NYCmetsfan
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I really can't believe the GOP is doing this. I really thought they'd avoid this.
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PhoenixDark
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Remember when the John Birch Society suggested Ike was a Manchurian Candidate for the Communists?
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thepotatoman
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I apparently keep being completely wrong. I heard about the Hastert Rule before, but never really thought much about it.
This situation is a lesson to me how important that rule is. I first thought Boehner only needed 17 out of 233 republicans to join him to avoid shutdown. Turns out he needs 117.
PhoenixDark
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Agreed. He just noted something we've discussed before
He undoubtedly had everyone excited today...but right now things are looking like a circus. And if the CR passes tonight, in a week when he starts the retreat a lot of members will be furious.
Ultimately I think this was the plan though. His job is more secure if he falls on his sword after a tough battle. Boehner isn't dumb, he no doubt realizes this farce will end in failure. But at least his guys will be able to say he fought the good fight.
zero shift
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The GOP can't tame their crazy side. The Tea Party doesn't give a fuck, they will do almost anything to reach their goals of a rebirth of Pinochet's Chile with some Jesus sprinkled on top.
NYCmetsfan
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Probably the Utah rep at minimum.
I think people are missing how much this congress is a radical change from precedent. This is a amazingly radical change in budgeting and process in the house. -
republicans who happen to be pro-choice.
PhoenixDark
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Heritage is opposed to the medical device tax defund, and also seems to not support an Obamacare delay
http://heritageaction.com/press-releases/heritage-action-statement-on-houses-obamacare-delay/
Madness. I think the House is going to pass the Obamacare delay, but if they don't I might never stop laughing.
http://heritageaction.com/press-releases/heritage-action-statement-on-houses-obamacare-delay/
Madness. I think the House is going to pass the Obamacare delay, but if they don't I might never stop laughing.
NYCmetsfan
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This really is a war for their soul.
cartoon_soldier
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Remember how Obama said he would cut the deficit by half in 4 years. It look a bit longer...but it has happened. Not that it was the right thing to do, but still...
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/deficit-falling-falling-falling
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/deficit-falling-falling-falling
NYCmetsfan
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"@sahilkapur: 248-174, House votes to repeal Obamacare's medical device tax in the CR. It'd raise the deficit by $29 billion."
#deficit#deficit#deficit
#deficit#deficit#deficit
Carpe Libertatem
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As if those Democrats are pro-choice lol.
Aaron Strife
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A big reason the deficit is falling is because the economy is improving, which means the government is getting more tax receipts and spending less on unemployment/welfare. Not to say that Obama hasn't had a hand in cutting the deficit with shit like the sequester, but there are positive indicators for the deficit dropping.Remember how Obama said he would cut the deficit by half in 4 years. It look a bit longer...but it has happened. Not that it was the right thing to do, but still...
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/deficit-falling-falling-falling
zero shift
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Remember how Obama said he would cut the deficit by half in 4 years. It look a bit longer...but it has happened. Not that it was the right thing to do, but still...
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/deficit-falling-falling-falling
Such a pointless measurement.
PhoenixDark
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yup
Aaron Strife
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Just in case anyone forgot why Republicans want to repeal Obamacare
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-1993-kristol-memo-on-defeating-health-care-reform
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-1993-kristol-memo-on-defeating-health-care-reform
NYCmetsfan
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rocketknight
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This is hilarious. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEWSROOM'S TAKE.
Carpe Libertatem
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DC has enough funds in reserve for one pay period, so the government can shut down for 2 weeks without it being a problem afaik
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thepotatoman
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No kidding. This is why it's so important for the dems to hold steadfast and not allow even the smallest of compromise now, even if it's one they're willing to give, and for the American public to direct their anger in the right direction.
If Republicans come out of this with nothing to show but a lower approval rating, then this won't happen again. If they do find some sort of gain, then our government has just became much more unstable.
On the other side, I think Republicans might see this as the last stand against Obamacare, so who knows, maybe this one will be a record breaking doozy. I don't know what to expect anymore if Boehner has completely lost control.
Maybe the mint should start getting ready to print that trillion dollar coin. We might need it if republicans continue like this into the debt ceiling.
NYCmetsfan
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My understanding is even with their funds they can't spend them without authorizing legislation.
Carpe Libertatem
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The reserve fund has already been properly appropriated by Congress and is therefore available for use by the District, or so the DC Attorney General argues
Even Issa says Congress wouldn't pursue any charges against DC should it use its reserve funds to keep personnel on
Still ridiculous that it has to use the reserve fund though
Mississippi has been passing one year delays of the 13th amendment taking effect in Mississippi every year since 1863.
NYCmetsfan
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Ok that makes me feel a hit better but yeah this whole charade is sad
Carpe Libertatem
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If nothing else, it seems like it could be a good opportunity to show the country why D.C. should get statehood! :lol
NYCmetsfan
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ClassyPenguin
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Stephanie Kelton once said how it's more disappointing and damaging to see Democrats as deficit hawks than Republicans.
freenudemacusers
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I depend on military pay and I think it's gross. This shit is annoying EVERY TIME it happens.
NYCmetsfan
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Why are the dems shutting down the government?
They're unwilling to compromise!
jamesinclair
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Obama is a traitor he wants to not pay our military men
PhoenixDark
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He also said that GOP leadership has not been discussing the Vitter amendment, which some commentators speculated could be the last ditch try.
rocketknight
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lol
RustyNails
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Boehner has proven himself to be utterly impotent in the face of teaparty. Is this the legacy he wants to take with him?
Black Republican
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Matheson and McIntyre dems voted with gop
NYCmetsfan
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I'm in a bar with grijalva, lol
It's sad. The tail is wagging the dog, and he's helping it happen.
NihonTiger90
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Boehner's archetypical of the kind of Republicans that come from solid R districts around here: Township officials or businesspeople getting to congressional office and then working their way up to a point at which they become exposed as unable to do their job.
Just took Boehner a lot, lot longer to get to that point.
Just took Boehner a lot, lot longer to get to that point.
ClassyPenguin
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And posting on gaf? For shame.
NYCmetsfan
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His legacy is he never was voted out
What am I supposed to do, post selfies?
ClassyPenguin
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Which is frustrating since contraception and birth control are a medical issue.
He's incapable of doing his job. He's incapable of whipping the Tea Party crazies into shape because of his (sometimes flimsy) adherence to the Hastert Rule.
He's a horrible speaker, but he's the wrong man to lead this Republican caucus. I'm just not sure if there is one in office right now who could. It's certainly not Cantor.
For some reason I missed the Hastert Rule being a thing. I dunno, it feels like that shit should be illegal
Costa is weird. He's an editor for the NRO, but he's on MSNBC all the time and hearing him speak, you would never think the dude's even a Republican, let alone one who works for one of the biggest right-wing news outlets.
You guys see SNL?
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/breaking...enberg-on-lack-of-obamacare-in-snl-cold-open/
Was pretty decent. But I also mention it cause of another important reason. This was the first time they parodied Ted Cruz, and his portrayal means that he's fucked up any chances of being president. Or at the very least, being taken "seriously" a la Paul Ryan.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/breaking...enberg-on-lack-of-obamacare-in-snl-cold-open/
Was pretty decent. But I also mention it cause of another important reason. This was the first time they parodied Ted Cruz, and his portrayal means that he's fucked up any chances of being president. Or at the very least, being taken "seriously" a la Paul Ryan.
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