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PoliGAF 2012 |OT4|: Your job is not to worry about 47% of these posts.
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what the? what?
he better have a specific time he said that 2 trillion plan, he did a good job of citing romney stuff that was said in the primaries, he better have more of that for this debate.
PistolGrip
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Damn you liberal white people! This is why the democratic party looks so weak,
"Obama didn't close Guantanamo so I am not voting for him this time around."
- Random White Guy eating at a noodle place around my job in NYC.
Dude, right now he doesn't have access to the computers. And he could make the necessary things once he does. Totally makes sense.
By the way is there a chance of his son hiring people to come and find me and kill me?
Yeah! He couldn't get it done, so I'll vote for the guy that doesn't even want to!
So...will Romney bring this up tonight?
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171941
Note: this is the same news agency that posted a story from the Onion.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171941
Note: this is the same news agency that posted a story from the Onion.
Thompson is such a joke lmao.
NullPointer
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Didn't Ryan already try the parry that it wasn't additional spending, it was a lack of a cut? And now is not the time to cut our military, etc etc. We need to have the strongest military, yadda yadda, credibility yadda yadda.
I'm sure all the MSNBC hosts will protect you ;P
Suffolk University has a tied Ohio poll. (Backpats to TPM.)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/Suffolk_OH_1022.pdf
Worth noting: every single one of the 600 voters said they were "very likely" to vote (presumably that was a cutoff question). Romney, and the GOP in general, have had a consistent lead among those "most enthusiastic" even when they lost their enthusiasm advantage in general.
Still solidly consistent with a 2-3 point lead, if not better given Suffolk's apparent GOP lean.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/Suffolk_OH_1022.pdf
Worth noting: every single one of the 600 voters said they were "very likely" to vote (presumably that was a cutoff question). Romney, and the GOP in general, have had a consistent lead among those "most enthusiastic" even when they lost their enthusiasm advantage in general.
Still solidly consistent with a 2-3 point lead, if not better given Suffolk's apparent GOP lean.
Aaron Strife
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Guess it's a safe Romney state then, like NC, FL, and VA
Oh yeah thats right they are not poling FL or NC cuz its safe for Romney.
Black Republican
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i wonder how the networks
would respond to an Obama 332-347 win?
-"Was Obama campaign too aggressive?"
-"Was america ready for a Mormon president?"
- "our polls showed Romney was the weakest gop nominee since..."
- "7.8% save the president?"
-"Why did Obama get less electoral votes than before"?
-"Do minorities hate Romney?"
-"Are women too emotional to vote?"
CNN/Fox
-"Was Obama campaign too aggressive?"
-"Was america ready for a Mormon president?"
- "our polls showed Romney was the weakest gop nominee since..."
- "7.8% save the president?"
-"Why did Obama get less electoral votes than before"?
-"Do minorities hate Romney?"
-"Are women too emotional to vote?"
Aaron Strife
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Obama wins in a squeaker.
PistolGrip
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Obama barely wins swing states. DOW down almost 100 pts.
Half and half
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Was releasing the 47% video a new low in American Politics?
Yep. Romney will try and dodge it like the first debate. It is up to Obama to hit back hard on it saying: A) This is your position as stated in the primary and on your website B) The Pentagon doesn't want nor need this funding C) If our national debt is one of the greatest risks to our economic security and well being, increasing military funding is irresponsible and unnecessary.
I understand both camps want to tamp down some of the fire from the second debate, but I think Obama needs to call Romney out forcefully on his flip flops. Make it damn clear with regards to Iran that the only other step left besides bilateral talks is war. Make it clear that getting involved militarily with Syria would be far worse than Iraq considering the intense ethnic diversity of the nation. Also hit back on how establishing a no fly zone over Syria is significantly harder than Libya considering the stronger air force at Assad's disposal and the increased number of SAM sites throughout the country. Obama needs to make it clear than labeling China a currency manipulator would invite a trade war which would cost American JOBS and hurt trade at a time when everyone is concerned about global slowdown.
IMO, Obama has the better hand this debate (even on Libya considering the recent report that the initial CIA memo attributed, as the administration has been saying all along, the initial attack in Benghazi to extremist elements in a spontaneous demonstration and it only changed later on) and he needs to hit back forcefully. Neocon foreign policy is truly the siren's song (Who doesn't want a strong America? Who doesn't want to stand up for freedom and justice? Who doesn't want to crack down on those who cheat?) and it will woo voters if it isn't forcefully called out as the contradictory BS it is.
Aaron Strife
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That makes two elections where the Kenyan barely gets in. Clearly ACORN stole it.
PistolGrip
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Damn it... Obama is one of the unluckiest coin tossers in the history of debates!
NullPointer
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I think Obama hit it right in the debate when he said this with the proper emphasis:
Obama said:
He can also mention that its immoral to launch two wars without paying for them, all while cutting taxes. War isn't cheap, in treasure or lives. That's a good setup for a more balanced, even-handed approach to Iran.
Rocket Scientist
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Huh, how is it fair to both go first and get the last word 
Baraka in the White House
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Huh, how is it fair to both go first and get the last word
Obama just needs to save a jab for the end so that Romney gets flustered and stumbles through his closer.
GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE JAHBS.
Black Mamba
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I would pay good money to be on hannitys election night audience and scream "SCOREBOARD" at him all night.
MasterShotgun
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"You decide."
PistolGrip
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I wonder If Obama wins a second term would the GOP have to work with him... He would have nothing to lose at that point. All their attacks will be wasted and risky.
electricpirate
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I'm curious if Romney is going to just run from all his former positions like the first debate. I'm really hoping Obama is prepared for a version of Mitt that flops to the center again. I think it's harder for him to do it credibly than it is in his domestic policies, but Obama better be prepared for 90 minutes of Moderate Mitt bullshit.
Ohh, and Obama better damn well bring up the fact that Romney described the Bin Laden Raid, then proceeded to say he wouldn't have gone along with it back in 2008.
Ohh, and Obama better damn well bring up the fact that Romney described the Bin Laden Raid, then proceeded to say he wouldn't have gone along with it back in 2008.
NullPointer
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Unless they are making M1 tanks. Or if Romney is president of course.
Otherwise, yep. Nothing the government does can affect jobs one way or the other. I heard that from somebody once.
Black Republican
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Cool, looks like Scott Duzer ( Florida Pizzeria bear hug man) will be in the audience for the debate
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/pizzeria-owner-who-bear-hugged-obama-invited-to
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/pizzeria-owner-who-bear-hugged-obama-invited-to
PhoenixDark
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This is like the fifth post like this. There will be nothing entertaining about what could happen if Obama wins despite inconsistent polls. We're already seeing the ground work laid for voter fraud claims, and I expect Fox to go all in with it. There certainly will be elected officials willing to testify on the subject; perhaps even a few tea party folks who lost reelection and have an axe to grind.
I want the election to be over, but I don't look forward to how ugly things will get. Sure I want to see Hannity and company throw Romney under the bus and complain about the media, but that's a different issue
Black Mamba
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I know it's wrong but I don't trust Suffolk as a pollster. Still no o e shows romney in Ohio
Omg bias!
onadesertedisland
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Got my early vote in this morning. Feels good man.
cartoon_soldier
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Why not...?
eBay Huckster
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got my ohio absentee ballot. now to fill it out and bring it downtown and wait for husted to throw it out
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
LOL. that guy is obviously voting for Obama. Unless this debate doesn't need to have the pretext of "undecided" voters.
Black Mamba
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Because they left Florida saying it is a lock. But that is insane and no reputable pollster does this. Hell pollsters still poll Cali and mass and NY.
Sorry I just can't trust anyone who leaves a swing state that many show nearly a tie. I don't trust their motives.
Like I said its wrong but I just don't trust em. For example ras has a bias but I can trust them since its consistent and unintentional.
It doesn't really matter unless they break the "shut the fuck up" rule.
Black Republican
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Al-ibn Kermit
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I don't think Obama will be unprepared for Mitt jumping to the center on defense spending or Iran, the whole Romnesia campaign is probably timed for the debate.
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