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The Autumn Wind
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TacticalFox88
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http://www.politicususa.com/harry-reid-mocks-republicans-unable-budget-fear-tea-party-revolt.html
The irony is enough to fill an Olympic pool.
The irony is enough to fill an Olympic pool.
RoninChaos
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WU-TANG, WU-TANG.
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The Autumn Wind
"We were voted in by the people to govern, but we don't want to get voted out, so we're going to avoid not only doing anything, but even admitting we want to do anything."
My head hurts.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-april-23-2013/gun-control---political-suicide?xrs=share_copy
Pathetic display of what political values seem to actually be.
Pathetic display of what political values seem to actually be.
PhoenixDark
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Did he? He won one (souther) primary and then imploded. The majority of his cash on hand came from one donor...
The only period where Romney truly looked vunerable (as in "wow he just might lose" vunerable) was when Perry entered the race, and we know what happened immediately afterwards.
TacticalFox88
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I still wonder how far the Cain train would've went without the scandal.
It's amazing looking back at how the GOP LITERALLY went through EVERYONE winning before they finally set upon letting Romney have the nomination.
Avon Barksdale
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I thought it was hilarious when Newt won South Carolina.
smokeandmirrors
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It was like watching elementary kids avoiding picking someone that they don't like when drafting teams for kickball. It was hilarious.
Huntsman am cry.
Aaron Strife
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It was amazing how quickly the narrative turned from "Romney could be the first candidate to win all 3 states!" to Romney losing Iowa by like 6 votes and Newt winning SC.
Romney was always a terrible candidate.
Avon Barksdale
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TacticalFox88
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Glorious.
RustyNails
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That PPP poll is further going to prove my theory that Bioshock Infinite's Columbia is based on New Hampshire.
ClovingWestbrook
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My wet dream would include a Ron Paul/ Ted Cruz dticket
Oh god. Oh man. Oh god. Oh man.
That's all fun and games until there's another terrible recession and they manage to get into office.
ClovingWestbrook
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Ahh, yes. Rand. I forgot that he and his father aren't the same person.
Sad but true. =(
TacticalFox88
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Politically, they might as well be.
ClovingWestbrook
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It's going to be so fun watching whoever the GOP nominee ends up being attempt to become moderate in the general election. I wonder if we'll get another McCain/Romney moderate who goes full crazy in the primaries only to be screwed in general OR if the GOP will go full conservative from the beginning.
Isn't it New Hampshire that has their conservative side dominated by libertarians? Not really too surprising.
TacticalFox88
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The GOP is in a catch 22 because of their own stupidity and Fox News.
jamesinclair
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RustyNails
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Huffpost's dynamic updating of the site as you're reading/scrolling is an abomination. Who the hell thought the stories should get removed/updated as you're reading them? Java gone wild.
PhoenixDark
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Pretty much. The far right took the state GOP over in 2010. Which means republicans basically have three early state primaries (Iowa, NH, SC) that could be won by an extremist candidate. Brilliant.
The biggest takeaway from that GOP "autopsy" should have been that the party's nomination process is bad. Iowa and NH aren't particularly liberal or conservative states overall, but the local GOP parties in both states are extremist due to a vocal group of far right voters; so in order to win those states a candidate has to win over that vocal minority of loud, activist voters - thus turning off the rest of the state; Romney was never truly competitive during the general election in Iowa, and Obama had a modest NH lead from the beginning. Then you have South Carolina, a southern state dominated by gutter politics (see: McCain's black baby, Gingrich's 2012 debate performance theater, etc).
So yea, a Ted Cruz type could indeed win all of these states, and be on the fast track to the nomination before the establishment GOP could stop him. Republicans have a pretty nice bench of establishment types for 2016 though, so it won't be a walk in the park for Cruz per se...plus I think Rand Paul is more talented (and more American /birther).
Avon Barksdale
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New Hampshire is a weird state.
The Librarian
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Black Mamba
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Saw it and it was hilarious.
ClovingWestbrook
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To be fair rocket, God founded this country and chose George Washington to be the salvation for those persecuted new settlers. We know this because he provided Africans and Native Americans the gift of going from savages to near complete human beings. This country unlike any other in the history of the world was inspired by Jesus Christ and therefore it makes God cry when we have such evil as those Moslems who pray to their Mohammeds and their demonz. It's imperative that we who are the pure Americans defend this country from those Anti-Christs. Freedom of religion doesn't apply to non Christians and those Jesus inspired founding fathers would agree wholeheartedly.
The Librarian
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Ha. In my model Congress today I was arguing that government spending creates jobs, and the dude representing Justin Amash went up and said it's bad because we could essentially pay people to dig holes and fill them up.
I yelled out-loud, "So what?" In my head I thought that, so long as they get paid to do that and spend that money elsewhere, I'm completely fine with it.
I yelled out-loud, "So what?" In my head I thought that, so long as they get paid to do that and spend that money elsewhere, I'm completely fine with it.
rocketknight
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Absolutely. It may be offensive to some sensibilities, but I think all Real Americans understand that the First Amendment (among others, but never the Second) is nuanced and that we are called to apply it in a manner consistent with the Christian values our founding fathers intended.
platypotamus
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The series has been absolutely fantastic. When they said "part 2 of our 3 part series" I kind of yipped in excitement. I hadn't realized yesterday was getting a sequel, and tomorrow(?) I get another one.
They deserve some legit awards for these.
Watching the GOP whine about FAA cuts is incredible. Cuts caused by the sequester, the very same sequester that they argued is needed and won't be a big deal any way. And now that the pain of the sequester is really beginning to take shape, which, by the way, Obama warned about and was mock for by the right, they bitch about Obama and complain that he's cutting TOO much or recklessly, and is doing it for political gain.
Black Mamba
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Rand Paul Flip-Flops on Drones!
So, where are the "Rand is being admirable" people regarding his filibuster, now?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/rand-paul-drones_n_3140850.html
So, where are the "Rand is being admirable" people regarding his filibuster, now?
Fenderputty
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What an asshole.
Dominican Power
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I need to watch more of Colbert.
Eh, it's still wasteful, but a good counterargument is that it's not particularly hard to find productive things to do with public money, especially when our roads are already full of holes. Even without this, it can be a net positive if the people doing the work gain skills and experience which are still required even after government work is over.
rocketknight
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This is decidedly more black helicopter-y. Drones peering down on you in your hot tub!
After reading the first line of the quoted text I was about 99% sure this was an Onion article.
Welp.
rocketknight
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MMT endorses a job guarantee even just for digging holes and filling them back in. There's actually a lot of good stuff to read on the topic!
And I don't endorse MMT.
I don't even understand why he would "change" his position in this case. He might be the only Senator that would actually speak in support of a drone killing someone for an armed robbery.
Blergmeister
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Be careful. As I understand it, MMT doesn't specifically endorse this or any particular policy. It just states the relationship between taxes, currency, and the state printing it. A policy of paying people to dig and fill holes is just a left wing policy that is better rationalized when understanding our monetary system under the MMT framework.
ClassyPenguin
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Funny, considering Keynes was being a smartass (he was notorious for that) when he wrote the holes in the ground being effective for unemployment.
"'To dig holes in the ground', paid for out of savings, will increase, not only employment, but the real national dividend of useful goods and services. It is not reasonable, however, that a sensible community should be content to remain dependent on such fortuitous and often wasteful mitigations when once we understand the influences upon which effective demand depends." - From his General Theory
"'To dig holes in the ground', paid for out of savings, will increase, not only employment, but the real national dividend of useful goods and services. It is not reasonable, however, that a sensible community should be content to remain dependent on such fortuitous and often wasteful mitigations when once we understand the influences upon which effective demand depends." - From his General Theory
The filibuster was admirable (although also self-serving, of course) and this idiotic change in his position is not admirable. Those two opinions are pretty easy for me to reconcile.
zero shift
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I can't wait that when Paul loses primary the Paulites claim that he lost due to a CIA covert operations of using national tragedys to turn people away from the libertarian revolution.
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