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I must admit I got the question wrong: for some reason David Brooks came to mind instead of Rubin. Probably has to do with me not reading or paying attention to anything Rubin writes outside of twitter.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
I must admit I got the question wrong: for some reason David Brooks came to mind instead of Rubin. Probably has to do with me not reading or paying attention to anything Rubin writes outside of twitter.

Nah, if it were Brooks it would come off as more concern trolling-ish, not obnoxiously acerbic. He wouldn't be straight up attacking Obama, but lamenting how he hasn't been able to change the culture in Washington like he promised. :(
 
Nah, if it were Brooks it would come off as more concern trolling-ish, not obnoxiously acerbic. He wouldn't be straight up attacking Obama, but lamenting how he hasn't been able to change the culture in Washington like he promised. :(

Yup, I really brain farted. I have David Brooks on the brain, I guess.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
This one's pretty great too. I mean, aside from the fact that we had the slowest rate of job growth since WWII during Bush's 2 terms, there was that whole financial crash thing that wiped away almost all of the gains he received during that time. It's like someone bragging about their academic success in high school cause their freshman year was pretty decent, while ignoring the fact that they stopped going to class for the remaining 3 years.

It's like bragging about your grades within a pass/fail system and still not graduating.
 

Jooney

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I can't wait to see what hypocritical, non-sensical justification tea partiers have for supporting Cruz for president. Probably something about Canada being closer to the US than Kenya.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
None except the anthrax attacks, pipe bombings, shooting up El Al's ticket counter, beltway sniper, etc.

That's just off the top of my head.

The framing in that quote implies that 9/11 doesn't count against Bush's record beacuse, well just because. His record is great so long as you don't count the single worst terrorist attack in US history. Rubin seems totally oblivious to the cherry picking.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
I can't wait to see what hypocritical, non-sensical justification tea partiers have for supporting Cruz for president. Probably something about Canada being closer to the US than Kenya.

I'm gonna go with Canada being less socialist than Kenya.
 

Mike M

Nick N
The framing in that quote implies that 9/11 doesn't count against Bush's record beacuse, well just because. His record is great so long as you don't count the single worst terrorist attack in US history. Rubin seems totally oblivious to the cherry picking.
They're just skipping past the part where they think 9/11 was because of cuts Clinton made and how Bush's security build up kept us safe until it was dismantled by Obama to fund his Obamaphone program.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
They're just skipping past the part where they think 9/11 was because of cuts Clinton made and how Bush's security build up kept us safe until it was dismantled by Obama to fund his Obamaphone program.

Wonder how they justify ignoring the whole "AL QAEDA DETERMINED TO ATTACK" thing.
 
I'm going to say Malkin. But it could be a number of people. EDIT: Whoops, wrong.

I also like the two huuuuuuge gaps she is leaving out:

"After 9/11*, no terrorists attacks!" - *9/11 biggest terrorist attack on US, under Bush's watch
"7 1/2 year* of economic growth!" - *suffered biggest recession of the past 60 years in last 1/2 year of his presidency.

Keep fuckin that chicken.
It is worse than that. Even those weasel words are not true. What about the Anthrax attack?

The Belt-way sniper attack?

I guess those don't count anymore?
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
It is worse than that. Even those weasel words are not true. What about the Anthrax attack?

The Belt-way sniper attack?

I guess those don't count anymore?

Those weren't terrorist attacks because they weren't done by brown people who worship Allah.

I am literally (not literally, I cleaned it up a lot) quoting someone on that, I pulled a grandpa simpson when I heard it.
 
Those weren't terrorist attacks because they weren't done by brown people who worship Allah.

I am literally (not literally, I cleaned it up a lot) quoting someone on that, I pulled a grandpa simpson when I heard it.

I don't doubt someone said that. But yet again, they are wrong. I think the Beltway sniper was a brown person that worshipped Allah.
 

Chichikov

Member
Uh...

Is this like Christians who claim that Mormons don't really follow Christ?
The LDS are closer to mainstream christianity (however you want to define it) than the Nation of Islam is to mainstream Islam (however you want to define it).
 

User 406

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I can't wait to see what hypocritical, non-sensical justification tea partiers have for supporting Cruz for president. Probably something about Canada being closer to the US than Kenya.

My money is on some variation of "Well, Cruz never tried to hide it!"
 
Rumors circling that CNN is reviving Crossfire...with Newt Gingrich and Stephanie Cutter.

It's like they read my fucking mind.
Why would anyone think this is a good idea?

Oh wait

cnn.jpg
 
I know it's black supremacist, but it also claims to follow Allah, the five pillars of Islam, etc. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that it does have something to do with Islam.
Except Allah is the Black Man and Allah stands for Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head of the Black Man.

They have mishmashed pieces of traditional Islamic theology and principles here and there because Wallace Fard Muhammad knew bits and pieces of Islam and wanted to start something new combined with his own personal beliefs.

This is quite seriously the only place I've been on the internet that even entertains the idea that NoI is somehow tied to traditional Islam.
Yakub (sometimes spelled Yacub or Yakob) is, according to the Nation of Islam, a black scientist who lived "6,600 years ago" and was responsible for creating the white race to be a "race of devils". The Nation of Islam theology claims that Yakub is the biblical Jacob. Traditional Muslims do not have this belief, or anything similar to it.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Christians don't typically believe in a pre-existence council where Lucifer and Jesus debated over how God's children would return to him after going to Earth either.

Any major religion has its wacky splinter groups that don't really represent the main group.
 
I mean, ok, but you're sort of contradicting yourself. They used a lot of traditional Islamic theology and principles, but they're somehow completely unrelated?
Where did I say they used a lot of traditional theology and principles? I said their founder used some shit he knew about the religion to create his own racial supremacist nonsense. It's about as related to Abrahamic faiths as Scientology because at least L Ron Hubbard believed Jesus was a high level thetan. So yes, in a strictly literal sense it's related. But not so much when it comes to religiously related. In any case, this diverted from the DC Sniper topic and these are quotes on why DC Sniper did what he did:
According to Malvo's confession, he and Muhammad had planned to kill six white people a day for a month in order "to terrorize the nation."[3]
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According to Craig Cooley, one of Malvo's defense attorneys, Malvo believed Muhammad when he told him that the $10 million ransom sought from the US government to stop the sniper killings would be used to establish a Utopian society for one hundred and forty homeless black children on a Canadian compound.[4]
 
He didn't worship Allah. He was Nation of Islam member.
Uh...
Is this like Christians who claim that Mormons don't really follow Christ?
For the purposes of wide brushes this doesn't make a difference, even without going into whether such a distinction has actual merit.
The LDS are closer to mainstream christianity (however you want to define it) than the Nation of Islam is to mainstream Islam (however you want to define it).
NoI doesn't have anything to do with the Abrahamic faith of Islam. It's a black supremacist theology.
I know it's black supremacist, but it also claims to follow Allah, the five pillars of Islam, etc. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that it does have something to do with Islam.
Except Allah is the Black Man and Allah stands for Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head of the Black Man.
They have mishmashed pieces of traditional Islamic theology and principles here and there because Wallace Fard Muhammad knew bits and pieces of Islam and wanted to start something new combined with his own personal beliefs.
This is quite seriously the only place I've been on the internet that even entertains the idea that NoI is somehow tied to traditional Islam.
Sounds like inverted Mormonism.
I mean, ok, but you're sort of contradicting yourself. They used a lot of traditional Islamic theology and principles, but they're somehow completely unrelated?
Christians don't typically believe in a pre-existence council where Lucifer and Jesus debated over how God's children would return to him after going to Earth either.
Any major religion has its wacky splinter groups that don't really represent the main group.
Where did I say they used a lot of traditional theology and principles? I said their founder used some shit he knew about the religion to create his own racial supremacist nonsense. It's about as related to Abrahamic faiths as Scientology because at least L Ron Hubbard believed Jesus was a high level thetan. So yes, in a strictly literal sense it's related. But not so much when it comes to religiously related. In any case, this diverted from the DC Sniper topic and these are quotes on why DC Sniper did what he did:

Well I'm pretty sure the Nation of Islam would count for the guy who said "Those weren't terrorist attacks because they weren't done by brown people who worship Allah". ;-)

Such a great example of the difference between the straightforward (but inaccurate and over-simplified) conservative thinking and the hyper-nuanced liberal over-analysis.
 
Rumors circling that CNN is reviving Crossfire...with Newt Gingrich and Stephanie Cutter.

It's like they read my fucking mind.

I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk about their ratings since the bombing tragedy. Best they've had in awhile and their big attractions were not doing so great up until then.
 
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