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PoliGAF 2013 |OT1| Never mind, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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The Librarian
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This lady is annoying as all get out. WE WOMEN ARE SO HELPLESS WE NEED 100-ROUND MAGAZINES TO DEFEND OURSELVES
Quote of the panel: "You are a large man." – Gayle Trotter to Sen. Whitehouse.
Quote of the panel: "You are a large man." – Gayle Trotter to Sen. Whitehouse.
Haha, yeah, and America has the benefit of needing a ton of resources just to keep our current configuration going. Figuring out where to best allocate infrastructure resources is really easy right now.
I wouldn't mind seeing it just for the sake of putting the gun lobby and overzealous gun advocates back on their heels. I don't think it's necessarily needed from a practical perspective but, from a political perspective, I'm tired of gun fetishists somehow always being granted control of the narrative with their sheer paranoia, complete lack of empathy and no sense of balance. AWB wouldn't be the end of the world, it's not a slippery slope, get over it.
A link to what?
You can't buy an m60, you can't buy an m16, you can't buy browning 50 cal, "assault weapon" is not a technical definition.
We limit your ability to purchase weapons in much more meaningful ways than anything that was ever suggested in relation to the assault rifles ban.
Black Mamba
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GDP reporters also see seemed to forget about Sandy. Pretty sure sandy hurt GDP in the 4th quarter.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
It really is.
Hah, had an interesting conversation with my boss here. It started when talking about my future job prospects (I'm a temp part time at this job), and I was talking about some studies saying that people who graduate into recessions lose upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of salary because they lose the ability to hop from job to job in the beginning.
Anyway, he said everyone got squeezed... except government employees. I responded that they were squeezed, too, but even if you didn't believe they were we really shouldn't be cheering for them to be, since that affects our GDP. If you squeeze them more then there's less potential profit for your company to gobble up. He didn't understand my explanations and said he'd never cut output because government employees were getting less. I told him yes you would if the overall economic outlook was worse, which it would be if you took out aggregate spending on all government employees. I then gave him a concrete example. I knew he did business with military contractors and even the military. I said now look, if they spent less, you'd have less to profit from, right?
He then started mumbling about how military and the government weren't the same... oh, well they are, but military is the only thing government can do right, lol. Then he started in on Obama wants to cut military but increase the size of government. Then he just decided to agree to disagree.
It was kind of funny seeing his worldview crash and burn a bit. He really didn't grasp what I was saying at all, and what pieces he did grasp he really had a hard time piecing it in.
He also threw out something about "Imagine how many employees you'd have to have per every government employee to pay for it." Yeah, that's not how it works, dude, lol.
It's really quite wondrous overall, since they do a lot of business with government facilities, and their product is a safety thing. Companies get it in order to comply with safety standards. Also, their product was invented by the goddamned French! Why they're so conservative is beyond me.
Anyway, he said everyone got squeezed... except government employees. I responded that they were squeezed, too, but even if you didn't believe they were we really shouldn't be cheering for them to be, since that affects our GDP. If you squeeze them more then there's less potential profit for your company to gobble up. He didn't understand my explanations and said he'd never cut output because government employees were getting less. I told him yes you would if the overall economic outlook was worse, which it would be if you took out aggregate spending on all government employees. I then gave him a concrete example. I knew he did business with military contractors and even the military. I said now look, if they spent less, you'd have less to profit from, right?
He then started mumbling about how military and the government weren't the same... oh, well they are, but military is the only thing government can do right, lol. Then he started in on Obama wants to cut military but increase the size of government. Then he just decided to agree to disagree.
It was kind of funny seeing his worldview crash and burn a bit. He really didn't grasp what I was saying at all, and what pieces he did grasp he really had a hard time piecing it in.
He also threw out something about "Imagine how many employees you'd have to have per every government employee to pay for it." Yeah, that's not how it works, dude, lol.
It's really quite wondrous overall, since they do a lot of business with government facilities, and their product is a safety thing. Companies get it in order to comply with safety standards. Also, their product was invented by the goddamned French! Why they're so conservative is beyond me.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
National Review: "Hispanics aren't Real Americans (tm)" also some casual racism
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/339184/pointless-amnesty-editors?pg=1
Guns don't effect people
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/339184/pointless-amnesty-editors?pg=1
Guns don't effect people
Yup. There was a lot of good news in the report, I heard on NPR the details showed income growth, though I have not had time to dig in yet.
Shadow Hog
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How exactly do I kill a man with a video game? A gun, sure, that's easy, I shoot them, but a video game? What, do I bludgeon them to death or something?
eBay Huckster
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You break the game disk(s) into pieces and repeatedly stab the man with them.
Digital download future will save lives! Steam is the only ethical way to buy a game!
Shadow Hog
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But what if it's a cartridge-based game?
eBay Huckster
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If it's an N64 or SNES cartridge, you bludgeon them.
If it's a handheld cartridge, you find another object.
CHEEZMO
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platypotamus
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Try blowing in it first!
Aaron Strife
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Just seeing a copy of GTA 4 will inspire him to join a Satanist cult and drink himself to death on rat poison.
Black Mamba
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I once shot a man in Reno because he beat me in NFL Blitz.
hopium: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2013/01/the-tectonic-impact-of-obamas-re-election.html
Obama's approval ratings
Obama's approval ratings
smokeandmirrors
Banned
skewed polls etc etc.
PhoenixDark
Banned
hopium: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2013/01/the-tectonic-impact-of-obamas-re-election.html
Obama's approval ratings
So he'll be at 47% favorable in the summer
"because video games affect people"
Oh I see what he's saying, because guns do not affect people. Well duh. I think we've all learned something very special today.
NYCmetsfan
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Guys did you know Obama single handedly stoped the previous imigration bill? Lets hope he doesn''t stand in the way of good hearted republicans this time!
Black Mamba
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I saw someone on Fox News the other night try to claim that the last bill was stopped by Obama alone.
hilarious stuff.
PhoenixDark
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The bill he voted for lol
I wouldn't be able to deal with Graham's shit, I'm glad I'm not Obama.
NYCmetsfan
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Same guy thats over in the OT?
jamesinclair
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TacticalFox88
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I wonder if, after his Presidency, Obama is going to tactfully shit on every Republican asshole who tried to sabotage the country out of spite and hatred for him.
Black Mamba
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It was a woman, IIRC, so no.
I'm sure they got their talking points from the same source, though.
Tactfully?
I'm pretty sure America's love of the second amendment and guns in general predates the founding of the country and seems to have ties to protestants gaining the 'right' retain guns and to defend themselves in Britain. Although I have no doubt gun manufacturers want to paint owning a gun in the best light possible, and has marketed itself extensively.
Frankly, I think the 2nd amendment is detrimental to the sustained health of the nation. It was a stupid and pointless right when it was added, and will only get more pointless as technology advances.
It seems that bad GDP number isn't that bad, really:
http://www.businessweek.com/article...dot-s-dot-economy-is-primed-to-expand#r=hp-ls
http://www.businessweek.com/article...dot-s-dot-economy-is-primed-to-expand#r=hp-ls
I really need to finish my DHP post on the second amendment and the stupidity of DC v Heller, but I have so much work
Sixty-seven percent of self-identified [Texas] Republicans and 39 percent of all of those polled believe the president should be impeached.
Gotta say that's pretty surprising.
Gotta say that's pretty surprising.
That the number is so low, amirite?
Impeached for what, exactly?
I know you were joking, but I am shocked that the number wasn't higher. First time I've been pleasantly surprised by Texas, my expectations had to be lower that you could even imagine but still.
Shadow Hog
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Existing?
NYCmetsfan
Banned
MHP just pointed out that we have the first white male secretary of state in 20 (since '97 so a little less) years.....
socialism
socialism
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Presiding while Black.
I really need to finish my DHP post on the second amendment and the stupidity of DC v Heller, but I have so much work
After reading the Stevens dissent for that I'm not entirely sure what more can be said. He sold things pretty thoroughly to me.
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The Autumn Wind
I wonder how many moderates even "self-identify" as Republicans anymore.
soul creator
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Just read it over myself. To summarize:
*multiple pages of wrecking Scalia's shit with facts...aww snap, that's how you do historical analysis of the Framers' intent...English muthafucka, do you speak it...militias, militias, militias...why the hell are you just making shit up about hunting and self-defense out of thin air, Scalia...
"...For these reasons, I respectfully dissent."
The Librarian
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The majority of them (it appears) don't. Look at the surge of independent registration over the last year and look at the drop in Republican ID.
NYCmetsfan
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lol great summary.
Bolded the best part of the argument. There is NOTHING about self defense or hunting in the consitution. That is a common law thing and a very respectable thing but its not in the constitution. That can be the bases for laws but it doesn't preclude states from limiting weapons.
Giant Panda
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I've read Scalia's decision, and a summary of Stevens dissent and I have to completely disagree.
Shadow Hog
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...Disagree with which?
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