It depends. Idaho Dems are liberals. West Virginia Dems are not. Utah Dems are liberal. Oklahoma Dems are not.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT| Ask us about our performance with Latinos in Nevada
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It depends. Idaho Dems are liberals. West Virginia Dems are not. Utah Dems are liberal. Oklahoma Dems are not.
theprodigy
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benjipwns
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That's in mid-May, is he still going to be running?
It's also a primary where independents can vote.
Feeling good about my Sanders+12% prediction.
Ignatz Mouse
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Wasn't he up 25 points a week ago?
There have been a handful of folks with Trump masks today along the parade route; this one has to be my favorite.
At this point, my body is composed of two parts king cake, two parts fried food, and one part alcohol. Might need a Red Bull or four if I'm going to stay up tonight..
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RastaMentality
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If Kasich gets near 20% does the establishment self combust?
Lucky Forward
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He must be a Rush Limbaugh fan.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2004/08/05/limbaugh-back-to-labeling-abu-ghraib-prisoner-a/131597
Thequietone
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How big of a tantrum will Trump throw if he gets second place to Kasich? I know the odds are low but it could happen and I doubt he'd take it very well.
Veritigo_X
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Posted in the OT thread, the war against machines has begun and Rubio supporters are leading the fight.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/02/09/marco-rubio-supporters-robot-incident-new-hampshire-primary/
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/02/09/marco-rubio-supporters-robot-incident-new-hampshire-primary/
Joe Shlabotnik
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Trump coming in second to anyone here would be pretty disastrous for him.
RustyNails
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Dude should just start spazzing on the ground and scream error errorPosted in the OT thread, the war against machines has begun and Rubio supporters are leading the fight.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/02/09/marco-rubio-supporters-robot-incident-new-hampshire-primary/
disastermouse
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Not as much debt and not with so few employment opportunities in the past.
I was paying down my art and massage therapy school debts for years, but I worked very low paying jobs and didn't choose well.
My RN school debts were paid quickly (although I have a Michigan-specific Lon I'm still paying because I never worked in Michigan). Then again, it's gotten harder even for new RN school grads to get jobs. Graduates from California usually have to work in another state to get enough experience to go back to the state and work there.
Abinash117
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It is terrible if he couldn't win a demo he needs to win in a place where it is extremely liberal and he had tons of exposure. If in SC he closes the gap to high 30s or lows 40s for minorities, but Hillary ultimately wins. That is still very bad because only in a three days later 10 plus states will vote at the same time and after a few more days later a few more states, it is extremely unlikely that whatever narrative that will be pushed after SC won't effect anything because it is only in a short time that Super Tuesday states and some of the other later states will cast their vote.
titiklabingapat
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I have no access to cable, any one have any good live blogs you guys recommend?
Also, are we doing the Poligaf chat again? Last one was pretty fun!
Also, are we doing the Poligaf chat again? Last one was pretty fun!
OrangeGrayBlue
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As someone originally from WV, I can assure you they almost unanimously blame the EPA and Obama, not capitalism. WV quite possibly has the dumbest state legislature in the entire country as well. They had a water contamination problem that was more widespread than Flint's just a couple years ago and to my knowledge nothing happened. No amount of evidence to the contrary deters them from the merits of deregulation and small govt. They're poised to start drug testing welfare recipients because apparently their state senators take policy cues from memes sent by their aunts. It is infuriating how much my home state is killing itself due to sheer ignorance on what works and what doesn't. They also passed right-to-work bills recently, with one state senator calling union members "free loaders" to their faces.
Veritigo_X
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OrangeGrayBlue
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I would love to be there in a lab coat and goggles with the remote to an RC car, wiggling around the joysticks and pretending I'm controlling him.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Holy shit. Why didn't anyone think of this yet?
Veritigo_X
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Ignatz Mouse
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This is brilliant.
RustyNails
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This is genius level trolling.
haha, I'm going to e-mail the SuperPAC to do this next, maybe put "KOCH" on the back of the lab coat.
QuiteWhittle
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If Trump comes in second then it's doubtful he wins any primary.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Gah I need results.
benjipwns
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Rubio doesn't have Secret Service protection yet.
Sirpopopop
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I'm disappointed in a few college professors (non-tenured) I know who have become Bernie Bros.
Posting regular attacks on Clinton. Ignoring anything anti-Bernie. Talking about how they are "moderate" voters who are best represented by Bernie.
I now understand why they never got tenure.
Posting regular attacks on Clinton. Ignoring anything anti-Bernie. Talking about how they are "moderate" voters who are best represented by Bernie.
I now understand why they never got tenure.
RustyNails
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Lets dispel this notion that Marco needs secret service protection.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
O'Reilly is a sharp guy, he knows his stuff. He just usually makes the wrong conclusions from that information
The winner of the NH primary will be a hard core populist who only recently joined their party. This person will be loved primarily for offering simple soundbites of hilariously unrealistic policy proposals. Their supporters, who are often only marginally attached to politics, will love them for their nonsense. They (the supporters) find it more important that someone tells them what they want to hear than says something realistic. This candidate (the NH primary winner) causes chaos in their new party by dragging the other candidate(s) towards their absurd positions, and will make the general election more challenging for the eventual winner.
disastermouse
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So bitter that I grimaced reading this.
Considering the state's population, and other factors, that wouldn't surprise me.
I know Genysis didn't exactly set the world on fire, but damn, they're really cut down the budget for the sequel.Posted in the OT thread, the war against machines has begun and Rubio supporters are leading the fight.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/02/09/marco-rubio-supporters-robot-incident-new-hampshire-primary/
benjipwns
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It's one of the most representative bodies in the world. Less than 3500 residents per legislator.
They get paid $100 a year.
Ignatz Mouse
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Excellent. And at this rate, he won't.
To be fair, I don't think the Terminator particularly needs Secret Service protection.
Cesare Borgia
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NH primary day.
Being blindsided sucks, and we were definitely blindsided in 08. I remember a lot of people thinking a commanding win, which the polls suggested was possible, would essentially hand us the nomination early and we'd be able to coast to the convention. Personally I never thought that, given the Clinton machine and the various things I had seen from them, but I definitely thought Obama would "probably" be the nominee if he won NH.
However things began to turn as results came in and we noticed we were under performing in multiple districts. Exit poll conversations showed that many voters were upset at how the media had treated Hillary, and some were upset with how Obama had treated her. I think that crying moment became a rallying cry for many women in the state who saw what they perceived as a fellow woman being treated unfairly.
The two biggest personal takeaways I remember from that night and the day after:
1. Veteran leadership matters. The Obama staffs were often quite young but we also had various people who had worked on campaigns decades before some of our people were born. Many of those people had experienced electoral defeats before and were a calming influence for the younger people who thought Obama was simply going to coast to victory.
2. The candidate matters. Obama's speech that night completely changed the narrative for many of us. Yes we had lost, but Obama rallied us back in a way I didn't even think was possible. It's hard to explain. I think that night was one of the defining moments of the campaign. I don't know of many politicians who could have done what Obama did in that speech, or the conversations he had with some staff folks in private afterwards. That was the night where I realized that I'd do just about anything for him.
Being blindsided sucks, and we were definitely blindsided in 08. I remember a lot of people thinking a commanding win, which the polls suggested was possible, would essentially hand us the nomination early and we'd be able to coast to the convention. Personally I never thought that, given the Clinton machine and the various things I had seen from them, but I definitely thought Obama would "probably" be the nominee if he won NH.
However things began to turn as results came in and we noticed we were under performing in multiple districts. Exit poll conversations showed that many voters were upset at how the media had treated Hillary, and some were upset with how Obama had treated her. I think that crying moment became a rallying cry for many women in the state who saw what they perceived as a fellow woman being treated unfairly.
The two biggest personal takeaways I remember from that night and the day after:
1. Veteran leadership matters. The Obama staffs were often quite young but we also had various people who had worked on campaigns decades before some of our people were born. Many of those people had experienced electoral defeats before and were a calming influence for the younger people who thought Obama was simply going to coast to victory.
2. The candidate matters. Obama's speech that night completely changed the narrative for many of us. Yes we had lost, but Obama rallied us back in a way I didn't even think was possible. It's hard to explain. I think that night was one of the defining moments of the campaign. I don't know of many politicians who could have done what Obama did in that speech, or the conversations he had with some staff folks in private afterwards. That was the night where I realized that I'd do just about anything for him.
The Technomancer
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Is there gong to be a primary thread or are we not bothering?
Sirpopopop
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I'm sorry that I'm disappointed that people who should know better are resorting to low grade silly attacks like, "Hillary is a corporate tool!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!"
1. Working with corporations doesn't make you inherently evil.
2. The one released text from a Hillary speech with Goldman Sachs was with regards to exhorting Goldman to help finance more women in business.
3. Nothing wrong with accepting money to give a speech. It's easy money, why not take it?
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