I can't help but disagree with him there. If the Pats are going to make it so will the Giants. The Giants have the need to stop Brady from getting another ring hardwired into their DNA upon signing their contracts. It's instinctual, they can't help themselves. There's no fighting it.
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I can't help but disagree with him there. If the Pats are going to make it so will the Giants. The Giants have the need to stop Brady from getting another ring hardwired into their DNA upon signing their contracts. It's instinctual, they can't help themselves. There's no fighting it.
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The Autumn Wind
I'm curious if he still thinks the Pats will make the Super Bowl considering all their offseason problems.
PhoenixDark
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I'm not sure football can be predicted like that, given how dangerous the game is and the injuries involved. Obviously since April a lot of things have changed, including the Pats losing one of their best players (who would be a welcome addition to my Detroit Lions if he is found innocent).
It seems like baseball is a better sports for metrics.
It seems like baseball is a better sports for metrics.
Avon Barksdale
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His Seahawks/Patriots prediction was back in January during the playoffs.
Black Mamba
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Football Outsiders (who he cites) is so often off because Football is very volatile. Injuries are common and change the complexion so much. Furthermore, schedule are unbalanced and thus mediocre teams can sneak into the playoffs while above average teams get screwed.
Plus, scoring is so low (even if you score 35 points it's really just 5 scores) that 1 random bounce has a huge effect on the score and this can't be predicted in such small sample sizes.
baseball is much easier because it's 162 games and like what, over 700 at bats for regular starters and 250+ innings for starting pitchers. This are huge sample sizes. And on offense no single player has the same effect as in any other sport I can come up with.
Basketball is more predictable as well. A injury to a star player will have more effect than in football but they are also less common and there are 5 times as many games.
Avon Barksdale
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Just what Detroit needs, another crook.
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Oh, was it? The video is labeled as Super Bowl 2014 predictions and the video was uploaded in April, so I figured he was talking about the upcoming season.
Fixed.
PhoenixDark
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I think he could keep the team in line. Who better to scare the locker room into some sense of professionalism than a guy who may or may not have killed someone.
Scumbag Fox News anchor tries to get Scumbag Zimmerman's brother to criticize Obama. The result? Scumbug Zimmerman's brother doesn't take the bait. Seven times.
Fox Tried Seven Times to Get the Brother of Zimmerman to Criticize Obama (It Didn't Work)
Truly Scumbag Fox News.
Fox Tried Seven Times to Get the Brother of Zimmerman to Criticize Obama (It Didn't Work)
Truly Scumbag Fox News.
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Not surprising at all, but I have to give Robert credit for handling that very well.
RustyNails
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Fox has simply no shame left. They have been trying to peddle "obama is a racist" meme since who knows when. Just drop it...
Avon Barksdale
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:jnc
:jnc
People in Virginia are probably glad she's running in Wyoming.
I'm more surprised he didn't jump at the chance to critique Obama than Fox doing their usual shit.
My mind is full of fuck.
Frank the Great
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He was probably well coached by his lawyer. If he gives in to the obvious Fox race-baiting and politicization then it makes him and his brother look even more horrible.
Also, Fox is embarrassing. Christ.
Also, Fox is embarrassing. Christ.
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So good :jnc
Nate Silver is leaving NYTimes for ESPN. And is taking 538 with him. 538 will revert back to being a baseball focused predictive blog for ESPN. However he'll stay on at ABC News as a political correspondent during election times.
Sounds like 2012 drained him, will be sad to not have his data for 2016.
Sounds like 2012 drained him, will be sad to not have his data for 2016.
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I'm sure he'll still do election data for ABC.
Likely to not to the same massive extent since his ABC gig is more of a side job and the actual 538 blog is moving to ESPN.
Avon Barksdale
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We still have Sam Wang to fall back on.
More like it gives him something to do in off election years.
The 538 blog is ESPN's. I mean how much analysis can he do as a on air talent during election seasons for a non-cable network? It won't be the same massive daily number crunching for sure.
PhoenixDark
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Sam Wang does very similar work and was as accurate in 2012 iirc. I'm sure Silver will drop articles here or there during elections, which sounds more appealing than a daily release of information.
Avon Barksdale
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Wang got Florida wrong, but Florida was pretty damn close too.
Shadow Hog
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Don't worry, we'll always have Dick Morris!
PhoenixDark
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Can't wait for Cheney's reaction. Although, polling a place like Wyoming seems rather challenging, especially for a primary election that likely won't have high turnout. Reading around the internets, I get the general sense that Enzi is well liked in Wyoming, and is not the Orrin Hatch type of republican that Cheney will paint him as: a RINO who works with democrats too often. It's true Enzi works in a bipartisan fashion on many issues, but they aren't the type of issues that rile up republicans.
She's going to be hitting him hard, as her petty comments about him being "confused" showed. I don't think Wyoming is going to appreciate that, but then again if her father, Sarah Palin, etc do rallies for her who knows.
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Avon Barksdale
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Don't worry, we'll always have Dick Morris!
I like how Morris had New Mexico going for Obama in that sea of red.
Bitter tears over Obama's speech yesterday.
My mind is full of fuck.
These are the people that the Republicans are pandering to currently. These are the people responsible for the current crop of crazy cray Republicans.
I find it funny, though, how Liberals are claiming racism by whites against blacks, and Conservatives are claiming racism by blacks against white... And people said racism was dead. Kappa
My mind is full of fuck.
These are the people that the Republicans are pandering to currently. These are the people responsible for the current crop of crazy cray Republicans.
I find it funny, though, how Liberals are claiming racism by whites against blacks, and Conservatives are claiming racism by blacks against white... And people said racism was dead. Kappa
PhoenixDark
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I have watched a bit of the coverage on the far right and it's pure incitement. As a rule, if you expect black people to riot whenever they don't get what they want....you're making a racist statement. There have been very few "riots" since the early 90s. I remember people claiming Christopher Dorner was going to cause black people to riot.
Obama gave a very cautious, honest speech and it's been positively received by everyone except Fox and the far right. Even Zimmerman's brother thought it was fine. I think republicans have been trying to tie Obama to "black rage" for 6 years, and it has failed to work because most Americans see the difference between Obama and the ambulance chasers like Jesse Jackson; there's a reason Jackson has shat on Obama in the past: Obama doesn't have the same mindset and refuses to just be the black president instead of the president of the United States.
Frank the Great
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Don't worry, we'll always have Dick Morris!
Seeing this has reminded me of how the scales are tipped so heavily in the Democrats' favor in 2016. Hillary only needs to win the solid blue states and she wins, the Republican would need to sweep every swing state and steal a blue state.
empty vessel
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Am I the only one that's uncomfortable when people like Jesse Jackson get dismissed so easily? Black leaders get character assassinated from the racist right, and I can't help but feel when liberal-minded people join in they do themselves no favors and even unwittingly give an assist to the racism driving the character assassination. It doesn't make sense to me to compare Jackson to Obama. Jackson's role is advocate, Obama's is president. Of course Jackson will criticize, that's his job as an advocate for certain causes and people. And of course Obama won't just be a president for black people, because that's not his job.
PD, what has Jackson done to make him an irredeemable asshole in your eyes? (I'm not coming at this as a fan or supporter of Jackson, just trying to figure out why otherwise liberal people seem to go out of their way to (what seems to me) needlessly bash him.)
PD, what has Jackson done to make him an irredeemable asshole in your eyes? (I'm not coming at this as a fan or supporter of Jackson, just trying to figure out why otherwise liberal people seem to go out of their way to (what seems to me) needlessly bash him.)
empty vessel
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Agreed.
PhoenixDark
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I think Jackson, and Sharpton to a higher degree, embarrass black people with their histrionics and ambulance chasing. They both have constantly tied themselves to what I deem to be frivolous or trumped up cases of racism while spending very little time working inside black communities on other issues. These are problems I have with the NAACP as well, and why I'm currently banned from the local NAACP lmao.
I'm upset about the Martin case obviously, most of us in this thread are. And while the case is finished, I think there are things that can be done in the future to address this such as fighting Stand Your Ground laws and ousting as many republicans as possible in Florida. Meanwhile Jesse Jackson has declared the state of Florida an "apartheid state" which strikes me as ridiculous, and just the type of outrageous statement that has defined much of his career since the late 80s.
I give Jackson credit at least for not being late to the party on the issue of AIDs in the black community, he's been very consistent on it and I appreciate his work there.
zero shift
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The problem I have with most of the prominent black intellectual figures in this country is that such few of them seem to acknowledge that there is a significant problem with the black community. Yes I realize that racism is still incredibly present today in which you see with the discrepancy in arrests and hiring processes. However I feel that much of them don't focus on some of the core problems with much of the black community. You can scream "Racism!" all you want, but when you have South American level homicides in your community, half of black males not graduating high school on time, 3/4ths of births happening out of wedlock, and what not clearly the problem is bigger then racism. I recall Bill Cosby spoke out about this and was attacked with pitchforks by a share of the black community.
el retorno
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That's because that speech gave ammo to racists. I've seen it used on my facebook to excuse racism. It also made absurd points about things like "black names" holding blacks back.
Or, alternately, you have no sense of history, and racism has been endemic in America for two hundred years.
When people grow up in a culture of racism, attempt to find ways to survive in a culture of racism, and raise those children in a culture of racism, you get apparently maladaptive cultural practices. Then you can say "Oh, it's their fault for having maladaptive cultural practices!" But the idea that a group of people would just naturally develop a self-destructive culture for no apparent reason is itself both racist and ignorant. Much like a hardened cell wall, that culture is a response to outside aggression.
If you're an African-American male who tried to be successful by going to high school and working hard, and societal racism prevented you from being successful, are you going to teach your children that going to high school and working hard is the path to success? Will they learn that from observing you?
el retorno
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This is an awesome paragraph
PhoenixDark
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Agreed. There was plenty of truth in what he said, but there was also a lot of ignorance and victim blaming. I've heard some argue that Cosby purposely made it outrageous to stir debate, and ultimately doesn't believe some of the more "out there" stuff he said.
But zero shift mirrors some of the views I expressed earlier. Racism exists, there's no denying it. And clearly the pain of the past plays a role in some of the violence and poverty we see in black communities, as Obama said. Still, there's a whole lot more we can do for ourselves, than is being done right now. I hope Obama continues to toss around ideas about how to address this, and ways to bring other people into the fold. Plenty of celebrities and athletes already give to charities, inner city schools, etc. but surely more time and effort can be spent. Obama giving a speech to a Chicago school isn't going to change anything, but perhaps Obama (and others) spending more time face to face with kids will. Or athletes that don't just give a random check, but buy school supplies for a local school. Or offer to participate in sports activities if the school's teams maintain a certain GPA. I'm just throwing out ideas. I'm glad Obama is too.
zero shift
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This isn't the point I was getting at. I never even so much as implied the bolded. Even in that very post I started it off saying that yes there are some very significant forms of racism today. What I was getting at is that the statistics have no reason to be THIS bad. There is no excuse for having South American homicide rates period. There is no excuse to have such broken families. And again I'm sure that modern racism contributes much too this, but the general point is that things shouldn't be bad to this extent. There is clearly some problems within the culture that as a whole the community doesn't recognize as it should. I don't see how saying this is controversial.
Do you honestly believe that half of those kids wouldn't be doing better in life if they performed well in school?
This is true he did say some silly things and I often see racists on facebook using it. However it does touch on certain points that often don't get addressed.
The Civil Rights Act was less then half a century ago. I'm not going to deny that it would be unrealistic to have blacks close the black/white gap in less than fifty years. However there is a lot of work that could be done. Its sad because during the 60s the black community seemed to be heading in a very socialistic direction. To end on a higher note things are improving. That 52% of black males graduating school on time is shockingly an improvement from twenty years ago. Homicide rates have been at a freefall for twenty years. Black owned businesses are rapidly increasing. Etc. Its not like that community is jogging in place. Still though there could be improvement.
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All the states that voted more Democratic than the nation as a whole add up to 285 electoral votes. For everyone who points out how demographics will eventually make Texas into a swing state, the real transformation will be when Virginia, Florida and North Carolina are solid blue states. I think eventually, the GOP will start making inroads in the Midwest - Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan - but none of those states are budging. Romney aggressively campaigned in all of them and Obama won all of them by at least five points.
Avon Barksdale
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Pennsylvania isn't a Midwestern state.
PhoenixDark
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Drugs ravaging inner cities, redlining, white flight.
Frank the Great
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Yeah, the nice part is that with FL/NC/VA, Democrats don't even need the midwest states you mentioned. With respect to PA, though, let's be real here . . . Philadelphia is going to keep the state blue for the foreseeable future.
Black Mamba
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what was interesting was Obama's remarks were quite balanced. Those that took up arms against his remarks basically proven themselves to either be racists or simply parroting the lines of racist/political opportunists instead of looking to what he actually said.
I saw a tweet from a conservative radio host that bitched about Obama talking about blacks being disproportionate victims of crime but not mentioning that they disproportionately make crime. Only, Obama did state that in his remarks. He simply never bothered to read/listen to them.
these people loathe Obama to an unhealthy extent.
I saw a tweet from a conservative radio host that bitched about Obama talking about blacks being disproportionate victims of crime but not mentioning that they disproportionately make crime. Only, Obama did state that in his remarks. He simply never bothered to read/listen to them.
these people loathe Obama to an unhealthy extent.
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