foreign to me.
Growing up my dad was always the most conservative guy in the room. Any room. Anywhere. He was the tea party before there was a tea party, since from before I can remember he said he disliked Republicans because they were too "pussy" as he always put it. He lived and breathed politics, too. He always had talk radio on whenever we went somewhere, and politics on TV at night.
There are other things you have to deal with. That being one of them (thankfully I never noticed that being an issue with my immediate family on both sides). However none of this political craziness that a lot of other people have to go through. I really feel for you all that have to deal with family that are like this.
If this election really was the titanic clash of good vs evil, wouldn't God have sent forth a better champion than Mitt Romney?
empty vessel
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Me, too, especially being from the deep South and that my parents, in their younger days, voted for Reagan twice, Perot and/or Bush I, and even, at least my dad, Bush II the first time (2000). They miraculously managed to get wiser in their old age, and now they're both bomb-throwing radicals. In Texas, no less. If they hadn't wisened up, there is no telling what our relationship would be like. I'm very grateful. Unfortunately, some of their relationships with their immediate relatives have been ruined in the process.
I really don't think she read it properly.
I roll my eyes at the national anthem/America the beautiful/god bless america circle jerk faux patriotism at sporting events. Your mom would demand I be stoned to death.
Also, this post has disqualified me from ever running for any political office. Ever.
ryutaro's mama
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I have one uncle that's pretty damned liberal. He used to get into arguments with my dad a bunch of times.
The funny thing is that he's the richest person on either side of my family by far. He's probably partially more liberal though because his business takes him all around the world, so he isn't scared of foreign ideas just because they're foreign. More open minded.
The funny thing is that he's the richest person on either side of my family by far. He's probably partially more liberal though because his business takes him all around the world, so he isn't scared of foreign ideas just because they're foreign. More open minded.
Perhaps you will be able to talk to him again soon.
He won't. Xboxtradamus has spoken.
ryutaro's mama
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I said this before but Skinny Al Sharpton looks so weird.
Fixed.
Yeah, I mean the opposite, your situation, is just so foreign to me.
All my close family, I don't talk to my extended family enough to know what they think of anything, are even for things like gay marriage - even my 80 year old grandma.
So just remember there's good people in Florida next time you guys bash this state
.MasterShotgun
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I'm the odd one out in my family. I have an aunt and uncle and possibly a few cousins who may be closet liberals, but it's only a hunch. What's worse is I'm stuck in Georgia. I have some hope it might swing blue one day, but moving out of state when I get the chance is definitely on my mind.
Aaron Strife
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Show is over, folks.
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